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  • D daniilzol

    Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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    "(The Windows 95 taskbar exhibited other "firsts" that continue to this day: It provided a single button for accessing common system functions like help and shutdown. And it could optionally display the time.)" Hardly "firsts".

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    • D daniilzol

      Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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      Every new version promotes a new way of doing things. Some users will be happy while others will be mad.

      TOMZ_KV

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      • D daniilzol

        Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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        Henry Minute
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        JazzJackRabbit wrote:

        I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it.

        Oh my word. Here we go again!

        Henry Minute If you open a can of worms, any viable solution *MUST* involve a larger can.

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        • D daniilzol

          Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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          Tom Deketelaere
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          "Now before anyone gets the wrong idea, I'm a huge fan of Windows 7 and I like most of what Microsoft's doing with this product. I just think that some of the changes they're making should be rethought, or at least actually tested with a broad audience before they're unleashed on an unsuspecting public. This is my attempt, at least, to air some of these concerns. --Paul Thurrott December 2, 2008" Well (correct me if I'm wrong) windows7 is still in beta and isn't released to the public yet. The whole idea of a beta is to get it tested with a broad audience. Lets not start shooting this OS before it has even gotten to the market, who can honestly say that they'v ever created a program that worked right from the start without any problems? I think it's still a bit (much) to early to start saying that windows7 is 'bad' or 'good' it has only been out for a few days now, give it some time.

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            "Now before anyone gets the wrong idea, I'm a huge fan of Windows 7 and I like most of what Microsoft's doing with this product. I just think that some of the changes they're making should be rethought, or at least actually tested with a broad audience before they're unleashed on an unsuspecting public. This is my attempt, at least, to air some of these concerns. --Paul Thurrott December 2, 2008" Well (correct me if I'm wrong) windows7 is still in beta and isn't released to the public yet. The whole idea of a beta is to get it tested with a broad audience. Lets not start shooting this OS before it has even gotten to the market, who can honestly say that they'v ever created a program that worked right from the start without any problems? I think it's still a bit (much) to early to start saying that windows7 is 'bad' or 'good' it has only been out for a few days now, give it some time.

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            Tom Deketelaere wrote:

            I think it's still a bit (much) to early to start saying that windows7 is 'bad' or 'good' it has only been out for a few days now, give it some time

            Amen to that. Funnily enough, that's how every thread about windows 7 ends these days. Learning is repeating, maybe we should add to the Lounge rules: - W7 is still a beta, wait before bashing. And this one: - W7 is still a beta, wait before bashing. Another couple: - W7 is still a beta, wait before bashing. - W7 is still a beta, wait before bashing.

            I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones www.immo-brasseurs.com

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            • D daniilzol

              Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              Downloaded an installed on an old PII 1.8mhz with 512mb ram box. Seems okay; ran quickly enough and looks okay. Some of the features will take some getting used to, as with all new software, but it looks good and is easy enough to navigate.

              JazzJackRabbit wrote:

              I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it

              What a dumb thing to say.

              me, me, me

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              • D daniilzol

                Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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                Judah Gabriel Himango
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                His beef is that Windows 7 is simpler, but not easier. Ok. I understand what he means. But then he says the only way to make things easier is to do what the Zune team did: rewrite it. That seems to be the answer to every software problem these days: rewrite it. Rewriting something is tempting, but one must realize that years (in Windows' case, decades) of bug fixes and edge cases are accounted for, and if those things aren't there in the new rewritten version, people will be ANGRY. And we haven't even mentioned compat problems associated with "rewriting it". Heck, Windows Vista's driver subsystems were rewritten, and all that caused was a world of pain when Vista was released. Simpler, but not easier, so rewrite it. Sigh.

                Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                  His beef is that Windows 7 is simpler, but not easier. Ok. I understand what he means. But then he says the only way to make things easier is to do what the Zune team did: rewrite it. That seems to be the answer to every software problem these days: rewrite it. Rewriting something is tempting, but one must realize that years (in Windows' case, decades) of bug fixes and edge cases are accounted for, and if those things aren't there in the new rewritten version, people will be ANGRY. And we haven't even mentioned compat problems associated with "rewriting it". Heck, Windows Vista's driver subsystems were rewritten, and all that caused was a world of pain when Vista was released. Simpler, but not easier, so rewrite it. Sigh.

                  Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                  dan sh
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                  I dont find you regular at CP anymore. Maybe I missed something. But there is something related to you in my post above. I was unaware of rules back then.

