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  • O Oakman

    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

    Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

    "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    Better be friends than foes.

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      Better be friends than foes.

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      Oakman
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      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

      Better be friends than foes.

      Yep. You get great rates on your mortgage that way.

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      • O Oakman

        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

        Better be friends than foes.

        Yep. You get great rates on your mortgage that way.

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        And in return, your money will lose value. Preferably at a steady state of 2%/year. Amazing system... Why didn't I become a banker??

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          And in return, your money will lose value. Preferably at a steady state of 2%/year. Amazing system... Why didn't I become a banker??

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          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

          Preferably at a steady state of 2%/year

          But inflation will insure that your tax rate goes up every year :-D

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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            Conservative or not. If you've got buddies within the government, its policies matters little. Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

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            Stan Shannon
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            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

            Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

            ANother good reason to get rid of government I suppose.

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            • O Oakman

              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

              Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

              "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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              Stan Shannon
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              Oakman wrote:

              "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

              SO which should we be rid of? Banks or standing armies? "A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government." -- Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801 Notice, this is a comment made while actually in a policy making position, not some letter dashed off to one of his white trash buddies.

              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                Oakman wrote:

                "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

                SO which should we be rid of? Banks or standing armies? "A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government." -- Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801 Notice, this is a comment made while actually in a policy making position, not some letter dashed off to one of his white trash buddies.

                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                Oakman
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                Sorry, Stanley, I 'm just not in the mood for a food fight - and you seem incapable of anything else. Guess it's time to zap you with Diego's script. Bye.

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                • O Oakman

                  I found the latest press release from the Bank of America just too engaging not to pass on. It appears that CEO Ken Lewis, who -- four months ago -- broke his right arm patting himself on the back for snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices and doing the whole deal over a single weekend, is now getting an additional cash infusion from all of us who live or work in the States - via his good buddy and golfing partner Hank Paulson - to the tune of twenty billion up front and a guarantee against loss on bad loans made by Merril Lynch to the tune of another one hundred and eighteen fricken billion with a "B" dollars! It seems that, according to Ken, with his whirlwind aquisition from another good buddy, Stan O'Neil (ex CEO of Merril Lynch who just retired with a parachute of 161 million bucks) he bought a pig in a poke and discovered the porker was all baloney. Merril Lynch's balance sheet sucked scissors sideways. There's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot in the world of corporate finance - it's called due diligence. Theoretically, when not enough due dilligence is shown trying to identify any downside to changes in operation, heads will roll. But not, of course, if you are in that little club of friends-of-Paulson. Instead, any problems BoA might incur will be made good by you and by me. Pretty funny, huh? Ken Lewis, by the way, "vigorously disputes" the interpretation of his story that I just related. He says there was no way of knowing how badly Merril Lynch's loans would turn out when he bought it in September. This is a really great joke when you remember that he gets paid the big bucks (7.4 mil @ year) because he's supposed to be able to anticipate these things and protect the shareholders and employees from taking it on the chin. But the biggest joke of all is that Lewis just made a stock distribution to his employees as he was required to do by contract. The stock was valued at $14.17 @ share. Then he announced that BoA need more money from the Feds. Then he announced that he was cutting the dividend from 32 cents a share (last year) to 1 cent. Then he announced that for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year. . . Remember that stock worth $14.17? It is now worth $7.18. Can you imagine how the employees are laughing at the great joke Ken played? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: X|

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                  A couple of points:

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                  snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices

                  I thought pretty much everybody was of the opinion that BOA paid too much for ML. ML was, in fact, happy that it had got such a 'good' deal.

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                  due diligence

                  The deal was stitched together over a weekend, at the urging of the Fed. It would have been impossible for BOA to assess ML's books completely. I know they are required to, by law, but it simply wasn't possible in the available time.

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                  for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year

                  BOA lost money for Q4, not all of 2008.

                  Cheers, Vıkram.


                  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every moment of it.

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                    My fiancee's brother just went through this procedure. Turns out he has cancer. :( He's up for surgery this Wednesday. I hope he gets rid of it. He hasn't even turned 30!

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                    Detected early, chances of long-term survival are very high. It depends on the staging, histology, metastases or not... I hope everything goes well for him. When young (like he is and I am) this problem usually due to a genetic disorder (like a mutation in the APC tumour suppressor gene). It's been suggested that I undergo genetic testing, but I'm a little leary of privacy issues, etc...

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

                      ANother good reason to get rid of government I suppose.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      I'd rather be ruled by people I get to vote for/against. That's just me. :shrug:

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                        A couple of points:

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                        snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices

                        I thought pretty much everybody was of the opinion that BOA paid too much for ML. ML was, in fact, happy that it had got such a 'good' deal.

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                        due diligence

                        The deal was stitched together over a weekend, at the urging of the Fed. It would have been impossible for BOA to assess ML's books completely. I know they are required to, by law, but it simply wasn't possible in the available time.

