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  • C CaptainSeeSarp

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/546[^]

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    Christian Graus
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    You are an ignorant dickhead. You keep posting these links, but the responses you get show that the community here doesn't believe this stuff, and your inability to discuss the views presented, shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views. If you have a view of your own, defend it. If you don't, shut up and go away.

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    • O Oakman

      Maximilien wrote:

      you're a very disturbed individual.

      He's a shit-encrusted hemorrhoid protruding from the ass of CP.

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      :laugh::laugh::laugh:

      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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      • C Christian Graus

        You are an ignorant dickhead. You keep posting these links, but the responses you get show that the community here doesn't believe this stuff, and your inability to discuss the views presented, shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views. If you have a view of your own, defend it. If you don't, shut up and go away.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        Paul Conrad
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        He's just being an Ilion copy cat. How boring.

        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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          He's just being an Ilion copy cat. How boring.

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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          Christian Graus
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          Yes, he pretty much is, right now.

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          • C Christian Graus

            You are an ignorant dickhead. You keep posting these links, but the responses you get show that the community here doesn't believe this stuff, and your inability to discuss the views presented, shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views. If you have a view of your own, defend it. If you don't, shut up and go away.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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            CaptainSeeSarp
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            You are an ignorant dickhead.

            My attitude may be blunt on issues like this but you know I am not ignorant.

            Christian Graus wrote:

            shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views

            There is a lot in this that seems accurate considering we have know idea what having power feels like. You probably have a sense of control and some power over situations, you don't know what real power feels like. It is these organizations that gained most of its power though the banking system that they lobbied for which allows them to fund political lobbyists and political candidates. They want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people. They simplify things by organizing all the nations with layers of authorities. At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

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            • C CaptainSeeSarp

              Christian Graus wrote:

              You are an ignorant dickhead.

              My attitude may be blunt on issues like this but you know I am not ignorant.

              Christian Graus wrote:

              shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views

              There is a lot in this that seems accurate considering we have know idea what having power feels like. You probably have a sense of control and some power over situations, you don't know what real power feels like. It is these organizations that gained most of its power though the banking system that they lobbied for which allows them to fund political lobbyists and political candidates. They want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people. They simplify things by organizing all the nations with layers of authorities. At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

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              CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

              They want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people. They simplify things by organizing all the nations with layers of authorities. At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

              The New World Order and One World Government. You guys should thank your lucky stars you still have the right to bear arms and stand up to this oppression. This[^] is a really good resource

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              • C CaptainSeeSarp

                Christian Graus wrote:

                You are an ignorant dickhead.

                My attitude may be blunt on issues like this but you know I am not ignorant.

                Christian Graus wrote:

                shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views

                There is a lot in this that seems accurate considering we have know idea what having power feels like. You probably have a sense of control and some power over situations, you don't know what real power feels like. It is these organizations that gained most of its power though the banking system that they lobbied for which allows them to fund political lobbyists and political candidates. They want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people. They simplify things by organizing all the nations with layers of authorities. At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

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                Oakman
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                CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                you know I am not ignorant

                The ability to plagiarise Wikipedia does not make you knowledgeable, just contemptible.

                CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                considering we have know idea

                The inability to spell "no" pretty much determined just how ignorant you are, dropout.

                CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

                Is that supposed to be in English?

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                • C Christian Graus

                  You are an ignorant dickhead. You keep posting these links, but the responses you get show that the community here doesn't believe this stuff, and your inability to discuss the views presented, shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views. If you have a view of your own, defend it. If you don't, shut up and go away.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                  Stan Shannon
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                  But the blind acceptance of Obama by such a hugh number of people regardless of the undeniably anti-american radicalism of his past associations is what is really troublesome. The people who are trully "allowing other people to define their opinions and their views" are those who refuse to consider any possibility at all that this man is not what his image machine has created as an obvious facade.

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    You are an ignorant dickhead.

                    My attitude may be blunt on issues like this but you know I am not ignorant.

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    shows that you're just another mindless person allowing other people to define their opinions and their views

                    There is a lot in this that seems accurate considering we have know idea what having power feels like. You probably have a sense of control and some power over situations, you don't know what real power feels like. It is these organizations that gained most of its power though the banking system that they lobbied for which allows them to fund political lobbyists and political candidates. They want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people. They simplify things by organizing all the nations with layers of authorities. At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                    but you know I am not ignorant.

