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[Oakman]

Bassam Saoud wrote:

funny like always Oakman

Thanks for the laughter, but I hope you understand that I was telling the absolute truth. In fact, it wasn't until about 1900 that hospitals started operating in the manner in which they do now, including adopting standards of antisepsis. Indeed, until 1920, the majority of surgery (by now conducted by M.D.'s) happened in the patient's home. X| What Stan doesn't seem to understand is that the chief cost associated with illness before the 1920's was not the cost of medical care, but rather the fact that sick people couldn't work and didn't get paid. A 1919 study conducted by the State of Illinois reported that lost wages due to sickness were four times larger than the medical expenditures associated with treating the illness. So "sickness insurance," (pretty much the same thing as disability insurance these days) was what people bought, not "health insurance."

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

Which would be what - anal sex? Abortions?

That's hardly an exhausive list of what is none of the state's business, even though, once again, you fixate on anal sex. (Did you have a really traumatic shoreleave in San Francisco?) What I find most curious is that you seem to wish with all your heart for unrestrained capitalism with the no checks, bounds, or ameleration by the state - at the same time praying for a government that will insure you will never confront an idea or act that you personally disapprove of.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Dan Neely]

Are you old enough to remember Clinton - Bush 2? Or Bush1 - Clinton?

Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

[CSS_Shadow]

Yes.

[Synaptrik]

BoneSoft wrote:

Why national leaders can't just sit down and talk like adults is beyond me.

Human nature. Take our soapbox for example. If its a person that the group dislikes, content is irrelevant. Government heads are no different. Like the joke Dan posted. Heads of state are a lot like siblings squabbling. To focused on their own wants. And, if they don't like the opposition, content becomes irrelevant.

This statement is false

[Oakman]

Mike Gaskey wrote:

we now simply whine.

I would have thought you'd be more of a beer man, myself

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Al Beback]

Stan Shannon wrote:

christian charity

How much do you contribute to that? What if christian charity decides that it will only help me if I'm christian?

ShamWow

[Al Beback]

Christian Graus wrote:

Yeah, Cuba would be in exactly the same state of poverty if it was allowed to import medicines, etc. The US has nothing to do with it.

Actually Christian, Cuba is free to import its goods from any country in the world, except the US. It merely uses the US embargo as another excuse to keep its people poor, oppressed, and in fear. It's proof positive that unilateral sanctions don't actually work -- ruthless dictators will always find ways to stay in power. 50 years without elections! X|

ShamWow

[Stan Shannon]

Al Beback wrote:

How much do you contribute to that?

Thats my business, but I'm in good standing at my church at least on that issue.

Al Beback wrote:

What if christian charity decides that it will only help me if I'm christian?

Well that wouldn't be very Christian. But it would not at all be inappropriate for the charity to be predicated on certain behavioral expectations.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[BoneSoft]

Yes. But you would think that of those that rise to the highest levels of government in a nation would at least be adults, if not more adult than most. Course you'd be wrong, but it makes no sense.

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