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  • B Baconbutty

    I prefer to spell correctly rather than use US "English". What happens when you have to write with pen and paper and you have no access to a computer?

    My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"

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    Jacquers
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    Baconbutty wrote:

    What happens when you have to write with pen and paper and you have no access to a computer?

    Precisely the point I was trying to make, people get so used to spell checkers that they can't spell anymore without them.

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    • B Baconbutty

      I prefer to spell correctly rather than use US "English". What happens when you have to write with pen and paper and you have no access to a computer?

      My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"

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      JimmyRopes
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      Baconbutty wrote:

      I prefer to spell correctly rather than use US "English".

      Baconbutty wrote:

      US "English"

      We don't speak English in the US we speak Amerlish. :doh:

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      • J Jacquers

        Who needs to be able to spell when you have spell checkers built into almost every application these days? ;P

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        Gary Wheeler
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        When there are multiple spellings for a given word, you need to be able to recognize the correct one. Most spelling checkers use a 'sound-alike' algorithm to suggest words that resemble the one you typed. Unfortunately, many of the suggestions have nothing to do with the word you are trying to use. Pick the wrong one, and the meaning of your message is dramatically altered.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        • G Gary Wheeler

          When there are multiple spellings for a given word, you need to be able to recognize the correct one. Most spelling checkers use a 'sound-alike' algorithm to suggest words that resemble the one you typed. Unfortunately, many of the suggestions have nothing to do with the word you are trying to use. Pick the wrong one, and the meaning of your message is dramatically altered.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          Anthony Mushrow
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          And some of these algorithms are quite poor. Chrome for example, you accidentally press a key in the middle of the word, and it gets very confused, suggesting words that are quite different than the intended. If you where to pick the recommendations that it gives then you would have some very strange messages indeed.

          My current favourite word is: Delicious!

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            And some of these algorithms are quite poor. Chrome for example, you accidentally press a key in the middle of the word, and it gets very confused, suggesting words that are quite different than the intended. If you where to pick the recommendations that it gives then you would have some very strange messages indeed.

            My current favourite word is: Delicious!

            -SK Genius

            Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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            Gary Wheeler
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            It's surprising that Chrome is that bad. I use Thunderbird at home, and it's pretty good at catching typos. Just about the time I'm ready to back up and fix one, it's already done so, in a nice and unobtrusive fashion. It's the first time I've not disabled a spelling checker in disgust. Microsoft Word 2007, for example. You would think, after spending a bazillion dollars developing the thing, they would have a spelling checker that could handle technical documentation. Nope.

            Software Zen: delete this;

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            • D Dalek Dave

              We've known it for years! See Here[^] They also have trouble with words like Colour, Neighbour and Diet. (I really checked this for spelling before posting! I did not wish to be hoist with my own petard.)

              ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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              Chris Losinger
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              the headline of that article is unsupported by the text. nowhere in the article did they show an example of a single American who is embarrassed by the results. :laugh:

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                We've known it for years! See Here[^] They also have trouble with words like Colour, Neighbour and Diet. (I really checked this for spelling before posting! I did not wish to be hoist with my own petard.)

                ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

                modified on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:26 AM

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                And if you grab another set of individuals, it could swing the other way. BTW, I'm not embarrassed at all regarding my spelling of "color" or "neighbor". If you have a problem with it, I can accommodate you regarding a liaison to osculate my anal pore.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  the headline of that article is unsupported by the text. nowhere in the article did they show an example of a single American who is embarrassed by the results. :laugh:

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                  realJSOP
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                  That's because it seems that the brits are the only ones that seem to be hung up on the spelling of "color" and "neighbor". It's a statistics thing. This is an annual event where the brits are self-confounded by our spelling habits. It's like a great big spelling capacitor. After a year, so much energy has been spent trying to figure us out that their editorial writers explode in a fit of "Why the yanks are wrong".

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  • G Gary Wheeler

                    It's surprising that Chrome is that bad. I use Thunderbird at home, and it's pretty good at catching typos. Just about the time I'm ready to back up and fix one, it's already done so, in a nice and unobtrusive fashion. It's the first time I've not disabled a spelling checker in disgust. Microsoft Word 2007, for example. You would think, after spending a bazillion dollars developing the thing, they would have a spelling checker that could handle technical documentation. Nope.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                    It's surprising that Chrome is that bad.

                    Why is it surprising? It's Chrome.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                      It's surprising that Chrome is that bad.

                      Why is it surprising? It's Chrome.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      I was under the impression that everyone thought Chrome was the shiznits, the best thing since sliced bread and hot buttered sex...

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • G Gary Wheeler

                        I was under the impression that everyone thought Chrome was the shiznits, the best thing since sliced bread and hot buttered sex...

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Chrome is Chrap. There is absolutely no reason for it to exist.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Chrome is Chrap. There is absolutely no reason for it to exist.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          That's true of 99.997% of the stuff on the Internet, if you interpret Sturgeon's Law[^] for the web.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            That's because it seems that the brits are the only ones that seem to be hung up on the spelling of "color" and "neighbor". It's a statistics thing. This is an annual event where the brits are self-confounded by our spelling habits. It's like a great big spelling capacitor. After a year, so much energy has been spent trying to figure us out that their editorial writers explode in a fit of "Why the yanks are wrong".