                    Do I ? It seems to me like you accept whatever drivel crosses your path. I don't care what crackpot theories you subscribe to, this IS the soapbox, but you need to be willing to discuss and defend your views, not just posting links.

                    CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                    . You probably have a sense of control and some power over situations, you don't know what real power feels like.

                    Yeah, you're right, I don't have any idea what it feels like to have the sort of power the president does.

                    CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                    hey want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people.

                    How do you know this to be true ?

                    CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                    At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

                    Why do they want this, how does it affect me and you, and how do you know this is true ? You know the real reason people claim this stuff ? It's because they misunderstand the book of Revelation and try to find what they think it says, out in the real world, so they can foretell the soon end of our society.

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                      But the blind acceptance of Obama by such a hugh number of people regardless of the undeniably anti-american radicalism of his past associations is what is really troublesome. The people who are trully "allowing other people to define their opinions and their views" are those who refuse to consider any possibility at all that this man is not what his image machine has created as an obvious facade.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      The people who are trully "allowing other people to define their opinions and their views" are those who refuse to consider any possibility at all that this man is not what his image machine has created as an obvious facade.

                      Not to mention those who refuse to consider any possibility at all that Governor Palin is not what her image machine created as an obvious facade. It's called charisma, Stan. Deal with it.

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                        But the blind acceptance of Obama by such a hugh number of people regardless of the undeniably anti-american radicalism of his past associations is what is really troublesome. The people who are trully "allowing other people to define their opinions and their views" are those who refuse to consider any possibility at all that this man is not what his image machine has created as an obvious facade.

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Well, here's the truth. Most people don't have two brain cells to rub together and will accept whatever slick marketting tells them to believe. And, the other truth is that people like CSS make your views seem almost mainstream, while simultaneously ensuring that ANY sort of ciriticm is easily deflected by lumping it in with his wacko conspiracy theories. So, no matter which way you look at it, you're screwed. I personally think that you overstate the 'radicalism of his past associations' and the assumption that he's not allowed to have formed opinions less radical than the most radical elements in his past.

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                          but you know I am not ignorant.

                          Do I ? It seems to me like you accept whatever drivel crosses your path. I don't care what crackpot theories you subscribe to, this IS the soapbox, but you need to be willing to discuss and defend your views, not just posting links.

                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                          . You probably have a sense of control and some power over situations, you don't know what real power feels like.

                          Yeah, you're right, I don't have any idea what it feels like to have the sort of power the president does.

                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                          hey want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people.

                          How do you know this to be true ?

                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                          At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

                          Why do they want this, how does it affect me and you, and how do you know this is true ? You know the real reason people claim this stuff ? It's because they misunderstand the book of Revelation and try to find what they think it says, out in the real world, so they can foretell the soon end of our society.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                          Oakman
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          you need to be willing to discuss and defend your views

                          He's also really good an unavoting you.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            you need to be willing to discuss and defend your views

                            He's also really good an unavoting you.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            Christian Graus
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                            Yeah, coz that really hurts. What I don't get is, does he actually think he's presented or defended his views here ?

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                              CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                              but you know I am not ignorant.

                              Do I ? It seems to me like you accept whatever drivel crosses your path. I don't care what crackpot theories you subscribe to, this IS the soapbox, but you need to be willing to discuss and defend your views, not just posting links.

                              CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                              . You probably have a sense of control and some power over situations, you don't know what real power feels like.

                              Yeah, you're right, I don't have any idea what it feels like to have the sort of power the president does.

                              CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                              hey want to globalize all nations by grouping them into superstates (UN, EU) which then groups into the topmost layer which is under control by a very small group of elite people.

                              How do you know this to be true ?

                              CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                              At the top most layer they can control broad worldwide control.

                              Why do they want this, how does it affect me and you, and how do you know this is true ? You know the real reason people claim this stuff ? It's because they misunderstand the book of Revelation and try to find what they think it says, out in the real world, so they can foretell the soon end of our society.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                              CaptainSeeSarp
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Yeah, you're right, I don't have any idea what it feels like to have the sort of power the president does.

                              So you agree that once you have real power that it will do some very damaging things to the persons psychology, creating a mindset dominated by having vast control and wealth.

