Sci-Fi books
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Stuart Dootson wrote:
The Player of Games
Didn't get on with that on a first read - got very annoyed that the rules of the game itself weren't made plain. I will give it another go sometime. :)
Steve_Harris wrote:
got very annoyed that the rules of the game itself weren't made plain
That was kind of the point, as far as I could tell - [SPOILER!!!!] the point was that until the end, Gurgeh didn't understand that the rules of the game were the rules of the Azad empire, and once he did, he (unknowingly) fulfilled what Contact/Special Circumstances expected, and started the decline of the empire. [/SPOILER!!!!]
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Of the titles listed, any that you reccommend?
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I'd recommend (in no particular order): Stephen Donaldson's "Gap" series; C J Cherryh's "Downbelow Station, "Cyteen" and others in that "future" (not her fantasy stuff, unless you're into that sort of nonsense...); Just about anythihg by Greg Bear; "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson is a legend in it's own time - a real classic; And if you haven't read the graphic novel "The Watchmen" by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons you really really should... I've just re-read it and it still blows my mind... ..and any early Heinlein for some old classics ("The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress", "Stranger In A Strange Land", etc...) /edit - and Philip K Dick, of course... /edit
gmPhil wrote:
..and any early Heinlein for some old classics ("The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress", "Stranger In A Strange Land", etc...)
I second that. I read both those books last year. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is one of the best sci-fi books I've ever read. I think it won the Hugo award back when it was published in the 60's.
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Some more works for you to consider: Robert Heinlein: The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, Stranger In A Strange Land) Joe Haldeman: The Forever War Larry Niven: Ringworld, Protector Frederick Pohl: Gateway (in fact, the whole Heechee Saga) C. J. Cherryh: Pride of Chanur, the Faded Sun trilogy Allen Steele: Orbital Decay, Lunar Descent Almost anything by these authors is good.
Software Zen:
delete this;I read Forever War recently, and thoroughly recommend it. It was published in 1973 as a sci-fi anti Vietnam novel (Haldeman was a vet), but in these times it still resonates. I believe it is currently being made into a movie.
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Pardon my knowledge on Sci-Fi books, but I have never ever read any Sci-Fi. Can anybody recommand a good Sci-Fi book to start with?
I would recommend Accelerando by Charles Stross. Its a vision of where humanity is going as we get more and more processing power, able to augment our minds and memory digitally, downloading 'wetware' plugins for our brains. Some of the ideas in it are amazing and creepy.
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I'm a bit excited because there's a 35% discount at one book house here for all books in their SF collection, and I'm gonna spend some cash on that. The titles that I've chosen are: H2G2 Dune (the initial 6 volumes) Ender's Game & Ender's Shadow The Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars and Blue Mars) I can't go wrong with these, can I? The only SF I've read so far is some Asimov, Childhood's End by Sir Arthur C Clarke and Starship Troopers.
I'm going to add a few that nobody has mentioned yet: Anything by Vernor Vinge - 'Rainbows End' and 'Deepness In The Sky' are very good Ian MacDonald - 'Ares Express' China Meiville - 'Perdido Street Station' trilogy Ken McLeod - 'Learning The World' Neil Gaiman - 'American Gods' - more fantasy than sci-fi really, but awesome.
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Cell (more horror then SF), by Steven King is fairly entertaing. I think he wrote it because he hates people who talk on cell phones at resturants, so he wrote horrific telepathic killer zombie book about these "rude people".
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MrPlankton wrote:
Cell (more horror then SF), by Steven King is fairly entertaing.
I actually read that just a few months ago. A really good book, but to me it seemed to lag behind King's classics, which are not good, but brilliant. (The Stand, It, Pet Sematary, Salems Lot, Misery, etc...) But any of his novels is guaranteed not to be boring. One of the (few) good deeds I did last year was convincing my cousin, who hasn't read any book in years to try SK. He was already into horror movies and games so he said Ok. Now he owns a douzen or so of his novels and reads them with great pleasure.
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John C wrote:
I've no idea what H2G2
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
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Of course. Sorry for being too lazy to type it.
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Of the titles listed, any that you reccommend?
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gmPhil wrote:
..and any early Heinlein for some old classics ("The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress", "Stranger In A Strange Land", etc...)
I second that. I read both those books last year. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is one of the best sci-fi books I've ever read. I think it won the Hugo award back when it was published in the 60's.
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Boro_Bob wrote:
I think it won the Hugo award back when it was published in the 60's.
It was nominated in both 1966 (because of magazine serialization) and in 1967, when it won. You might also enjoy Red Planet - although written much earlier and as a juvenile, it is also the story of colonists (Martian, in this case) rebelling against an absentee government. You might also enjoy Starship Troopers - it is, by the way - very, very different from the movie. The screenwriter and director proudly announced that they had never read the book before making the adaptation.
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For some more recent good work (particularly if you like Heinlien): John Scalzi : Old Man's War, The Ghost Brigades, The Last Colony. All three are most enjoyable.
Rob Graham wrote:
John Scalzi : Old Man's War, The Ghost Brigades, The Last Colony. All three are most enjoyable.
