The end of an era - Windows 3.x
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Its hard to believe that it is still widely used but its the end for Windows 3.x[^]. Anyone have any fond memories?
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Its hard to believe that it is still widely used but its the end for Windows 3.x[^]. Anyone have any fond memories?
Yes, many fond memories. In some ways it's the best OS I've ever had. In others it was scarily poor. I still have a Windows 3.11 virtual machine with a lot of my old stuff on and yes it's sort of internet capable with I.E 5 and SVGA drivers. Unfortunately Microsoft VMs audio support is pathetic to non existent so none of the old audio stuff works. Borland C++ 0.99 for DOS is still as stonking as it ever was and the desktop even in its raw form is still better than Open Solaris 18 years on :-D
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Its hard to believe that it is still widely used but its the end for Windows 3.x[^]. Anyone have any fond memories?
My first computer was a 386 with Win 3.1. Fond memories... hmm... typing win.com to start Windows after POST reading and learning "Win 3.1 in 10 minutes lessons" Paintbrush (today Paint) Write (today Wordpad) a lot of silly games, some of which I was never capabale of winning. Nice years...
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Yes, many fond memories. In some ways it's the best OS I've ever had. In others it was scarily poor. I still have a Windows 3.11 virtual machine with a lot of my old stuff on and yes it's sort of internet capable with I.E 5 and SVGA drivers. Unfortunately Microsoft VMs audio support is pathetic to non existent so none of the old audio stuff works. Borland C++ 0.99 for DOS is still as stonking as it ever was and the desktop even in its raw form is still better than Open Solaris 18 years on :-D
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Apparently it's possible to run win3.11 with sound under Dosbox - Clicky[^]
Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
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Apparently it's possible to run win3.11 with sound under Dosbox - Clicky[^]
Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
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Its hard to believe that it is still widely used but its the end for Windows 3.x[^]. Anyone have any fond memories?
:(( so so sad, I cut my teeth on Quick C for Windows on 3.0.
Software Kinetics - Moving software
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Its hard to believe that it is still widely used but its the end for Windows 3.x[^]. Anyone have any fond memories?
whatUrunning.com wrote:
Anyone have any fond memories?
Absolutely. It was the beginning of the GUI OS for me. Before that it was all DOS and command lines.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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Yes, many fond memories. In some ways it's the best OS I've ever had. In others it was scarily poor. I still have a Windows 3.11 virtual machine with a lot of my old stuff on and yes it's sort of internet capable with I.E 5 and SVGA drivers. Unfortunately Microsoft VMs audio support is pathetic to non existent so none of the old audio stuff works. Borland C++ 0.99 for DOS is still as stonking as it ever was and the desktop even in its raw form is still better than Open Solaris 18 years on :-D
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
What? Imho back in the days of Win 3.1, the AmigaOS was *way* ahead. The only thing I liked about windows back then was better integration of applications through OLE really.
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What? Imho back in the days of Win 3.1, the AmigaOS was *way* ahead. The only thing I liked about windows back then was better integration of applications through OLE really.
In its raw form, yes, I'd say AmigaOS was better from the bits I played with on friends systems. What I liked about Windows 3.11 was the way it could be customized by 3rd party often free or very cheap software. I've posted here before about the highly customized panning desktop, Motif style pinable menus and voice controlled window manipulation that I had set up so I won't go into it but suffice to say that such things have never been available, cheap or free, and able to integrate with one another and with most applications since Windows 3.11. As the OS has become more sophisticated it has inevitably placed more restrictive requirements on applications, stopped them modifying or extending one another and limited the depth and breadth of user customization. This is not a bad thing in the pursuit of standardization and reliability but it does mean that tinkerers like me can no longer tweak together a really incredible software system on a tight budget in the Windows world. Hence why many I suppose have gone over to Linux but that is another issue.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Its hard to believe that it is still widely used but its the end for Windows 3.x[^]. Anyone have any fond memories?
whatUrunning.com wrote:
Anyone have any fond memories?