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              How do you know this to be true ?

                              Everything is right under your nose you just have to open your mind. Its right their in front of your eyes, but its disguised through using television and other media to alter and sustain everyone's mindset. Notice how the media doesn't report on real issued that effect people or there is inadequate coverage on important issues.

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Why do they want this, how does it affect me and you, and how do you know this is true ?

                              That is the ultimate goal one could achieve in life. Think of what they feel every second they are alive when they know how much power and wealth they possess. Its a simple concept really, very achievable.

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                                Well, here's the truth. Most people don't have two brain cells to rub together and will accept whatever slick marketting tells them to believe. And, the other truth is that people like CSS make your views seem almost mainstream, while simultaneously ensuring that ANY sort of ciriticm is easily deflected by lumping it in with his wacko conspiracy theories. So, no matter which way you look at it, you're screwed. I personally think that you overstate the 'radicalism of his past associations' and the assumption that he's not allowed to have formed opinions less radical than the most radical elements in his past.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                CaptainSeeSarp
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                I personally think that you overstate the 'radicalism of his past associations' and the assumption that he's not allowed to have formed opinions less radical than the most radical elements in his past.

                                There is no way he could have been elected if people actually realized it was a bad association. The news channels took care of that. Almost all of the population have never seen or heard Obama other than the TV, internet, and newspapers. Also take into consideration the increased police control worldwide. Police will arrest you for not complying with every demand no matter what it is, which they call obstruction of justice. Random checkpoints are an example of this. You must have your identity papers and have your car searched. If you don't comply or if you try to get away with them they will send a police car after you and pull you over. We are increasingly loosing our rights as human beings, we are be dehumanized by building our own prison, you can't escape society. Think about that when you are in a large city in a skyscraper.

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                                  Yeah, coz that really hurts. What I don't get is, does he actually think he's presented or defended his views here ?

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                                  Oakman
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  What I don't get is, does he actually think he's presented or defended his views here ?

                                  Broadened out the question for you. . . No, he doesn't. He responds, he envies, he justifies, he hates, but he doesn't really think.

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                                  • C CaptainSeeSarp

                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    I personally think that you overstate the 'radicalism of his past associations' and the assumption that he's not allowed to have formed opinions less radical than the most radical elements in his past.

                                    There is no way he could have been elected if people actually realized it was a bad association. The news channels took care of that. Almost all of the population have never seen or heard Obama other than the TV, internet, and newspapers. Also take into consideration the increased police control worldwide. Police will arrest you for not complying with every demand no matter what it is, which they call obstruction of justice. Random checkpoints are an example of this. You must have your identity papers and have your car searched. If you don't comply or if you try to get away with them they will send a police car after you and pull you over. We are increasingly loosing our rights as human beings, we are be dehumanized by building our own prison, you can't escape society. Think about that when you are in a large city in a skyscraper.

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                                    CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                    You must have your identity papers and have your car searched. If you don't comply or if you try to get away with them they will send a police car after you and pull you over.

                                    Driving without a license again, were you?

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSarp

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Yeah, you're right, I don't have any idea what it feels like to have the sort of power the president does.

                                      So you agree that once you have real power that it will do some very damaging things to the persons psychology, creating a mindset dominated by having vast control and wealth.

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      How do you know this to be true ?

                                      Everything is right under your nose you just have to open your mind. Its right their in front of your eyes, but its disguised through using television and other media to alter and sustain everyone's mindset. Notice how the media doesn't report on real issued that effect people or there is inadequate coverage on important issues.

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Why do they want this, how does it affect me and you, and how do you know this is true ?

                                      That is the ultimate goal one could achieve in life. Think of what they feel every second they are alive when they know how much power and wealth they possess. Its a simple concept really, very achievable.

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                      So you agree that once you have real power that it will do some very damaging things to the persons psychology, creating a mindset dominated by having vast control and wealth.

                                      Hell, no. I would accept that COULD happen. But all it did to Clinton, for example, was make him decide it didn't matter if Hillary refused to give him a blow job, he could still get one.

                                      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                      Everything is right under your nose you just have to open your mind

                                      This is what you keep saying. And, it's complete crap. Either you can offer proof, or you cannot. If you cannot, then obviously, you have no reason to believe this stuff, either.

