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  • J Jim Crafton

    Considering that the simple test I ran on VS10 of a simple C++ class with a one member method and one or two member variables all defined in a single .cpp file *FAILED* to bring up intellisense at all, I'd have to say the latter half of the article is total bullshit. It sounds like what they need to do is fire most of the VC++ related team and hire some people who know what they are doing.

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    Shog9 0
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    Eh, according to the article it doesn't sound like the stuff they're working on is in current CTPs at all...

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      Mark Hall, an architect in the Visual C++ group, made this recent post about C++ intellisense in Dev10: ...if you loved C++ intellisense in VC6, you’ll love C++ intellisense in Dev10. But if you hated C++ intellisense in VC6 (header edits pegging the CPU, large projects hanging the system, results consistently wrong, tiny errors resulting in no intellisense at all, templates and namespaces unhandled), then you’ll really love C++ intellisense in Dev10! More here: http://blogs.msdn.com/vcblog/archive/2009/01/27/dev10-is-just-the-beginning.aspx[^] I found this when searching for changes in the F1-help in Dev10. Anyone know of any info on that?

      Best wishes, Hans


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      Stuart Dootson
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      I have a feeling I will love Intellisense in VS2010...once I install a compatible version of Visual Assist[^], as with all other versions of Visual Studio!

      Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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      • S Stuart Dootson

        I have a feeling I will love Intellisense in VS2010...once I install a compatible version of Visual Assist[^], as with all other versions of Visual Studio!

        Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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        Rob Graham
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        As long as there's a way to disable the "normal" intellisense.

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          As long as there's a way to disable the "normal" intellisense.

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          Stuart Dootson
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          There has been in the previous versions of Visual Assist...fingers crossed!

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          • J Jim Crafton

            Considering that the simple test I ran on VS10 of a simple C++ class with a one member method and one or two member variables all defined in a single .cpp file *FAILED* to bring up intellisense at all, I'd have to say the latter half of the article is total bullshit. It sounds like what they need to do is fire most of the VC++ related team and hire some people who know what they are doing.

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            Jim Crafton wrote:

            It sounds like what they need to do is fire most of the VC++ related team and hire some people who know what they are doing.

            That's not really fair - VC++ people are responsible for the compiler and libraries, not the IDE.

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              Eh, according to the article it doesn't sound like the stuff they're working on is in current CTPs at all...

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              Joe Woodbury
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              My experience with VS betas are that the C++ lagged everything else by at least one [dev] "release", sometimes more. Unfortunately, this includes the actual release.

              Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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              • S Stuart Dootson

                I have a feeling I will love Intellisense in VS2010...once I install a compatible version of Visual Assist[^], as with all other versions of Visual Studio!

                Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                Joe Woodbury
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                Which baffles me; why doesn't Microsoft just license Visual Assist? (Rhetorical question: Microsoft would actually buy some half-baked, crappy company that claimed to do the same thing. Besides, doing the obvious is just not Microsoft's style--if someone can't write an indecipherable PhD thesis on it, they won't do it.

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                • J Joe Woodbury

                  My experience with VS betas are that the C++ lagged everything else by at least one [dev] "release", sometimes more. Unfortunately, this includes the actual release.

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                  Joe Woodbury wrote:

                  Unfortunately, this includes the actual release.

                  :sigh: Yeah...

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                  • S Stuart Dootson

                    I have a feeling I will love Intellisense in VS2010...once I install a compatible version of Visual Assist[^], as with all other versions of Visual Studio!

                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                    I'm absolutely loving the trial version, the only thing that bothers me about it is the automatic bracket closing and I can't find out how to turn off the bugger!

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                    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                      I'm absolutely loving the trial version, the only thing that bothers me about it is the automatic bracket closing and I can't find out how to turn off the bugger!

                      Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


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                      Stuart Dootson
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                      That's one of my favourite features of Visual Assist, TextMate (Mac editor) and e (Windows equivalent of TextMate) - except they'll close quotes, braces, brackets and others. That and the automatic insertion of brackets when you add a function call through completion (Visual Assist) and surrounding a selection with brackets, quotes or braces.

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                      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                        I'm absolutely loving the trial version, the only thing that bothers me about it is the automatic bracket closing and I can't find out how to turn off the bugger!

                        Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


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                        in the VA menu in VC++: Advanced->corrections->uncheck "Insert () and closing })]'" We call VA programming crack around here... :D

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                          That's one of my favourite features of Visual Assist, TextMate (Mac editor) and e (Windows equivalent of TextMate) - except they'll close quotes, braces, brackets and others. That and the automatic insertion of brackets when you add a function call through completion (Visual Assist) and surrounding a selection with brackets, quotes or braces.

                          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                          Maybe I should start getting used to it... The first thing I do when I setup eclipse is to turn it off.

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                            in the VA menu in VC++: Advanced->corrections->uncheck "Insert () and closing })]'" We call VA programming crack around here... :D

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            Cheers!

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                            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                              I'm absolutely loving the trial version, the only thing that bothers me about it is the automatic bracket closing and I can't find out how to turn off the bugger!

                              Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


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                              feline_dracoform
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                              Try turning off the option: VA Options -> Advanced -> Correction -> insert () and closing } ) ] ' " easy when you know how :)

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                              • J Jim Crafton

                                Considering that the simple test I ran on VS10 of a simple C++ class with a one member method and one or two member variables all defined in a single .cpp file *FAILED* to bring up intellisense at all, I'd have to say the latter half of the article is total bullshit. It sounds like what they need to do is fire most of the VC++ related team and hire some people who know what they are doing.

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                                Thank God we have C# ;)

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                                  Mark Hall, an architect in the Visual C++ group, made this recent post about C++ intellisense in Dev10: ...if you loved C++ intellisense in VC6, you’ll love C++ intellisense in Dev10. But if you hated C++ intellisense in VC6 (header edits pegging the CPU, large projects hanging the system, results consistently wrong, tiny errors resulting in no intellisense at all, templates and namespaces unhandled), then you’ll really love C++ intellisense in Dev10! More here: http://blogs.msdn.com/vcblog/archive/2009/01/27/dev10-is-just-the-beginning.aspx[^] I found this when searching for changes in the F1-help in Dev10. Anyone know of any info on that?

                                  Best wishes, Hans


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                                  etkid84
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                                  Sense4Unintell who really needs that sort of thing anyway?

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                                  • S Stuart Dootson

                                    I have a feeling I will love Intellisense in VS2010...once I install a compatible version of Visual Assist[^], as with all other versions of Visual Studio!

                                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                                    jonty2
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                                    Yeah! Go VisualAssist! I love that tool. I particularly love their VA Outline pane - makes grokking a file *so* much quicker! (P.S. - I still don't get why people prefer 6 over 2005/2008 versions of the IDE ... I think they must have .NET/C# profiled install instead of a C++ one :^) )

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