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    Tony Richards
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    So I'm in the middle of reloading my laptop after a failed attempt at trying out Windows 7 (It loaded fine, and I was liking it... until my wireless driver repeatedly blue screened the damn thing...). I've got all of Toshiba's rubbish removed, and I go to install WMDC to sync my XDA. The website goes to check I have a valid copy of Windows (which I do), tries to install the Genuine Advantage thing, and then just stops... Great. So, I go to plan B, and try validate the alternate way... and get a 404 error on the website... Microsoft haven't even bothered to make it a helpful one, it's just a bog-standard (and possibly insecure?) IIS error... 404 Error.[^] Joy. Sometimes I wonder why I support Microsoft as much as I do... Edit: And just to annoy me some more, the XDA's original disk has vanished (admittedly not MS's fault, but still :mad:) Edit 2: It seems I'm not very clear... To clarify: irritation was aimed at MS's website (which, incidently, has now started working properly again) and the three hours I wasted trying to get one bit of software for Vista. I actually quite liked the Windows 7 Beta, and once Ralink release a compatible driver I'll try again. As for the disk, that was only to be used as an alternate source for the software MS wouldn't let me get at.

    My Blog: This Blog

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      So I'm in the middle of reloading my laptop after a failed attempt at trying out Windows 7 (It loaded fine, and I was liking it... until my wireless driver repeatedly blue screened the damn thing...). I've got all of Toshiba's rubbish removed, and I go to install WMDC to sync my XDA. The website goes to check I have a valid copy of Windows (which I do), tries to install the Genuine Advantage thing, and then just stops... Great. So, I go to plan B, and try validate the alternate way... and get a 404 error on the website... Microsoft haven't even bothered to make it a helpful one, it's just a bog-standard (and possibly insecure?) IIS error... 404 Error.[^] Joy. Sometimes I wonder why I support Microsoft as much as I do... Edit: And just to annoy me some more, the XDA's original disk has vanished (admittedly not MS's fault, but still :mad:) Edit 2: It seems I'm not very clear... To clarify: irritation was aimed at MS's website (which, incidently, has now started working properly again) and the three hours I wasted trying to get one bit of software for Vista. I actually quite liked the Windows 7 Beta, and once Ralink release a compatible driver I'll try again. As for the disk, that was only to be used as an alternate source for the software MS wouldn't let me get at.

      My Blog: This Blog

      modified on Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:21 PM

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      Jon Rista
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      Its a beta man...you took the risk, choice was yours, and I am guessing you knew the possabilities going in.

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      • T Tony Richards

        So I'm in the middle of reloading my laptop after a failed attempt at trying out Windows 7 (It loaded fine, and I was liking it... until my wireless driver repeatedly blue screened the damn thing...). I've got all of Toshiba's rubbish removed, and I go to install WMDC to sync my XDA. The website goes to check I have a valid copy of Windows (which I do), tries to install the Genuine Advantage thing, and then just stops... Great. So, I go to plan B, and try validate the alternate way... and get a 404 error on the website... Microsoft haven't even bothered to make it a helpful one, it's just a bog-standard (and possibly insecure?) IIS error... 404 Error.[^] Joy. Sometimes I wonder why I support Microsoft as much as I do... Edit: And just to annoy me some more, the XDA's original disk has vanished (admittedly not MS's fault, but still :mad:) Edit 2: It seems I'm not very clear... To clarify: irritation was aimed at MS's website (which, incidently, has now started working properly again) and the three hours I wasted trying to get one bit of software for Vista. I actually quite liked the Windows 7 Beta, and once Ralink release a compatible driver I'll try again. As for the disk, that was only to be used as an alternate source for the software MS wouldn't let me get at.

        My Blog: This Blog

        modified on Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:21 PM

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        JimmyRopes
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        Tony Richards wrote:

        Sometimes I wonder why I support Microsoft as much as I do...

        It pays well. :~

        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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          Its a beta man...you took the risk, choice was yours, and I am guessing you knew the possabilities going in.

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          Tony Richards
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          I'm not angry about the Beta. I'm cross that I can't get at the software I need to run for their current supported OS.

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          • T Tony Richards

            So I'm in the middle of reloading my laptop after a failed attempt at trying out Windows 7 (It loaded fine, and I was liking it... until my wireless driver repeatedly blue screened the damn thing...). I've got all of Toshiba's rubbish removed, and I go to install WMDC to sync my XDA. The website goes to check I have a valid copy of Windows (which I do), tries to install the Genuine Advantage thing, and then just stops... Great. So, I go to plan B, and try validate the alternate way... and get a 404 error on the website... Microsoft haven't even bothered to make it a helpful one, it's just a bog-standard (and possibly insecure?) IIS error... 404 Error.[^] Joy. Sometimes I wonder why I support Microsoft as much as I do... Edit: And just to annoy me some more, the XDA's original disk has vanished (admittedly not MS's fault, but still :mad:) Edit 2: It seems I'm not very clear... To clarify: irritation was aimed at MS's website (which, incidently, has now started working properly again) and the three hours I wasted trying to get one bit of software for Vista. I actually quite liked the Windows 7 Beta, and once Ralink release a compatible driver I'll try again. As for the disk, that was only to be used as an alternate source for the software MS wouldn't let me get at.

