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    Scenario: You've worked hard in all your free time and have created a good 'farewell to industry' option for yourself. Given a choice between: A) making a name for yourself and potentially getting little monetary reward, perhaps going open-source and all others benefiting more than you ( whether initially or for all time ). B) making good money and selling the lot, but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV no agent or corporate-layers-on-layers employer understands well anyway ( or HR is never likely to dig the directioon you are taking ) Whilst the ideal, C) both, is perhaps considered a perfect outcome, imagine this is the last time you have to deal with the field in any great depth. Or, consider that it might be a tad unethical to have both. Moreover you are about to begin a fresh, less-LCD-oriented career and/or lifestyle.. Philosophical question only: What would You (Lottery ad voice behind) pick and why? Thanks in advance..

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      Scenario: You've worked hard in all your free time and have created a good 'farewell to industry' option for yourself. Given a choice between: A) making a name for yourself and potentially getting little monetary reward, perhaps going open-source and all others benefiting more than you ( whether initially or for all time ). B) making good money and selling the lot, but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV no agent or corporate-layers-on-layers employer understands well anyway ( or HR is never likely to dig the directioon you are taking ) Whilst the ideal, C) both, is perhaps considered a perfect outcome, imagine this is the last time you have to deal with the field in any great depth. Or, consider that it might be a tad unethical to have both. Moreover you are about to begin a fresh, less-LCD-oriented career and/or lifestyle.. Philosophical question only: What would You (Lottery ad voice behind) pick and why? Thanks in advance..

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      Luis Alonso Ramos
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      User of Users Group wrote:

      but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV

      Why would you need a CV? to get a job? you already made good money :) Seriously, I'd probably go for the money. It's not that it is all I care about, but having a good reputation won't help pay bills, send kids to school or get a fast car.

      Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico My Blog!

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        Scenario: You've worked hard in all your free time and have created a good 'farewell to industry' option for yourself. Given a choice between: A) making a name for yourself and potentially getting little monetary reward, perhaps going open-source and all others benefiting more than you ( whether initially or for all time ). B) making good money and selling the lot, but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV no agent or corporate-layers-on-layers employer understands well anyway ( or HR is never likely to dig the directioon you are taking ) Whilst the ideal, C) both, is perhaps considered a perfect outcome, imagine this is the last time you have to deal with the field in any great depth. Or, consider that it might be a tad unethical to have both. Moreover you are about to begin a fresh, less-LCD-oriented career and/or lifestyle.. Philosophical question only: What would You (Lottery ad voice behind) pick and why? Thanks in advance..

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        I guess it would depend on your character. Will I should say that would be a fruit of your character and what is important in life to you. As for your CV, it really does not matter, if you are leaving the industry and moving to a new one, it would not apply.

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          Scenario: You've worked hard in all your free time and have created a good 'farewell to industry' option for yourself. Given a choice between: A) making a name for yourself and potentially getting little monetary reward, perhaps going open-source and all others benefiting more than you ( whether initially or for all time ). B) making good money and selling the lot, but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV no agent or corporate-layers-on-layers employer understands well anyway ( or HR is never likely to dig the directioon you are taking ) Whilst the ideal, C) both, is perhaps considered a perfect outcome, imagine this is the last time you have to deal with the field in any great depth. Or, consider that it might be a tad unethical to have both. Moreover you are about to begin a fresh, less-LCD-oriented career and/or lifestyle.. Philosophical question only: What would You (Lottery ad voice behind) pick and why? Thanks in advance..

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          Joe Woodbury
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          B Not even a contest, especially if you're bidding farewell to the industry. Besides, the idea that you'd make a name for yourself is laughable. Sure a few geeks may learn to recognize it, but if you're interested in fame, there are fare better ways to do it, like running for political office.

          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            Scenario: You've worked hard in all your free time and have created a good 'farewell to industry' option for yourself. Given a choice between: A) making a name for yourself and potentially getting little monetary reward, perhaps going open-source and all others benefiting more than you ( whether initially or for all time ). B) making good money and selling the lot, but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV no agent or corporate-layers-on-layers employer understands well anyway ( or HR is never likely to dig the directioon you are taking ) Whilst the ideal, C) both, is perhaps considered a perfect outcome, imagine this is the last time you have to deal with the field in any great depth. Or, consider that it might be a tad unethical to have both. Moreover you are about to begin a fresh, less-LCD-oriented career and/or lifestyle.. Philosophical question only: What would You (Lottery ad voice behind) pick and why? Thanks in advance..

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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            I would still work if I won the lottery. That said, I would take the money, fame is overrated and Ferrari's are nice.

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              Scenario: You've worked hard in all your free time and have created a good 'farewell to industry' option for yourself. Given a choice between: A) making a name for yourself and potentially getting little monetary reward, perhaps going open-source and all others benefiting more than you ( whether initially or for all time ). B) making good money and selling the lot, but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV no agent or corporate-layers-on-layers employer understands well anyway ( or HR is never likely to dig the directioon you are taking ) Whilst the ideal, C) both, is perhaps considered a perfect outcome, imagine this is the last time you have to deal with the field in any great depth. Or, consider that it might be a tad unethical to have both. Moreover you are about to begin a fresh, less-LCD-oriented career and/or lifestyle.. Philosophical question only: What would You (Lottery ad voice behind) pick and why? Thanks in advance..

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              I must be missing something here: in what reality would taking the money be anything other than the obvious choice? You are *leaving* the industry as you say, what possible matter is the cv and when did a line on a cv mean anything to any serious employer other than getting an interview anyway? Unless of course you're fantastically wealthy in which case you *still* take the money but you donate it to charity and make a big noise about it to stroke your ego (as in option a which is really all you're saying there anyway).


