That'll Learn 'Em
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Wow, another great contribution by Troy.
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Question: are you a moral absolutist?
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
Actually, if I were a betting man I would wager that I pay more in federal income taxes than you do.
Oh, I don't know about that. As a business owner, my tax bill is more than adequate.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
As a business owner, my tax bill is more than adequate
Then you need a better accountant
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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The majority of districts whose representatives voted against the Recovery bill are welfare districts to begin with. They suck more out of the Federal government than they have ever paid into it in taxes. They already owe the rest of us bigtime for supporting their sorry asses with OUR taxes. For example, Alabama gets $1.84 in government largesse for each dollar they pay in taxes while Michigan pays $1 in taxes to get back 85 cents in Federal spending. Other Southern states suckle just as vigorously at the Federal teat while contributing very little to national wealth.
Bullshit.
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The majority of districts whose representatives voted against the Recovery bill are welfare districts to begin with. They suck more out of the Federal government than they have ever paid into it in taxes. They already owe the rest of us bigtime for supporting their sorry asses with OUR taxes. For example, Alabama gets $1.84 in government largesse for each dollar they pay in taxes while Michigan pays $1 in taxes to get back 85 cents in Federal spending. Other Southern states suckle just as vigorously at the Federal teat while contributing very little to national wealth.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Other Southern states suckle just as vigorously at the Federal teat while contributing very little to national wealth.
On the other hand the southern states contribute disproportionately to the number of Medal of Honor winners, Distinguised Service Medals, Silver Stars, Bronze Stars, and Purple Hearts. It's hard to pay a lot in taxes when you are existing on a serviceman's pay, so perhaps soldiers ought to be paid as much as the UAW is in Michigan. And it's even harder to pay a lot in taxes when you are sitting in a hospital learning to walk on artificial legs while "sucking at the Federal teat" for enough money to eat and pay for your rehab. By the way, do those figures for Michigan include the bailout for the car industry? No, I didn't think so. Do they include the new bailout asked for yesterday? No, I didn't think so.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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I applaud Governor Jindal's decision. In fact, none of the stimulus money should go to any state or congressional district whose representative voted against it. That seems extremely fair to me. If they don't want the money, they shouldn't take any of it and god bless 'em. Just think how much money they'll be saving their constituents.
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, a potential 2012 GOP presidential candidate, has suggested his state may not be interested in all of the roughly $4 billion allotted to it in the economic stimulus package. Louisiana reportedly faces a possible $2 billion budget shortfall next year. It has been allocated $538,575,876 for infrastructure spending in the stimulus package, and the White House predicts the bill will create 50,000 jobs in the state.[^]
If you don't give them stimulus money because they voted against it, you shouldn't take their tax money to fuel either. This is a 2-way street.
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Joe Biden (for our non US friends, he is now vice president of the US) parts of quote (during campaign); Some say Barack’s “articulate” And bright and new and “clean.”[^] The media sure loves this guy, A white interloper’s dream! But, when you vote for president, Watch out, and don’t be fooled! Don’t vote the Magic Negro in – ‘Cause — Liberal Rag LA Times paraphrase (I belive Stan posted source article below). It was that liberal rag the LA Times that first called him the magic negro. Limbaugh and Shanklin, then ran with that context, referancing it in the Peter Paul and Mary song[^]. The L.A. Times, they called him that ‘Cause he’s not authentic like me. Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper Said he makes guilty whites feel good They’ll vote for him, and not for me ‘Cause he’s not from the hood. In addition early in the presidential campaign while Obama's star was rising, Sharpton's star was falling [^]and he resented it(additonal ref[^]). Which makes this parady even more biting. It's using quotes from the left, putting them in the context of a renouned 'liberal' folk music group and mocking it. And yet doing it with a smile, with good cheer, with out getting angry.
MrPlankton
The Second Amendment, the Reset Button on the Constitutionmodified on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:32 AM
MrPlankton wrote:
Limbaugh and Shanklin, then ran with that context
me too. however, I may just be a Cocky[^] Caucasian[^].
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
if a congressman voted against a Declaration of War, would his constituents be exempted from fighting the war
Not a bad idea but probably unworkable. However, Congressmen who voted against the Recovery bill voluntarily chose not to participate in the program so their districts should receive no funds from it.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
However, Congressmen who voted against the Recovery bill voluntarily chose not to participate in the program so their districts should receive no funds from it
Did it ever cross your liberal mind that the reason they voted "NO" was because of all the PORK in it??? You sound like some schoolkid in the third grade. I can hardly wait to see how they arrived at the number of jobs this bill will create. Is there any explanations of just how they were calculated?
AF Pilot
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
However, Congressmen who voted against the Recovery bill voluntarily chose not to participate in the program so their districts should receive no funds from it
Did it ever cross your liberal mind that the reason they voted "NO" was because of all the PORK in it??? You sound like some schoolkid in the third grade. I can hardly wait to see how they arrived at the number of jobs this bill will create. Is there any explanations of just how they were calculated?
AF Pilot
Reagan Conservative wrote:
Is there any explanations of just how they were calculated?
It involved pencil, paper, and a dartboard.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Reagan Conservative wrote:
Is there any explanations of just how they were calculated?
It involved pencil, paper, and a dartboard.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
LMAO! Kind of like the weather forecast ...