Lots of memories, none of them "fond." But it did take the PC from "useless geek toy" to useful ubiquitous appliance, and create most of our jobs. :-D
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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In its raw form, yes, I'd say AmigaOS was better from the bits I played with on friends systems. What I liked about Windows 3.11 was the way it could be customized by 3rd party often free or very cheap software. I've posted here before about the highly customized panning desktop, Motif style pinable menus and voice controlled window manipulation that I had set up so I won't go into it but suffice to say that such things have never been available, cheap or free, and able to integrate with one another and with most applications since Windows 3.11. As the OS has become more sophisticated it has inevitably placed more restrictive requirements on applications, stopped them modifying or extending one another and limited the depth and breadth of user customization. This is not a bad thing in the pursuit of standardization and reliability but it does mean that tinkerers like me can no longer tweak together a really incredible software system on a tight budget in the Windows world. Hence why many I suppose have gone over to Linux but that is another issue.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Actually I remember on Win 3.1 using a shell replacement for program manager, think it was called wayfarer, or something similar to that. On the amiga I had some pretty good 3rd party add-ons (mostly freeware). One that I remember was called MultiUser which added support for NTFS style multi-user permissions (I think it used its own filesystem that it included drivers for but can't remember). There were also drivers to accept other filesystems such as MS-DOS formatted disks etc.
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Actually I remember on Win 3.1 using a shell replacement for program manager, think it was called wayfarer, or something similar to that. On the amiga I had some pretty good 3rd party add-ons (mostly freeware). One that I remember was called MultiUser which added support for NTFS style multi-user permissions (I think it used its own filesystem that it included drivers for but can't remember). There were also drivers to accept other filesystems such as MS-DOS formatted disks etc.
There was certainly an active community of developers for the Amiga and much good stuff being done. Floppy disks used to get passed around faster than STDs. I suppose the difference was I went off to university with my PC and suddenly had access to the internet when 99% of people had never heard of it. Within a year to 18 months I could take my pick of 300GB of Windows software from the SunSite archive in London. I spent many happy hours filtering out the dross and making the best bits work together nicely. It's the world we all live in now but back in the days when my friends had Amiga's it was beyond most peoples dreams. 300,000 floppy disks, accessed over the phone, you're 'aving a girraffe :-D
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Its hard to believe that it is still widely used but its the end for Windows 3.x[^]. Anyone have any fond memories?
I only switched from Win3.11 to Win98se because I wanted to use Photoshop (that may have been in 2001 or so). What I didn't like about Win98 was that although it could boot to the command line, it wouldn't load drivers (mouse, sound, CDrom, etc.) until it loaded the GUI, that's just plain wrong. I use XP now only because that's what we use at work.
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There was certainly an active community of developers for the Amiga and much good stuff being done. Floppy disks used to get passed around faster than STDs. I suppose the difference was I went off to university with my PC and suddenly had access to the internet when 99% of people had never heard of it. Within a year to 18 months I could take my pick of 300GB of Windows software from the SunSite archive in London. I spent many happy hours filtering out the dross and making the best bits work together nicely. It's the world we all live in now but back in the days when my friends had Amiga's it was beyond most peoples dreams. 300,000 floppy disks, accessed over the phone, you're 'aving a girraffe :-D
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
lol yeah thats true, there certainly was a wide range of software available that ran under windows/dos. I had a PC emulator for my amigas, though it never really got any use on my 7MHz A500 or 14MHz A1200 ;P
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My first computer was a 386 with Win 3.1. Fond memories... hmm... typing win.com to start Windows after POST reading and learning "Win 3.1 in 10 minutes lessons" Paintbrush (today Paint) Write (today Wordpad) a lot of silly games, some of which I was never capabale of winning. Nice years...
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blackjack2150 wrote:
Write (today Wordpad)
No way! Windows Write was a very cool app, with full support for OLE, TTF, etc, and a very nice, simple gui. Wordpad is amateurish crap, by comparison. It's a great injustice that the Write.exe that's bundled with later versions of Windows is no more than an executable version of a shortcut to Wordpad. I used Write all the time, at one point, because Word 2 didn't go any too quick on a 286 (type a letter, wait two seconds -- NO! For God's sake, don't click the scrollbar!!!)