                  The word "politics" describes the process so well: "Poli" in Latin meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures." जय हिंद

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                  • D daniilzol

                    Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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                    rastaVnuce
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                    You forgot one very important thing: you can set it up to behave like before. Do you still hate it?

                    To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                    • T Tom Deketelaere

                      "Now before anyone gets the wrong idea, I'm a huge fan of Windows 7 and I like most of what Microsoft's doing with this product. I just think that some of the changes they're making should be rethought, or at least actually tested with a broad audience before they're unleashed on an unsuspecting public. This is my attempt, at least, to air some of these concerns. --Paul Thurrott December 2, 2008" Well (correct me if I'm wrong) windows7 is still in beta and isn't released to the public yet. The whole idea of a beta is to get it tested with a broad audience. Lets not start shooting this OS before it has even gotten to the market, who can honestly say that they'v ever created a program that worked right from the start without any problems? I think it's still a bit (much) to early to start saying that windows7 is 'bad' or 'good' it has only been out for a few days now, give it some time.

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                      Seriously, though - before putting out a beta, it should have gone through much more stringent usability testing. I don't want Windows to do things differently. I want it to do them BETTER. So far, I've seen no compelling reason to buy Vista 2.0 when it comes out.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      • R rastaVnuce

                        You forgot one very important thing: you can set it up to behave like before. Do you still hate it?

                        To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                        Yes.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        • R rastaVnuce

                          You forgot one very important thing: you can set it up to behave like before. Do you still hate it?

                          To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                          daniilzol
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                          I know you can add titles to the icons. Can you set it up exactly like the one in Vista/XP meaning adding icon to the quick launch does not remove the program from MRU list and lets you open more than one instance by clicking on quick launch icon?

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                          • D daniilzol

                            Not by me, but there were several things that simply made me go W...T...F... so I thought it would be nice to share with the rest of you to see what we're in for with windows 7. I can already say I hate new windows taskbar even though I've never used it. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_simple.asp[^]

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                            Rutvik Dave
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                            If you dont want to read try this[^] Look at ease of the windows management in this video[^] Just installed on my pc and looks good... and looks like Windows Vista Service Pack 4, faster then vista (still not able to find any problem with windows vista since 1 year).

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                            • D dan sh

                              I dont find you regular at CP anymore. Maybe I missed something. But there is something related to you in my post above. I was unaware of rules back then.

                              The word "politics" describes the process so well: "Poli" in Latin meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures." जय हिंद

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                              Judah Gabriel Himango
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                              :confused:

                              Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                Seriously, though - before putting out a beta, it should have gone through much more stringent usability testing. I don't want Windows to do things differently. I want it to do them BETTER. So far, I've seen no compelling reason to buy Vista 2.0 when it comes out.

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                Rutvik Dave
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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                I've seen no compelling reason to buy Vista 2.0 when it comes out.

                                Correct. you cannot spend $300+ for Windows Vista Service Pack 4 :) . Looks like Windows Vista with UAC turned OFF + Touch + something...

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                                • R rastaVnuce

                                  You forgot one very important thing: you can set it up to behave like before. Do you still hate it?

                                  To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Can you? I thought I read that MS was convinced the new not-a-dock bar was so shiney they weren't going to provide any legacy option at all.

                                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Seriously, though - before putting out a beta, it should have gone through much more stringent usability testing. I don't want Windows to do things differently. I want it to do them BETTER. So far, I've seen no compelling reason to buy Vista 2.0 when it comes out.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    Vista 2.0

                                    That's a little aggresive, don't you think? From what I've read thus far, it's more like Vista SP3 (SP2 is due out Real Soon Now).

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                      :confused:

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                                      dan sh
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                                      Go to My Profile -> My fifth message in C# forum and you will understand.

                                      The word "politics" describes the process so well: "Poli" in Latin meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures." जय हिंद

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                                        Go to My Profile -> My fifth message in C# forum and you will understand.

                                        The word "politics" describes the process so well: "Poli" in Latin meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures." जय हिंद

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                                        Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                        Ah, now I understand. No problem, we are all newbies at one time or another. Your English seems to be improving.

                                        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                        • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                          Ah, now I understand. No problem, we are all newbies at one time or another. Your English seems to be improving.

                                          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                          dan sh
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                                          I dont think so. I still have the same Engilsh(what so ever). My typing skills have improved no doubt. What do you say?

                                          The word "politics" describes the process so well: "Poli" in Latin meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures." जय हिंद

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