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JimmyRopes wrote:
Does he ever plan to move to LOS? If so he better be prepared to change the way he thinks about things. Nothing will be the same. Some of us adjust and some don't. The ones that don't are tortured soles not ever being accepted by the folks in the village. They end up going to ex-pat bars every day and drinking with other ex-pats. They are a pitiful lot.
Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Jimmy, If El Corazon's brother visits here only twice a year, there's no need, and little likelihood, he needs to change anything in the way he thinks, although my hope would be that at some point he gets a little more deeply interested in the history and culture of Thailand. I would say that "nothing is ever the same" in Thailand to begin with; what you lose, living in Thailand, if you are half-sober, and learn Thai to at least a level of "street fluency," and get rid of some of the mental-baggage of stereotypes that westerners have introjected, and make some real Thai friends who are educated and responsible ... is some of your arrogance, some of your ethnocentrism, and, hopefully, some of the superiority complex that makes you act as if you are entitled by virtue of being from what you think (without any real basis of comparison) is a third-world country culturally. Most expats (farangs) living here are not living in villages, but in hi-so (compared to most Thais) ghettoes surrounded by other farangs : Thai villages do not have "expat bars;" larger towns do. Many of the expats are simply, scum (in different flavours ranging from sex-fiends (gay and straight and god-knows-what) to alcholics, to self-destructive ex-alpha-males who are chasing the ghosts of testosterone past, and then we have expat women from Europe and America here to save dogs and cats on a "mission from God," missionaries on their mission from God," professional expat feminists who are here to "rescue" sex workers, etc.). And then there are many fine expats living here who have deep roots, have Thai families, have acculturated, are involved in humanitarian projects, actually read about and understand some of Thailand's remarkable history, or have some deep involvement in some aspect of Thai cultural life (whether Vipassana meditation, the arts, crafts, music, language). A remarkable number of former Peace Corps volunteers who did their field work in Thailand have come to live in Thailand permanently. Unfortunately the losers and failures, and their pathetic mis-adventures, get t
Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Bill; Where do you live in Thailand? My family lives in a little village, Ban LaBrg, Changwat Buriram, in Issan. When I was referring to ex-pat bars I was thinking of one (the only one) in Buriram Town (the provincial capital), approximately 15 Km from my village where there is a regular crew of mostly British ex-pats that pretty much don't associate with anyone else. I don't go there very often and don't stay for very long, but the faces never change. I suspect they come there every day and pretty much have the same conversations day after day. They are a sorry bunch who would rather drown their sorrows than go out and explore the countryside, as I like to do. In fact my family is always hearing stories about sightings of me heading off down some dirt track where no one would expect for me to venture. I also have a reputation around the village as the only farang who tries to learn the local Khmer dialect. Whenever anyone speaks to me in Thai I answer them in Khmer which goes over really well not only in my village but also the surrounding Khmer villages. The dialect I am learning is an older form of Khmer that has survived in isolation in the countryside, as opposed to the more modern Khmer spoken in Kampuchea. That is I speak Khmer out in the countryside. In Buriram town I speak Thai because most people there aren't Khmer and speak only Thai or Thai and Chinese.
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El Corazon wrote:
I need to look at a map sometime to find out where it is.
It is up in the North of Thailand, quite far from where I live in the Northeast. I do want to go there and to Chang Rai also some day but haven't had the opportunity yet. We usually head south to go to the shore when we travel.
El Corazon wrote:
I can never leave the country, so I don't bother dreaming
If it is not too personal why can't you leave the country?
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesokay, never is a bit strong. As long as I work here, or until policy changes. Current policy forbids me from travelling outside the US, that includes Canada or Mexico. It used to be you had to give 3 months notice in writing, and submit to debrief within 3 days upon return, but right now all travel is forbidden until the policy changes.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
Please let your brother know he's welcome to PM me at any time through you if there's anything I can ever do in Thailand to help him (I've lived here over ten years).
I'd never wish him on anyone, her or you, she made her choice. If she is smart enough to limit seeing him to 3 to 6 weeks a year, I would suggest the same to anyone, minus 3 to 6 weeks a year. :-D
El Corazon wrote:
If she is smart enough to limit seeing him to 3 to 6 weeks a year, I would suggest the same to anyone, minus 3 to 6 weeks a year.
Sorry to hear that. :sigh:
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okay, never is a bit strong. As long as I work here, or until policy changes. Current policy forbids me from travelling outside the US, that includes Canada or Mexico. It used to be you had to give 3 months notice in writing, and submit to debrief within 3 days upon return, but right now all travel is forbidden until the policy changes.
El Corazon wrote:
Current policy forbids me from travelling outside the US, that includes Canada or Mexico. It used to be you had to give 3 months notice in writing, and submit to debrief within 3 days upon return, but right now all travel is forbidden until the policy changes.
Wow, a bit restrictive. Are you blue or green? I don't know if I would work under those conditions because I like to travel so much. Then again I probably wouldn't be hired there because I have traveled so much, especially to communist countries like Laos and Vietnam, and have a foreign wife and family. :doh:
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
So, are we concluding that it's all because he's your brother?
Yup, guilty as charged. Except he came first by a year and a month. If I knew where I was coming out I never would have. :-D
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El Corazon wrote:
If I knew where I was coming out I never would have.
Like you had that option. :-D But, I feel your pain. *Hug* Now that you're out anyways, make the most out of it. :)
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El Corazon wrote:
Current policy forbids me from travelling outside the US, that includes Canada or Mexico. It used to be you had to give 3 months notice in writing, and submit to debrief within 3 days upon return, but right now all travel is forbidden until the policy changes.
Wow, a bit restrictive. Are you blue or green? I don't know if I would work under those conditions because I like to travel so much. Then again I probably wouldn't be hired there because I have traveled so much, especially to communist countries like Laos and Vietnam, and have a foreign wife and family. :doh:
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Are you blue or green?
depends on what I eat. :)
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El Corazon wrote:
If I knew where I was coming out I never would have.
Like you had that option. :-D But, I feel your pain. *Hug* Now that you're out anyways, make the most out of it. :)
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Now that you're out anyways, make the most out of it. Smile
I did. He lives in Texas, me in NM. :)
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JimmyRopes wrote:
Are you blue or green?
depends on what I eat. :)
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El Corazon wrote:
JimmyRopes wrote:Are you blue or green? depends on what I eat.
Fair enough. :laugh:
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BillWoodruff wrote:
Please let your brother know he's welcome to PM me at any time through you if there's anything I can ever do in Thailand to help him (I've lived here over ten years).
I'd never wish him on anyone, her or you, she made her choice. If she is smart enough to limit seeing him to 3 to 6 weeks a year, I would suggest the same to anyone, minus 3 to 6 weeks a year. :-D
El Corazon wrote:
I'd never wish him on anyone, her
Well, we both have good intentions :) best, Bill
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El Corazon wrote:
I'd never wish him on anyone, her
Well, we both have good intentions :) best, Bill
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BillWoodruff wrote:
Well, we both have good intentions
yup, points for good intentions. :) supposedly he has changed, he has not tried to kill me since he and I left home. Still, every now and then when I accidentally visit when he does (or my mother tries to set it so we see each other), I try to avoid the subject but he still wants me to agree that he had full justification for each of the times he tried to kill me. :rolleyes:
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