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    Dalek Dave
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    Putting your money where your mouth is[^] I object to the word 'Probably'. But it will cause an absolute flame war, so good! Here are the donations so far[^]. All within about 3 hours!

    ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

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      Putting your money where your mouth is[^] I object to the word 'Probably'. But it will cause an absolute flame war, so good! Here are the donations so far[^]. All within about 3 hours!

      ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      Excellent; though 'twould be beter if they removed the 'probably': that is a little wimpish. Thank god I'm an atheist.

      me, me, me

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        Putting your money where your mouth is[^] I object to the word 'Probably'. But it will cause an absolute flame war, so good! Here are the donations so far[^]. All within about 3 hours!

        ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

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        Sathesh Sakthivel
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        Good One.

        Sathesh. Blessed is the season which engages the whole world in a conspiracy of love.

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          Putting your money where your mouth is[^] I object to the word 'Probably'. But it will cause an absolute flame war, so good! Here are the donations so far[^]. All within about 3 hours!

          ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

          modified on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:05 AM

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          This one could have been said just for the SB "This campaign to put alternative slogans on London buses will make people think – and thinking is anathema to religion." Some of his points are excellent ie religion expecting and getting a free ride etc.... Dave - have another 5

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            Putting your money where your mouth is[^] I object to the word 'Probably'. But it will cause an absolute flame war, so good! Here are the donations so far[^]. All within about 3 hours!

            ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

            modified on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:05 AM

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            hairy_hats
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            Bring on the busty tooth fairies!

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              Putting your money where your mouth is[^] I object to the word 'Probably'. But it will cause an absolute flame war, so good! Here are the donations so far[^]. All within about 3 hours!

              ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

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              Matthew Faithfull
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              The 'egregious proffessor for the public misunderstanding of science' Richard Dawkins is an idiot interfering in things he knows little and understands nothing about. All this campaign will achieve is to publicize that fact to a larger number of people and bring science as a whole into disrepute as a result.

              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                Bring on the busty tooth fairies!

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                Dalek Dave
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                In suspenders and stockings. You noticed then.

                ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

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                • M Matthew Faithfull

                  The 'egregious proffessor for the public misunderstanding of science' Richard Dawkins is an idiot interfering in things he knows little and understands nothing about. All this campaign will achieve is to publicize that fact to a larger number of people and bring science as a whole into disrepute as a result.

                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  I suspect he knows how to spell 'Professor'. He is asking people to think, and you disagree with this? Hmmm Worrying.

                  ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

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                    The 'egregious proffessor for the public misunderstanding of science' Richard Dawkins is an idiot interfering in things he knows little and understands nothing about. All this campaign will achieve is to publicize that fact to a larger number of people and bring science as a whole into disrepute as a result.

                    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    Here you go again. You're right. We're all wrong.

                    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                    interfering in things he knows little and understands nothing about

                    Yes, of course. How silly of him.

                    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                    bring science as a whole into disrepute

                    This is laughable. That is the best you can come up with? For a man of (according to your own publicity) science you really don't come across as a man of reason.

                    me, me, me

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                      Here you go again. You're right. We're all wrong.

                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                      interfering in things he knows little and understands nothing about

                      Yes, of course. How silly of him.

                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                      bring science as a whole into disrepute

                      This is laughable. That is the best you can come up with? For a man of (according to your own publicity) science you really don't come across as a man of reason.

                      me, me, me

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Of course he has a basic problem with science, he is Faithfull! :)

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                        I suspect he knows how to spell 'Professor'. He is asking people to think, and you disagree with this? Hmmm Worrying.

                        ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

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                        Matthew Faithfull
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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        I suspect he knows how to spell 'Professor'.

                        Probably. I'm sure he employs a good typist too.

                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        He is asking people to think, and you disagree with this?

                        No, thinking is good, but that's not what he asking for. He's trying to define thinking as his narrow version of 'scientific' thinking based on unacknowledged and therefore unchallengable assumptions. Anything else then gets classified as other than thinking. This is not science it is raw ideological tyrany of exactly the kind he falsely accuses 'religion' of demanding. Despite the fact that his accusation is both too vague and too irrational in itself to even bother arguing with. Hence why I say the man is an idiot, he contradicts his own 'argument' by his approach, his statements and his actions.

                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                          Putting your money where your mouth is[^] I object to the word 'Probably'. But it will cause an absolute flame war, so good! Here are the donations so far[^]. All within about 3 hours!

                          ------------------------------------ "October: This is one of the peculiarly dangerous months to speculate in stocks in." - Mark Twain

                          modified on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:05 AM

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                          KaRl
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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          I object to the word 'Probably'.

                          Can you prove there is no God or is it just a belief?

                          When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                          Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            I object to the word 'Probably'.

                            Can you prove there is no God or is it just a belief?

                            When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                            Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            It is impossible to prove a negative. And since atheists do not require a god to explain the universe, they merely observe and learn, they do not require a god to be believed in. Only people who lack the ability to think for themselves need a god to do the explaining for them. It is enough to believe that a garden is beautiful, without believing there are fairies at the bottom of it!