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                        for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year

                        BOA lost money for Q4, not all of 2008.

                        Cheers, Vıkram.


                        I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every moment of it.

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                        everybody was of the opinion that BOA paid too much for ML

                        You're right. I should've made it clear that Ken Lewis was saying he didn't.

                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                        It would have been impossible for BOA to assess ML's books completely. I know they are required to, by law, but it simply wasn't possible in the available time.

                        Nor did they have to worry about it since we are around to give them any money they need.

                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                        BOA lost money for Q4, not all of 2008.

                        Dead right. I was remembering rather than re-reading. They say your memory is the second thing to go. . .:confused: I forget what the first is.

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                          Detected early, chances of long-term survival are very high. It depends on the staging, histology, metastases or not... I hope everything goes well for him. When young (like he is and I am) this problem usually due to a genetic disorder (like a mutation in the APC tumour suppressor gene). It's been suggested that I undergo genetic testing, but I'm a little leary of privacy issues, etc...

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                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          Detected early, chances of long-term survival are very high.

                          Good! And it's a good thing your health care isn't dependent on your employer. Oh wait, does that mean I am a socialist? :~

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                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            Detected early, chances of long-term survival are very high.

                            Good! And it's a good thing your health care isn't dependent on your employer. Oh wait, does that mean I am a socialist? :~

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                            Everyone's a socialist - or so Stan says. The worst part, besides the drinking 4 litres part, is the freaking waiting. Gah. I just want to get it over with. I hate sitting here twiddling my thumbs not knowing one way or the other. I suppose I should be thankful for modern medicine. If this was the early 20th century, I'd probably be dead already. Maybe I'll take up religion, or something. Heh.

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                              Everyone's a socialist - or so Stan says. The worst part, besides the drinking 4 litres part, is the freaking waiting. Gah. I just want to get it over with. I hate sitting here twiddling my thumbs not knowing one way or the other. I suppose I should be thankful for modern medicine. If this was the early 20th century, I'd probably be dead already. Maybe I'll take up religion, or something. Heh.

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                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              Everyone's a socialist - or so Stan says.

                              Even Thomas Jefferson and "his white trash friends." I'm assuming that includes George Washington, "Father of his Country," and James Madison, "Father of the Constitution." And that means I can assume I am in good company.

                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              I hate sitting here twiddling my thumbs not knowing one way or the other.

                              When do you get to have a decent meal?

                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              Maybe I'll take up religion, or something. Heh

                              Start one of your own. That was advice L. Ron Hubbard got from Robert Heinlein and it worked out pretty well for him.

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                              • O Oakman

                                73Zeppelin wrote:

                                Everyone's a socialist - or so Stan says.

                                Even Thomas Jefferson and "his white trash friends." I'm assuming that includes George Washington, "Father of his Country," and James Madison, "Father of the Constitution." And that means I can assume I am in good company.

                                73Zeppelin wrote:

                                I hate sitting here twiddling my thumbs not knowing one way or the other.

                                When do you get to have a decent meal?

                                73Zeppelin wrote:

                                Maybe I'll take up religion, or something. Heh

                                Start one of your own. That was advice L. Ron Hubbard got from Robert Heinlein and it worked out pretty well for him.

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                Even Thomas Jefferson and "his white trash friends." I'm assuming that includes George Washington, "Father of his Country," and James Madison, "Father of the Constitution." And that means I can assume I am in good company.

                                If one looks hard enough, one finds socialism in everything. You are definitely in good company.

                                Oakman wrote:

                                When do you get to have a decent meal?

                                Thursday, sometime after 12 pm. Until then I'm on a regimen. At any rate, it looks like I'm a teetotaler from here on out.

                                Oakman wrote:

                                Start one of your own. That was advice L. Ron Hubbard got from Robert Heinlein and it worked out pretty well for him.

                                I should think up something wacky that appeals to celebrities. That way the money is sure to flow. I just need something that can be left-field, trendy and expensive all simultaneously.

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Even Thomas Jefferson and "his white trash friends." I'm assuming that includes George Washington, "Father of his Country," and James Madison, "Father of the Constitution." And that means I can assume I am in good company.

                                  If one looks hard enough, one finds socialism in everything. You are definitely in good company.

                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  When do you get to have a decent meal?

                                  Thursday, sometime after 12 pm. Until then I'm on a regimen. At any rate, it looks like I'm a teetotaler from here on out.

                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Start one of your own. That was advice L. Ron Hubbard got from Robert Heinlein and it worked out pretty well for him.

                                  I should think up something wacky that appeals to celebrities. That way the money is sure to flow. I just need something that can be left-field, trendy and expensive all simultaneously.

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                                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                                  At any rate, it looks like I'm a teetotaler from here on out

                                  Well, that's not fun, but it's probably good for you generally as well as specifically.

                                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                                  I just need something that can be left-field, trendy and expensive all simultaneously.

                                  We need a Dionysian religion - maybe something with temple prostitutes.

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