                                      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                      but its disguised through using television and other media to alter and sustain everyone's mindset

                                      I watch literally zero TV. I read almost no news. What is sustaining my mindset, code project ? Is Chris in the Illuminati ?

                                      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                      Notice how the media doesn't report on real issued that effect people or there is inadequate coverage on important issues.

                                      You're mistaking the purpose of hte media. It is to make money. If people were more literate and cared about real issues, those issues would get wider coverage. People care about when Paris Hilton last had sex with a stranger, or when Britney showed the world her freshly shaved goodie basket.

                                      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                      Think of what they feel every second they are alive when they know how much power and wealth they possess.

                                      OK, so they want power, to have it. And you don't want them to have it, because they want it ? Is that the whole story ? Again, any proof for any of this, or are you just repeating stuff you read on websites with no actual proof or reason to know it's true ?

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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        I personally think that you overstate the 'radicalism of his past associations' and the assumption that he's not allowed to have formed opinions less radical than the most radical elements in his past.

                                        There is no way he could have been elected if people actually realized it was a bad association. The news channels took care of that. Almost all of the population have never seen or heard Obama other than the TV, internet, and newspapers. Also take into consideration the increased police control worldwide. Police will arrest you for not complying with every demand no matter what it is, which they call obstruction of justice. Random checkpoints are an example of this. You must have your identity papers and have your car searched. If you don't comply or if you try to get away with them they will send a police car after you and pull you over. We are increasingly loosing our rights as human beings, we are be dehumanized by building our own prison, you can't escape society. Think about that when you are in a large city in a skyscraper.

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                        Almost all of the population have never seen or heard Obama other than the TV, internet, and newspapers.

                                        More people believe he is a Muslim than is remotely reasonable ( given that he isn't ). So, the media lies. Both sides lie. So what ? That's the world you live in.

                                        CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                        Also take into consideration the increased police control worldwide

                                        This is a pile of lies purpetrated by gun nuts.

                                        CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                        Police will arrest you for not complying with every demand no matter what it is, which they call obstruction of justice

                                        This is paranoia. You should not take drugs if you're subject to such irrational fears and mental issues. I am not joking.

                                        CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                        Random checkpoints are an example of this. You must have your identity papers and have your car searched. If you don't comply or if you try to get away with them they will send a police car after you and pull you over.

                                        This happens where in the US ? I have seen more of the US than you are likely to, driven in most states I have visited, and never seen this happen, or heard of it. And, of course if you run, the police will chase you. Are you insane ? You have identity papers ?

                                        CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                        Think about that when you are in a large city in a skyscraper.

                                        Well, I prefer country life, but I can see why some people like the city.

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                                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                          So you agree that once you have real power that it will do some very damaging things to the persons psychology, creating a mindset dominated by having vast control and wealth.

                                          Hell, no. I would accept that COULD happen. But all it did to Clinton, for example, was make him decide it didn't matter if Hillary refused to give him a blow job, he could still get one.

                                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                          Everything is right under your nose you just have to open your mind

                                          This is what you keep saying. And, it's complete crap. Either you can offer proof, or you cannot. If you cannot, then obviously, you have no reason to believe this stuff, either.

                                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                          but its disguised through using television and other media to alter and sustain everyone's mindset

                                          I watch literally zero TV. I read almost no news. What is sustaining my mindset, code project ? Is Chris in the Illuminati ?

                                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                          Notice how the media doesn't report on real issued that effect people or there is inadequate coverage on important issues.

                                          You're mistaking the purpose of hte media. It is to make money. If people were more literate and cared about real issues, those issues would get wider coverage. People care about when Paris Hilton last had sex with a stranger, or when Britney showed the world her freshly shaved goodie basket.

                                          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                                          Think of what they feel every second they are alive when they know how much power and wealth they possess.

                                          OK, so they want power, to have it. And you don't want them to have it, because they want it ? Is that the whole story ? Again, any proof for any of this, or are you just repeating stuff you read on websites with no actual proof or reason to know it's true ?

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          I watch literally zero TV. I read almost no news. What is sustaining my mindset, code project ? Is Chris in the Illuminati ?

                                          That is your number one problem. You are ignorant.

                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          Again, any proof for any of this, or are you just repeating stuff you read on websites with no actual proof or reason to know it's true ?

                                          You have a very constrained thought process. You think on rigid guidelines set by the society you live in.

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