            My Blog: This Blog

            modified on Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:21 PM

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            Joe Woodbury
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            You lose the install disk for a badly written driver and blame Microsoft? Toshiba may make nice hardware, but their software sucks big time. If someone gave me a Toshiba, I'd sell it on eBay and buy something else.

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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              Its a beta man...you took the risk, choice was yours, and I am guessing you knew the possabilities going in.

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              leckey 0
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              That's why I always wait until the first service pack is released.

              Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                You lose the install disk for a badly written driver and blame Microsoft? Toshiba may make nice hardware, but their software sucks big time. If someone gave me a Toshiba, I'd sell it on eBay and buy something else.

                Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                Tony Richards
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                Err... I don't think you followed... The install disk was for my XDA (A handheld). I was going to use it instead of downloading the most up-to-date version of WMDC (the disk is a bit old), the software I am getting annoyed at not being able to get. As for the badly written driver, that's hardly Toshiba's fault. It was produced by Ralink, and incidently it's also not their fault it doesn't work under Windows 7, they've not exactly had ages to write one.

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                  You lose the install disk for a badly written driver and blame Microsoft? Toshiba may make nice hardware, but their software sucks big time. If someone gave me a Toshiba, I'd sell it on eBay and buy something else.

                  Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                  Luis Alonso Ramos
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                  Joe Woodbury wrote:

                  (Insert your preferred hardware brand here) may make nice hardware, but their software sucks big time.

                  I'll take HP and its printers! X| Somehow, any company that does something hardware-related well doesn't know how to do software. How can the "minimum install" for an HP printer be 371 MB?

                  Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico My Blog!

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                    Joe Woodbury wrote:

                    (Insert your preferred hardware brand here) may make nice hardware, but their software sucks big time.

                    I'll take HP and its printers! X| Somehow, any company that does something hardware-related well doesn't know how to do software. How can the "minimum install" for an HP printer be 371 MB?

                    Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico My Blog!

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                    I'll only buy HP printers, though I've only had two! My 4P lasted fourteen years! (My father-in-law and former business partner also had a 4P last more than 12 years.) Hopefully my P2015dn will last as long. But, you're right. The printer package for my P2015dn is not only huge, but includes a bunch of junk I don't need and aren't terribly well written. In the past, HP computers have been king of installing junk. Don't know if they're any better now.

                    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      I'll only buy HP printers, though I've only had two! My 4P lasted fourteen years! (My father-in-law and former business partner also had a 4P last more than 12 years.) Hopefully my P2015dn will last as long. But, you're right. The printer package for my P2015dn is not only huge, but includes a bunch of junk I don't need and aren't terribly well written. In the past, HP computers have been king of installing junk. Don't know if they're any better now.

                      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      Joe Woodbury wrote:

                      HP computers have been king of installing junk. Don't know if they're any better now.

                      No they are not. Removing the junk is the very first thing I do when setting up a HP.

                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                        That's why I always wait until the first service pack is released.

                        Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                        leckey wrote:

                        That's why I always wait until the first service pack is released.

                        Me too. I won't even touch a beta unless I am being paid to do so.

                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          Joe Woodbury wrote:

                          HP computers have been king of installing junk. Don't know if they're any better now.

                          No they are not. Removing the junk is the very first thing I do when setting up a HP.

                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          Luis Alonso Ramos
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                          JimmyRopes wrote:

                          Removing the junk is the very first thing I do when setting up a HP.

                          That's the very first thing I do when setting up any PC. Actually, I reformatted and reinstalled my last two computers from scratch. And Dells don't come with as much junk.

                          Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico My Blog!

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                            I'll only buy HP printers, though I've only had two! My 4P lasted fourteen years! (My father-in-law and former business partner also had a 4P last more than 12 years.) Hopefully my P2015dn will last as long. But, you're right. The printer package for my P2015dn is not only huge, but includes a bunch of junk I don't need and aren't terribly well written. In the past, HP computers have been king of installing junk. Don't know if they're any better now.

                            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                            Luis Alonso Ramos
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                            Joe Woodbury wrote:

                            I'll only buy HP printers, though I've only had two!

                            I've had a little more than two. From the top of my head I remember an Inkjet 560C, a 3650, a PSC 2510 and now two Officejet 2610 (at home and at the office). And I have recommended my customers many more HP (some big Laserjets). They work great, altough their cartidges are a bit expensive. But so far, I am one happy customer. But if we talk about their drivers, that's another story... Just downloading a half-a-gig file for the drivers is not nice. It's a good thing they at least inclueded a minimum driver-only installation.

                            Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico My Blog!

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