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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    hehe. At least you are a VB programmer with balls! ;) Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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    Ray Cassick
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    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: At least you are a VB programmer with balls! Thanks! (I think :) ) I might be able to put down C# some day but I don't know it well enough yet to say that it is my favorite.

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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      Scheme? Is it this paranthesis festival in mid-august? I must admit, it has something. However, when it's about gettign a job done, I rather command than argue. (i.e. if I prefer the "do this do that" model, rather than "X is Y and Z") C++, definitely. Home is where C++ is. C#: I especially admire that MS did (again) something for the "masses", not some ivory tower revolution. Pascal: If I'm at home at C++, Pascal is where I've grown up. Ah those memories....


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        Prolog, man! Okay, just kidding. C++ is my favorite. (scheme(has(too(many(parentheses))))) I do like Perl for the occasional odd task or for Web stuff. I hear good things about PHP and Python, but have never used either. There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

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        Prolog is cool. Ryan Johnston

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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          Christopher Duncan
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          C++ (Visual or otherwise) JAFL Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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            Nick Jacobs
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            I like C++ now. When I was a student, I use to like one called ICON. It was a great string processing language. I kinda like C# but then again, I never did learn java or anything like that. Nick

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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              Paul Riley
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              You guys are all sadistic. Okay, I admit that C++ is essential at times. And I understand the fact that C++ (and even moreso assembler languages) are like the programming equivalent of extreme sports (doing things the hard way just to prove that you can). But how can anyone claim that C++ is their favourite language? All that vile string handling and taking two days to write a simple dialog (remember... MFC is cheating, even if it isn't all that much easier). VB for GUIs, C++ / ATL for any real work. Borland did a reasonable job of combining the two with BCB. C# is looking like a good contender but I haven't REALLY pushed it yet, so I'm reserving judgement. Paul

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                Prolog is cool. Ryan Johnston

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                Navin
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                I like the concept of a logic-based language. IT could get you in trouble though. The only time I've used Prolog was in a programming language course back in my college days. I can barely remember the syntax. You could write a very simple program that would sort a list of numbers, by asserting that a particular list was in order. The problem was, it would try every permutation of that list of numbers until it found one that satisifed that condition (was sorted.) So you ended up having an O(n!) sorting algorithm! We later learned other ways of doing it. :-O There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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                  Alvaro Mendez
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                  1. C++ 2. JavaScript 3. Java (and probably C#) C++ has tons of features -- it's hard outgrow it. Templates, default parameters, multiple inheritance, preprocessor macros, stack allocation of objects, operator overloading, direct access to native APIs, etc. JavaScript has the C syntax and adds it's own set of unique features. I like being able to add functions or properties to a class on the fly. Java also maintains the C syntax but keeps things type-safe and simple. A couple of features I love about it are inner classes and the ability to override a method without causing other overloaded methods to be hidden, like in C++. Also, when it comes to portability, Java is nice. Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

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                  • P Paul Riley

                    You guys are all sadistic. Okay, I admit that C++ is essential at times. And I understand the fact that C++ (and even moreso assembler languages) are like the programming equivalent of extreme sports (doing things the hard way just to prove that you can). But how can anyone claim that C++ is their favourite language? All that vile string handling and taking two days to write a simple dialog (remember... MFC is cheating, even if it isn't all that much easier). VB for GUIs, C++ / ATL for any real work. Borland did a reasonable job of combining the two with BCB. C# is looking like a good contender but I haven't REALLY pushed it yet, so I'm reserving judgement. Paul

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    pdriley wrote: All that vile string handling and taking two days to write a simple dialog Um gee, that's a cookie-cutter excuse if I ever heard one. Fact is, I rarely use MFC for my Win32 coding, and I can put together a dialog-based app in no time. Oh wait, it gets better, I actually save my code to reuse, so I can throw one together in a few minutes. That's because I know what I am doing instead of looking at it only to realize it involves too much thinking. Gee, something so simple as subclassing seems so cryptic to most VBers - not to mention VB crashes all too often when doing that. When it's all said and done, I still have more control over my program. Oh, and if you do end up using a lot of raw Win32 API in VB, not only is it a pain in the butt to deal with all the declarations, but it still becomes just as arduous (as you say) as C. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger

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                    • P Paul Riley

                      You guys are all sadistic. Okay, I admit that C++ is essential at times. And I understand the fact that C++ (and even moreso assembler languages) are like the programming equivalent of extreme sports (doing things the hard way just to prove that you can). But how can anyone claim that C++ is their favourite language? All that vile string handling and taking two days to write a simple dialog (remember... MFC is cheating, even if it isn't all that much easier). VB for GUIs, C++ / ATL for any real work. Borland did a reasonable job of combining the two with BCB. C# is looking like a good contender but I haven't REALLY pushed it yet, so I'm reserving judgement. Paul