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                              Here you go again. You're right. We're all wrong.

                              Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                              interfering in things he knows little and understands nothing about

                              Yes, of course. How silly of him.

                              Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                              bring science as a whole into disrepute

                              This is laughable. That is the best you can come up with? For a man of (according to your own publicity) science you really don't come across as a man of reason.

                              me, me, me

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                              Matthew Faithfull
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                              I said nothing about me being right. He is attacking 'religion' which, as we've discussed many times here, is an empty and meaningless definition used by the ignorant to classify lots of different things they don't want to know or undertstand as one thing they can dismiss and ignore because it is internally inconsistent, they having made it so by a stupidly broad definition.

                              digital man wrote:

                              This is laughable.

                              No, it is a serious matter, the man is menace, not to 'religion' but to the science he claims to represent.

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                              according to your own publicity

                              My publicity certainly says no such thing. I am an artist first a politician second and a scientist only by training. As to reason mine is undoubtedly imperfect but the egregious professor escaped from reason altogether a long time ago.

                              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                It is impossible to prove a negative. And since atheists do not require a god to explain the universe, they merely observe and learn, they do not require a god to be believed in. Only people who lack the ability to think for themselves need a god to do the explaining for them. It is enough to believe that a garden is beautiful, without believing there are fairies at the bottom of it!

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                                hairy_hats
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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                It is enough to believe that a garden is beautiful, without believing there are fairies at the bottom of it!

                                Well put. 5.

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                                  Of course he has a basic problem with science, he is Faithfull! :)

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                                  Matthew Faithfull
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                                  A nice one liner but it betrays a basic misunderstanding shared with the idiot professor, that their is a contradiction between faith and science. There is none and although faith would remain faith without the practice of the scientific method, being a more fundamental and primary part of life, the reverse is not true.

                                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                    It is impossible to prove a negative. And since atheists do not require a god to explain the universe, they merely observe and learn, they do not require a god to be believed in. Only people who lack the ability to think for themselves need a god to do the explaining for them. It is enough to believe that a garden is beautiful, without believing there are fairies at the bottom of it!

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                                    Matthew Faithfull
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    It is impossible to prove a negative.

                                    Although the professor claims to have done so. How else can he 'know' that there is no God as repeatedly and publically claims. Since God does not require atheists to maintian the universe, he merely loves them and preserves them, he is not required to go on doing so indefinitely and will one day give them what they want, a place without God, this is hell. Only people who lack the ability to believe need God to give them them the gift of faith. This is everyone. It is enough to believe that God has died for us in the person of his son Jesus, without believing that we can fully comprehend this statement or its implications.

                                    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      I object to the word 'Probably'.

                                      Can you prove there is no God or is it just a belief?

                                      When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                                      Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                      73Zeppelin
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                                      Ka?l wrote:

                                      Can you prove there is no God or is it just a belief?

                                      That's a non-argument. The onus of proof isn't on those who don't believe, it's on those that do. If you want to invoke the concept of 'god', then it's up to you to prove his existence, it's not up to others to demonstrate his non-existence.

                                      "If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank."

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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        It is impossible to prove a negative.

                                        Although the professor claims to have done so. How else can he 'know' that there is no God as repeatedly and publically claims. Since God does not require atheists to maintian the universe, he merely loves them and preserves them, he is not required to go on doing so indefinitely and will one day give them what they want, a place without God, this is hell. Only people who lack the ability to believe need God to give them them the gift of faith. This is everyone. It is enough to believe that God has died for us in the person of his son Jesus, without believing that we can fully comprehend this statement or its implications.

                                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                        Dalek Dave
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                                        Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                        It is enough to believe that God has died for us in the person of his son Jesus, without believing that we can fully comprehend this statement or its implications

                                        Tell that to the Jews and Muslims, or Pagans and Hindus, or the Buddhists and Jains etc add nauseum, they cannot all be right if there IS a god. However all atheists are right if there isn't.

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                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          It is impossible to prove a negative.

                                          Although the professor claims to have done so. How else can he 'know' that there is no God as repeatedly and publically claims. Since God does not require atheists to maintian the universe, he merely loves them and preserves them, he is not required to go on doing so indefinitely and will one day give them what they want, a place without God, this is hell. Only people who lack the ability to believe need God to give them them the gift of faith. This is everyone. It is enough to believe that God has died for us in the person of his son Jesus, without believing that we can fully comprehend this statement or its implications.

                                          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                          73Zeppelin
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                                          Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                          Since God does not require atheists to maintian the universe, he merely loves them and preserves them, he is not required to go on doing so indefinitely and will one day give them what they want, a place without God, this is hell. Only people who lack the ability to believe need God to give them them the gift of faith. This is everyone. It is enough to believe that God has died for us in the person of his son Jesus, without believing that we can fully comprehend this statement or its implications.

                                          Not one ounce of truth contained in any of that. Purely personal opinion and therefore readily and easily dismissed.

                                          "If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank."

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