              "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                Scenario: You've worked hard in all your free time and have created a good 'farewell to industry' option for yourself. Given a choice between: A) making a name for yourself and potentially getting little monetary reward, perhaps going open-source and all others benefiting more than you ( whether initially or for all time ). B) making good money and selling the lot, but with no attribution to your name apart from tiny detail in your CV no agent or corporate-layers-on-layers employer understands well anyway ( or HR is never likely to dig the directioon you are taking ) Whilst the ideal, C) both, is perhaps considered a perfect outcome, imagine this is the last time you have to deal with the field in any great depth. Or, consider that it might be a tad unethical to have both. Moreover you are about to begin a fresh, less-LCD-oriented career and/or lifestyle.. Philosophical question only: What would You (Lottery ad voice behind) pick and why? Thanks in advance..

                modified on Thursday, January 1, 2009 2:11 PM

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                I'd take the money every time, the only realistic course of action.... If you want fame, get a spot on a talent (or rather talentless) show like the X-Factor or what ever clone Simon Cowell has rolled out now...:)

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                  I must be missing something here: in what reality would taking the money be anything other than the obvious choice? You are *leaving* the industry as you say, what possible matter is the cv and when did a line on a cv mean anything to any serious employer other than getting an interview anyway? Unless of course you're fantastically wealthy in which case you *still* take the money but you donate it to charity and make a big noise about it to stroke your ego (as in option a which is really all you're saying there anyway).


                  "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                  > in what reality would taking the money be anything other than the obvious choice? Having a life :) And doing things your way or the coolest way you can.. I agree CV issue is pointless (as someone made it look idiotic :) ), but it is usually about recognition of what you have done by peers or something you devoted years/decades of your life to.. a track record.. and I agree it is not an obvious choice.. However, stop for a second, taking A) makes that quite clear in fact. Exactly what you say, it completely mutes the ego point or noise for the industry, but you move on and without money benefit. If you look around most of the top quality work is either GPL or even less restrictive (you probably use something in your field) and people behind it are extraordinary characters, down to earth and competent; some projects go to an extent of 150 million dollars and above, free, fully deserving all the respect they can get.. now take that into a commercial world of an industry that only rewards life-at-keyboard-until-best-years-are-gone, secrecy, internally egos only manifest as arrogance, and voila, B) is no longer an obvious choice. 'Reality', it is usually about recognition of what you have done by peers, about innovation, creation/work, a track record, and I agree it is not an obvious choice.. commercial world is only one aspect of it (btw, it is the toughest commercial market there is). It is about stamping your foot for the last time and putting things for the lack of a better word: right, done and saying farewell. Sooner or later you will hit that stage in your career, things you used to love doing, cannot give more time to any longer etc. And you simply make a choice, and go left-ism or right-ism.. :) I agree $s does mean cars, kids to school, etc.. but there is far more rewarding work or job you can do than one at a personal world of PC-forever, simple as that.

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                    > in what reality would taking the money be anything other than the obvious choice? Having a life :) And doing things your way or the coolest way you can.. I agree CV issue is pointless (as someone made it look idiotic :) ), but it is usually about recognition of what you have done by peers or something you devoted years/decades of your life to.. a track record.. and I agree it is not an obvious choice.. However, stop for a second, taking A) makes that quite clear in fact. Exactly what you say, it completely mutes the ego point or noise for the industry, but you move on and without money benefit. If you look around most of the top quality work is either GPL or even less restrictive (you probably use something in your field) and people behind it are extraordinary characters, down to earth and competent; some projects go to an extent of 150 million dollars and above, free, fully deserving all the respect they can get.. now take that into a commercial world of an industry that only rewards life-at-keyboard-until-best-years-are-gone, secrecy, internally egos only manifest as arrogance, and voila, B) is no longer an obvious choice. 'Reality', it is usually about recognition of what you have done by peers, about innovation, creation/work, a track record, and I agree it is not an obvious choice.. commercial world is only one aspect of it (btw, it is the toughest commercial market there is). It is about stamping your foot for the last time and putting things for the lack of a better word: right, done and saying farewell. Sooner or later you will hit that stage in your career, things you used to love doing, cannot give more time to any longer etc. And you simply make a choice, and go left-ism or right-ism.. :) I agree $s does mean cars, kids to school, etc.. but there is far more rewarding work or job you can do than one at a personal world of PC-forever, simple as that.

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                    In my case it is my own company and all the reward I need is a) Money b) knowing that I'm making a difference for the small businesses around the globe that use my software to in turn make themselves more money. If I wanted to get a good happy feeling I'd be programming for scientific and / or medical research or something. An area that *truly* helps people in the long run beyond my time here, programming on an open source project would *not* give me that feeling of having contributed because open source is not a cause I believe in in the first place and let's face it, most of it is only of benefit to cheap computer users not society as a whole. Firefox is a prime example, you can get a good feeling from having contributed to it but in the big picture it means absolutely nothing to society, you are making a free replacement for something that comes free with all pc's in the first place, you aren't benefiting anyone other than a bunch of computer geeks.

                    User of Users Group wrote:

                    I agree $s does mean cars, kids to school, etc.. but there is far more rewarding work or job you can do than one at a personal world of PC-forever, simple as that.

                    Ahh..spoken by a person who is not feeling the pinch from a lack of money! ;) Here's what I recommend: take the money and donate it to a charity that is doing scientific research directly into curing any one of the worlds persistent diseases. That's the only charity that means anything in the long run and you'll get a nice rewarding feeling from it. :)


                    "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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