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                      Ryan Johnston 0
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                      pdriley wrote: You guys are all sadistic. I believe you meant to say that we are all masocistic (which indicates that we enjoy hurting ourselves, whereas sadistic indicates we enjoy hurting others). pdriley wrote: (doing things the hard way just to prove that you can). I actually see it more like doing it the right way, rather than the hard way. To me, C++ is much more elegant than VB. If you want a rapid development environment, I'd say to use C#. VB is so dirty. pdriley wrote: taking two days to write a simple dialog Try to make a complex one in VB and see how long it takes you. I guess VB is great for cookie cutter design, but C++ gives you a lot more control. Ryan Johnston

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                        I like the concept of a logic-based language. IT could get you in trouble though. The only time I've used Prolog was in a programming language course back in my college days. I can barely remember the syntax. You could write a very simple program that would sort a list of numbers, by asserting that a particular list was in order. The problem was, it would try every permutation of that list of numbers until it found one that satisifed that condition (was sorted.) So you ended up having an O(n!) sorting algorithm! We later learned other ways of doing it. :-O There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

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                        Navin wrote: like the concept of a logic-based language I like the concept too, but I could never see using it for anything. Ryan Johnston

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                        • P Paul Riley

                          You guys are all sadistic. Okay, I admit that C++ is essential at times. And I understand the fact that C++ (and even moreso assembler languages) are like the programming equivalent of extreme sports (doing things the hard way just to prove that you can). But how can anyone claim that C++ is their favourite language? All that vile string handling and taking two days to write a simple dialog (remember... MFC is cheating, even if it isn't all that much easier). VB for GUIs, C++ / ATL for any real work. Borland did a reasonable job of combining the two with BCB. C# is looking like a good contender but I haven't REALLY pushed it yet, so I'm reserving judgement. Paul

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          pdriley wrote: All that vile string handling and taking two days to write a simple dialog What about us who don't "write dialogs"? ;P It would be insane to use VB for a server side application (unless you use COM+ or something). :beer:

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: It would be insane to use VB for a server side application No kidding, I personally think that UI design is the lamest thing you can do in computer programming. I hate windows programming. The fun stuff is at a much lower level. Ryan Johnston

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
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                            Ryan Johnston wrote: No kidding, I personally think that UI design is the lamest thing you can do in computer programming Ditto. :beer:

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                              pdriley wrote: All that vile string handling and taking two days to write a simple dialog What about us who don't "write dialogs"? ;P It would be insane to use VB for a server side application (unless you use COM+ or something). :beer:

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                              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: It would be insane to use VB for a server side application No kidding, I personally think that UI design is the lamest thing you can do in computer programming. I hate windows programming. The fun stuff is at a much lower level. Ryan Johnston

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                              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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                                C++ most hated: LISP - Lots of Inutile Stupid Parentheses Concussus surgo. When struck I rise.

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                                  Ryan Johnston wrote: No kidding, I personally think that UI design is the lamest thing you can do in computer programming Ditto. :beer:

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  No way! I find it really rewarding when someone can look at my program and intuitively figure out how it works because I've designed a good UI. And besides, being a consultant, there isn't anyone I can share my code with and have them ooh and ahh (or maybe barf and puke). The UI is where the fun stuff is, because that's where the "social" aspect of programming comes in--it's how people "talk" with the program. Marc

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                                    COBOL and PL/I :eek::eek: just kidding... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter

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                                    Neville Franks
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                                    I rememeber the days when I was using the Digital Research PL/I compiler on CP/M. Life was sooo much simpler then.;) Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com

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                                      No way! I find it really rewarding when someone can look at my program and intuitively figure out how it works because I've designed a good UI. And besides, being a consultant, there isn't anyone I can share my code with and have them ooh and ahh (or maybe barf and puke). The UI is where the fun stuff is, because that's where the "social" aspect of programming comes in--it's how people "talk" with the program. Marc

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                                      Ryan Johnston 0
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                                      Marc Clifton wrote: because I've designed a good UI Yeah, but it isn't that technically chalenging. It is mostly an exercise in good human interaction design (which I'm not saying is any easier). I personally find that completely boring. On top of that, it is so subjective. There is no right answer. No matter how much work you put into it, it could always be better. I find that lower level stuff is not only more technically chalenging, but it allows me to be really creative. If you make a "creative" UI, most people will hate it because it is different, and consequently harder to use. I would hate to have my design be limited to what a user expects to see. Where is the inovation in that? On the other hand, if I can come up with an entirely new system for managing data, or a new network protocol, or a new windows framework (I hate UI design, but I would love to design something like MFC), or something like that, I really have a chance at a new solution. That is where the fun stuff is. At least that is why I am a programmer. Ryan Johnston

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                                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                        I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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                                        David Wulff
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                                        What does it matter which language is your favourite so long as you can code with it in Dreamweaver? :rolleyes:


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                                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                          I can't decide between Scheme and C++. Scheme is very clean and simple - elegant IMHO. C++ on the other hand is very complete and powerful. What's your favorite programming language? Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          Let me think.... :P Naturally, it's C++. I HATE vbscript, and I am still not convinced about C#, mainly because of all the fundamental stuff it is missing. I can deal with small doses of jscript, if I've had an otherwise good day. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002

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