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            There is that, it is true. But bad spelling leads to bad grammar and bad grammar lead to misunderestimation. It is the way of the force.

                            ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              And if you grab another set of individuals, it could swing the other way. BTW, I'm not embarrassed at all regarding my spelling of "color" or "neighbor". If you have a problem with it, I can accommodate you regarding a liaison to osculate my anal pore.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Dalek Dave
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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              I'm not embarrassed at all regarding my spelling of "color" or "neigh

                              No problem, it is the way the US spell things, but even within the spelling restraints of the US there are sure to be bad spellers. I have one MAJOR pita though. I read books written by American Authors who use DOVE as the past participle of DIVE. As in 'He dove under the table' DIVED for FSM's sake! It doesn't even sound right. OK rant about that now complete.

                              ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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                              • G Gary Wheeler

                                That's true of 99.997% of the stuff on the Internet, if you interpret Sturgeon's Law[^] for the web.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                Dalek Dave
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                                Sounds similar to the Coulter Postulation. "There is no occurance of the word Local where it cannot be replaced with the word Crap and still the truth remains"

                                ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  We've known it for years! See Here[^] They also have trouble with words like Colour, Neighbour and Diet. (I really checked this for spelling before posting! I did not wish to be hoist with my own petard.)

                                  ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

                                  modified on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:26 AM

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                                  Zhat
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                                  62% to 54%? Is that like saying he's stupid, but the other guys a bit more stupid? Well, I'm not the least embarassed as I may not spell everything correct, but I have nice teeth.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    We've known it for years! See Here[^] They also have trouble with words like Colour, Neighbour and Diet. (I really checked this for spelling before posting! I did not wish to be hoist with my own petard.)

                                    ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

                                    modified on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:26 AM

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                                    Tad McClellan
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                                    I am the walking embodiment of this. I can't spell for s!@#. We wife, however, would wipe the floor with just about anyone when it comes to spelling.

                                    TadMcClellan.Com

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                                    • G Gary Wheeler

                                      That's true of 99.997% of the stuff on the Internet, if you interpret Sturgeon's Law[^] for the web.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                      Sturgeon's Law

                                      Ted Sturgeon's wife wrote a preface to one of his books in which she talked about what a terrible speller he was. She made the case that many of the most creative authors she knew, likewise, were terrible at spelling.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        We've known it for years! See Here[^] They also have trouble with words like Colour, Neighbour and Diet. (I really checked this for spelling before posting! I did not wish to be hoist with my own petard.)

                                        ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

                                        modified on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:26 AM

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                                        BECAUSE WE ARE STILL BEARING SOME OF THE SCARS OF OUR BRIEF SKIRMISH with II-B English, it is natural that we should be enchanted by Mr. George Bernard Shaw's current campaign for a simplified alphabet. Obviously, as Mr. Shaw points out, English spelling is in much need of a general overhauling and streamlining. However, our own resistance to any changes requiring a large expenditure of mental effort in the near future would cause us to view with some apprehension the possibility of some day receiving a morning paper printed in-to us-Greek. Our own plan would achieve the same end as the legislation proposed by Mr. Shaw, but in a less shocking manner, as it consists merely of an acceleration of the normal processes by which the language is continually modernized. As a catalytic agent, we would suggest that a National Easy Language Week be proclaimed, which the President would inaugurate, outlining some short cut to concentrate on during the week, and to be adopted during the ensuing year. All school children would be given a holiday, the lost time being the equivalent of that gained by the spelling short cut. In 1946, for example, we would urge the elimination of the soft c, for which we would substitute "s." Sertainly, such an improvement would be selebrated in all sivic-minded sircles as being suffisiently worth the trouble, and students in all sities in the land would be reseptive to- ward any change eliminating the nesessity of learning the differense be- tween the two letters. In 1947, sinse only the hard "c" would be left, it would be possible to substitute "k" for it, both letters being pronounsed identikally. Imagine how greatly only two years of this prosess would klarify the konfusion in the minds of students. Already we would have eliminated an entire letter from the alphabet. Typewriters and linotypes, kould all be built with one less letter, and a11 the manpower and materials previously devoted to making "c's" kould be turned toward raising the national standard of living. In the fase of so many notable improvements, it is easy to foresee that by 1948, "National Easy Language Week" would be a pronounsed sukses. All skhool tshildren would be looking forward with konsiderable exsitement to the holiday, and in a blaze of national publisity it would be announsed that the double konsonant "ph" no longer existed, and that the sound would henseforth be written "f" in all words, This would make sutsh words as "fonograf" twenty persent shorter in print. By

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                                        • B Baconbutty

                                          I prefer to spell correctly rather than use US "English". What happens when you have to write with pen and paper and you have no access to a computer?

                                          My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"

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                                          John M Drescher
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                                          As a 37 year old I can not do that any more. The pain in the fingers would be excruciating. Much easier to type and no pain there.

                                          John

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