2nd Amendment rights under attack in the House

Doctor Nick

At what point do any of these things keep you from actually owning a firearm? It isn't my right to know the psycho down the street has one? That's all these measures would do. Worried the men in black suits will come and take them from you?

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modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:35 PM

Mike Gaskey · modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:35 PM

Doctor Nick wrote:

At what point do any of these things keep you from actually owning a firearm?

(E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

Doctor Nick wrote:

Worried the men in black suits will come and take them from you?

not at all, I have a 16 guage to handle that very problem.

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

BoneSoft · modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:35 PM

All the legislature aimed at guns over the years are measures to make it harder and harder to get or keep a gun. They know they can't ban them outright, at least with current opinions, so chip away until that opinion changes. A better question would be, what good do these measures do? How do they improve anything? Why don't they first do a similar bill for people wanting to install a swimming pool, or stairs, or electrical outlets? Pools kill about 1,000 times as many children every year. Last I saw, the average child deaths per year from guns was about 10. This bill has nothing to do with safety, it has everything to do with gun rights.

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BoneSoft · modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:35 PM

Doctor Nick wrote:

It isn't my right to know the psycho down the street has one?

Do I have a "right" to know what you do and do not have in your house? Is that what's next? How about your browsing history, do I have a right to look at that too? What about a list of the books you've read, what your diet is, what you do with your money? Actually, I almost forgot, some of that's coming in the health care junk shoved into the "stimulus" bill that's about to pass without anybody seeing it before hand. However, Texas has been looking at a law that will allow you to carry unconcealed. There are some good arguments for letting everybody know up front that you have a gun. But you sure don't have a "right" to know if I have one, and it will be a sad day for liberty when you do.

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MrPlankton · modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:35 PM

I noticed your a vb programmer.

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Doctor Nick

I'd be happy if people knew I had one or not. It would make it easier to deter thieves which might be on the rise thanks to unemployment. Oh, wait, we elected them all to office already. Scratch that. :-D I was just playing devil's advocate. I'm kind of with Mike. Keep one handy in case they come for it and make sure they don't repeal the amendment without any conversation and a DAMN good reason (of which I can't think of any at this point). I do however see the use to having courses in gun saftey before purchase. That just makes sense to me. How many kids have blown their head off because they found dads revolver in the closet?

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Rob Graham · modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:35 PM

Doctor Nick wrote:

It isn't my right to know the psycho down the street has one?

No, no more than it's my right to know any private info about you. What good, exactly, would it do for you to know? Would it stop you from treating him in a manner that you likely should not in any case? It's nothing more government intrusion for intrusion's sake, no different than warrant-less wiretapping.

Doctor Nick

Hey, it's keeping me employed so far. I'm trying to lobby for C# when everything gets converted. In the meantime I have side projects I consult for in my free time in C#. Now go kick some puppies or something rather than troll here.

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Doctor Nick

True, that is the ever important "we can't tell you until we do it" clause. I notice those in a lot of recent legislation. I might need to upgrade the arsenal a bit now that I think of it... :)

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Doctor Nick

Guess I should have put the joke icon on first like I was meaning to... :) As I said above however I do see the value in mandated safety training. It makes sense to me because more people who have never seen a firearm up close are getting them and end up with dead kids because they don't care for them properly. Just going for the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately they don't realize you can't legislate against stupidity and Darwinism must take over at some point ;P

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BoneSoft

Doctor Nick wrote:

I do however see the use to having courses in gun saftey before purchase.

Absolutely, nothing wrong with that. As long as the government's envolvement ends at requiring sellers to require a course before sale.

Doctor Nick wrote:

How many kids have blown their head off because they found dads revolver in the closet?

Damn few in the grand scheme of things. Of course one is one too many, but there are myriad more pressing issues dealing with childrens safety these days.

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BoneSoft

I was caught in a similar job a while back. Problem was, this massive VB web project didn't want to convert to C#. As far as I know they're still running that VB.Net, framework 1.1 app. :doh:

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led mike

BoneSoft wrote:

but there are myriad more pressing issues dealing with childrens safety these days.

Indeed! Kidnappers and Molesters for example. We certainly need to put far more effort into dealing with those monsters than we need to put towards gun control.

led mike

Mike Gaskey wrote:

the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;

After the last couple of those assholes we had I wouldn't trust one as far as I can spit.

BoneSoft

You're making sense, are you being sarcastic perchance?

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led mike

BoneSoft wrote:

are you being sarcastic perchance?

Nope.

BoneSoft

Then my apologies. I didn't want to say anything if you weren't, but it's near impossible to tell sometimes.

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BoneSoft

How about this[^]? Looks like it's already possibly under attack in the Porkulus bill.

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Dan Neely · modified on Friday, February 13, 2009 12:35 PM

It's simple you implement it the way the Peoples Republic of Tassachusetts has. Have a very small number of seats in the required class and arrange that they're all filled by politically connected/anti-gun people; before announcing the date/times to the general public.

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led mike

BoneSoft wrote:

but it's near impossible to tell sometimes.

Yeah, I know, that's on me. I try to keep that in mind when reading replies. I love to see the humor in things whenever possible. These days it seems there is a lot of material around. While I might joke about what I would like to do to perpetrators I don't believe I would joke about the victims. Child Molesters (anyone that preys on children), Rapists or any violence against women, Terrorists are all the scum of the earth for me. Sure there are others but those just cause my blood to boil.