Absolutely agree. By the way: Scalzi has just hired on as Creative Consultant for Stargate: Universe, the upcoming third series set in the Stargate universe. ;)
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Boro_Bob wrote:
I think it won the Hugo award back when it was published in the 60's.
It was nominated in both 1966 (because of magazine serialization) and in 1967, when it won. You might also enjoy Red Planet - although written much earlier and as a juvenile, it is also the story of colonists (Martian, in this case) rebelling against an absentee government. You might also enjoy Starship Troopers - it is, by the way - very, very different from the movie. The screenwriter and director proudly announced that they had never read the book before making the adaptation.
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So, have you read Variable Star yet? I picked it up last week and have to say that I like it so far. I'll probably finish it this weekend so I'll have a real opinion then.
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I'm a bit excited because there's a 35% discount at one book house here for all books in their SF collection, and I'm gonna spend some cash on that. The titles that I've chosen are: H2G2 Dune (the initial 6 volumes) Ender's Game & Ender's Shadow The Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars and Blue Mars) I can't go wrong with these, can I? The only SF I've read so far is some Asimov, Childhood's End by Sir Arthur C Clarke and Starship Troopers.
The mars trilogy is good.Gateway by Frederic Pohl is also highly recommended. Check out Death World, Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga (the first books are better but it gets addictive fast so ...), can't really think of anything else right now so ... Edit: Michael Chrichton: Prey Zelazny: Chronicles of Amber - though this is somewhat mind boggling There was a book called "The Oracle" I believe, it was about this girl who could change with a random action (like move her hand etc). I can't remember the name of the Author. I think it was trilogy, the other books being called "The wizard" and something else I think.
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I read Forever War recently, and thoroughly recommend it. It was published in 1973 as a sci-fi anti Vietnam novel (Haldeman was a vet), but in these times it still resonates. I believe it is currently being made into a movie.
Words fade as the meanings change, but somehow, it don't bother me.
Boro_Bob wrote:
believe it is currently being made into a movie.
It looks like most of these statements are based on an announcement last October by Ridley Scott that he was optioned to direct a film version of the novel. I couldn't find anything else about it, so I doubt there are any firm plans at this point. I would be extremely disappointed (but not surprised) if it didn't turn into a generic special effects CGI masturbate-a-thon.
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So, have you read Variable Star yet? I picked it up last week and have to say that I like it so far. I'll probably finish it this weekend so I'll have a real opinion then.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
So, have you read Variable Star yet?
Yep - got it on a 2-4-1 deal through the Heinlein Society (with Robinson's latest)
Chris Austin wrote:
so I'll have a real opinion then
I'll be intereste in hearing it and sharing mine, too. By the way, have you read For Us, The Living?
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Boro_Bob wrote:
believe it is currently being made into a movie.
It looks like most of these statements are based on an announcement last October by Ridley Scott that he was optioned to direct a film version of the novel. I couldn't find anything else about it, so I doubt there are any firm plans at this point. I would be extremely disappointed (but not surprised) if it didn't turn into a generic special effects CGI masturbate-a-thon.
Software Zen:
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Fold With Us![^]Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
I would be extremely disappointed (but not surprised) if it didn't turn into a generic special effects CGI masturbate-a-thon.
But it would still generate lots of extra sales of the book. Ginny Heinlein told me that when that travesty of Starship Troopers was made, sales of the novel skyrocketed and stayed high for quite awhile. So even a bad adaptation can lead people to a book that makes 'em think.
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Chris Austin wrote:
So, have you read Variable Star yet?
Yep - got it on a 2-4-1 deal through the Heinlein Society (with Robinson's latest)
Chris Austin wrote:
so I'll have a real opinion then
I'll be intereste in hearing it and sharing mine, too. By the way, have you read For Us, The Living?
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Oakman wrote:
By the way, have you read For Us, The Living?
Yeah, I enjoyed it. I think I read it last year just after reading JOB: A Comedy of Errors. I found his take on a pseudo-utopian economy/society pretty interesting. Heck, every time I hear people talking about unemployment and other bad economic news I wonder if some version of his system would be possible or ethical in the highly connected world we live in.
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I'm a bit excited because there's a 35% discount at one book house here for all books in their SF collection, and I'm gonna spend some cash on that. The titles that I've chosen are: H2G2 Dune (the initial 6 volumes) Ender's Game & Ender's Shadow The Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars and Blue Mars) I can't go wrong with these, can I? The only SF I've read so far is some Asimov, Childhood's End by Sir Arthur C Clarke and Starship Troopers.
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Chris Austin wrote:
So, have you read Variable Star yet?
Yep - got it on a 2-4-1 deal through the Heinlein Society (with Robinson's latest)
Chris Austin wrote:
so I'll have a real opinion then
I'll be intereste in hearing it and sharing mine, too. By the way, have you read For Us, The Living?
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Unbeleivable, one of the great regrets in life is that there will be no more books from RAH, I had no idea there might be some still turning up. I would buy this purely on the Heinlein Prize contribution. Excellent
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I'd suggest anything by Flint, Ringo, and Weber.
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Flint tends to write to a formula and all his books seem the same after a while. Ringo on the other hand does step outside the boundaries and Weber just does not publish often enough, what 20+ books tcha.
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