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  • S Stan Shannon

    Nope. There were indeed many units that saw combat in all the services. But joining the Air Force or Navy or coast guard was a pretty safe ticket. And even in the Army and Marines, if you joined rather than being drafted there were any number of non-combat arms MOS's you could choose. Getting out of combat duty was not all that difficult. In fact, considering all the available alternatives, letting yourself get drafted was almost a form of volunteering for combat.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    Oakman
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    Stan Shannon wrote:

    Getting out of combat duty was not all that difficult

    But a lot of men still had a pair of balls - in all the services.

    Stan Shannon wrote:

    In fact, considering all the available alternatives, letting yourself get drafted was almost a form of volunteering for combat.

    Twasn't always that easy to tell the difference. When the punk kid on the scooter drove by he was as likely to throw the grenade at a company clerk as at a Green Beanie.

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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      He will implement his policies through the courts not through legislation

      You seem to have gotten that wrong. They're already talking about the mortgage-bailout bill.

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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      Oakman wrote:

      They're already talking about the mortgage-bailout bill.

      And already passed SCHIP and Stimulus and Ledbetter, all without a single court hearing. Rarely has Stan been so wrong so frequently about so many things. He used to be a relatively intelligent bloke before the madness set in. It's a shame to see such mental deterioration in one so young.

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      • J JimmyRopes

        Stan Shannon wrote:

        So,basically, you're saying that it is entirely appropriate that the freedom loving people of Iraq should be killing the evil American troops, and that you are taking their side against your own country. We need a word in the English language that describes such an attitude

        Sedition, betrayal, treason, and disloyalty come to mind. :rolleyes:

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        Ed Gadziemski
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        Fuck you asshole.

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        • E Ed Gadziemski

          Fuck you asshole.

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          Got your panties in a bunch Ed? :rolleyes:

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            Got your panties in a bunch Ed? :rolleyes:

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            Depends on if you were applying "Sedition, betrayal, treason, and disloyalty come to mind" to me or were merely helping Stan learn a few new synonyms.

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              Depends on if you were applying "Sedition, betrayal, treason, and disloyalty come to mind" to me or were merely helping Stan learn a few new synonyms.

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              Ed Gadziemski wrote:

              Depends on if you were applying "Sedition, betrayal, treason, and disloyalty come to mind" to me or were merely helping Stan learn a few new synonyms.

              Depends on if what Stan said about you, "So,basically, you're saying that it is entirely appropriate that the freedom loving people of Iraq should be killing the evil American troops, and that you are taking their side against your own country.", is how you feel.

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                Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                Depends on if you were applying "Sedition, betrayal, treason, and disloyalty come to mind" to me or were merely helping Stan learn a few new synonyms.

                Depends on if what Stan said about you, "So,basically, you're saying that it is entirely appropriate that the freedom loving people of Iraq should be killing the evil American troops, and that you are taking their side against your own country.", is how you feel.

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                What Stan says is immaterial. Stan is insane. If you have 3rd grade or above reading comprehension and a basic grasp of logic and bothered to read the thread, you know how I feel. If not, then welcome to Stan World.

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                • E Ed Gadziemski

                  What Stan says is immaterial. Stan is insane. If you have 3rd grade or above reading comprehension and a basic grasp of logic and bothered to read the thread, you know how I feel. If not, then welcome to Stan World.

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                  This thread is too boring to read further than what I have already read. Why don't you tell me how you feel? Are you in favor of Iraqis fragging US troops?

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                  • J JimmyRopes

                    This thread is too boring to read further than what I have already read. Why don't you tell me how you feel? Are you in favor of Iraqis fragging US troops?

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                    Ed Gadziemski
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                    Kiss off punk. Nice to know ya.

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                    • E Ed Gadziemski

                      Kiss off punk. Nice to know ya.

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                      You call me a punk but have you ever fought in a war? I have and don't like people like you mouthing off when you have no idea what it is like to be on the firing line. It doesn’t matter what you think about the war. To wish the troops harm is sedition.

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                      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                        I applaud the volumes of logic, truth and reality in that post regardless of whether or not it was wasted on Stan.

                        RichardM1 wrote:

                        There are Iraqis who believed their country was being run correctly prior to the US entering it.

                        The bulk of Iraqis hated Saddam like the pox that he was, but every Iraqi I know without exception was against the US invasion for 2 reasons. 1. Everyone knew that a power vacuum would result which will cause everyone and their cousin to try and stake claims to "ruling" Iraq and cashing in on it. 2. The advocated concept of that change must come from within. I personally lay the loss of every American, so called coalition of the willing, and Iraqi that died or was maimed as a direct or indirect act of the war at the feet of the Bush administration. I don't know what the intent of purposely lying to the American public and the world at large by stating that they had incontrovertible evidence that he had WMDs and was planning on using them to harm the US. Why the lie? Oil? That certainly might be one objective, but I doubt its the only one. I do not claim to know what other advantage they might have gotten. Many will argue against my thoughts, particularly Stan.

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                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                        I don't know what the intent of purposely lying to the American public and the world at large by stating that they had incontrovertible evidence that he had WMDs and was planning on using them to harm the US.

                        You need to admit the difference between lying and only believing what you want. If you do not/are not willing to admit it, than you are lying every bit as much as you believe Bush was.

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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                          Just non-Americans. There have been postings here from CP member citizens of the good old US of A condemning those "flawed" reports of WMD and the assumption that oil was the primary reason for GulfWarII. Are all these American CP members putting or agreeing a "ludicrous allegations" charge without a foundation to base their charges upon

                          Even if they disagree with its policies, any patriotic American should be willing to allow our system to work the way it was designed to work without publically promoting arguments which basically say - "Our government is evil, you are right to be killing our troops." If the president overstepts the bounds of his authority, it is the duty of congress to take actions against him. They have every power they need to do that. If enough citizens demand that of their congressman, it would happen. That is the way it is supposed to be done. To wage a proganda war against a commander in chief while troops are committed legally to battle without such appropriate legal actions being taken, is purely a political ploy to regain power at the expense of those troops, and it is most certainly treason by any definition of the word.

                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                          Obama is a siting president engaged in a legal war. You are doing the same type of vilification of Obama as others did to Bush.

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                            I don't know what the intent of purposely lying to the American public and the world at large by stating that they had incontrovertible evidence that he had WMDs and was planning on using them to harm the US.

                            You need to admit the difference between lying and only believing what you want. If you do not/are not willing to admit it, than you are lying every bit as much as you believe Bush was.

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            I admit there is quite a difference.

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                              Obama is a siting president engaged in a legal war. You are doing the same type of vilification of Obama as others did to Bush.

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                              Stan Shannon
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                              RichardM1 wrote:

                              You are doing the same type of vilification of Obama as others did to Bush.

                              When?

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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