AF Pilot
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["Barack the Magic Negro" lyrics] SHANKLIN (Sharpton impersonator): Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C. Sung as if by Al Sharptons perspective, based on LA Times article about Obama. Al Sharpton prefers bull horns when addressing his throngs, song sung as if Al was singing from bull horn. Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C. The L.A. Times, they called him that ‘Cause he’s not authentic like me. Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper Said he makes guilty whites feel good They’ll vote for him, and not for me ‘Cause he’s not from the hood. See, real black men, like Snoop Dog, Or me, or Farrakhan Have talked the talk, and walked the walk. Not come in late and won! Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C. The L.A. Times, they called him that ‘Cause he’s black, but not authentically. Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C. The L.A. Times, they called him that ‘Cause he’s black, but not authentically. Some say Barack’s “articulate” And bright and new and “clean.” The media sure loves this guy, A white interloper’s dream! But, when you vote for president, Watch out, and don’t be fooled! Don’t vote the Magic Negro in – ‘Cause — ’Cause I won’t have nothing after all these years of sacrifice And I won’t get justice. This is about justice. This isn’t about me, it’s about justice. It’s about buffet. I don’t have no buffet and there won’t be any church contributions, And there’ll be no cash in the collection plate. There ain’t gonna be no cash money, no walkin’ around money, no phoning money. Now, Barack going to come in here and ........ [^]
MrPlankton
The Second Amendment, the Reset Button on the Constitutionmodified on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:22 PM
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Racism is not a pretty thing. You can do better.
As I just fucking said. Shame on you nigger! Shame on you!
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I'm really not sure why you think this is OK.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Because it is you stupiod bitch nigger.
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If your position was as strong as you seem to think. You wouldn't need to reduce yourself to petty characterizations. You betray your position with this childishness.
This statement is false
Synaptrik wrote:
This statement is false
Obviously.
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The biggest problem with this idea should come clear when you consider the 98% of constituents (in Texas at least, percentages may vary from state to state) who asked told their congressmen not to vote for the TARP and were ignored.
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I asked my congressman to vote against TARP and he did. Not for me, I'm sure, but he's a liberal Democrat who felt it was a bad idea.
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Bullshit.
Rob Graham wrote:
bullsh*t.
Don't believe me? Read for yourself: Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005[^]
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If you don't give them stimulus money because they voted against it, you shouldn't take their tax money to fuel either. This is a 2-way street.
Le Centriste wrote:
If you don't give them stimulus money because they voted against it, you shouldn't take their tax money to fuel either.
Those who voted against it are in welfare states that collect far more in Federal spending than they pay in Federal taxes. See: Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005[^]
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
However, Congressmen who voted against the Recovery bill voluntarily chose not to participate in the program so their districts should receive no funds from it
Did it ever cross your liberal mind that the reason they voted "NO" was because of all the PORK in it??? You sound like some schoolkid in the third grade. I can hardly wait to see how they arrived at the number of jobs this bill will create. Is there any explanations of just how they were calculated?
AF Pilot
Reagan Conservative wrote:
Is there any explanations of just how they were calculated?
Congressional Budget Office: (PDF) Year-by-year analysis of the economic effects of the stimulus legislation[^]
Reagan Conservative wrote:
Did it ever cross your liberal mind that the reason they voted "NO" was because of all the PORK in it???
No, because that is not why they voted against it. And my liberal mind was and is against the legislation as passed. It has too much pork and not enough stimulus and is too small for the task at hand. I think about $1.5 trillion is needed, with $300 billion going to targeted tax cuts for small businesses and middle income taxpayers, $600 billion for infrastructure, $300 billion for energy and communications development, and $300 billion to states and localities to offset Medicaid and other Federally mandated spending.
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Reagan Conservative wrote:
Is there any explanations of just how they were calculated?
Congressional Budget Office: (PDF) Year-by-year analysis of the economic effects of the stimulus legislation[^]
Reagan Conservative wrote:
Did it ever cross your liberal mind that the reason they voted "NO" was because of all the PORK in it???
No, because that is not why they voted against it. And my liberal mind was and is against the legislation as passed. It has too much pork and not enough stimulus and is too small for the task at hand. I think about $1.5 trillion is needed, with $300 billion going to targeted tax cuts for small businesses and middle income taxpayers, $600 billion for infrastructure, $300 billion for energy and communications development, and $300 billion to states and localities to offset Medicaid and other Federally mandated spending.
According to Congressional Budget Office: "Correspondingly, the legislation would increase employment by 0.8 million to 2.3 million by the fourth quarter of 2009." (This is by the end of September, by the way --- a little more than 6 months out!) Well, this I have to see. There isn't enough stimuli in this bill to create 10,00 jobs by September! (Plus, in my humble opinion, this reads like Greenspan gobbledegook. I wonder if anyone can break this down into language that common people can understand?) Nothing there in this report as to how they "determine" if a job was/is created by the stimulus package. I suppose any jobs created are to be "claimed" as created by the stimulus package?? So if I go out and start a business with my own money and hire two people that are unemployed, those people count as "gained" by the stimulus package?? So why did they vote against it --- maybe because they were not allowed to have any INPUT to the PROCESS in this new "bi-partisan" administration? The Dems had to have a secret meeting to formulate this mess. Couldn't even do it in the Capitol Building! I thought bi-partisanship was going to be one of the anchors of the Obama Administration. Or has bi-partisanship been re-defined by the Democrats?
AF Pilot
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According to Congressional Budget Office: "Correspondingly, the legislation would increase employment by 0.8 million to 2.3 million by the fourth quarter of 2009." (This is by the end of September, by the way --- a little more than 6 months out!) Well, this I have to see. There isn't enough stimuli in this bill to create 10,00 jobs by September! (Plus, in my humble opinion, this reads like Greenspan gobbledegook. I wonder if anyone can break this down into language that common people can understand?) Nothing there in this report as to how they "determine" if a job was/is created by the stimulus package. I suppose any jobs created are to be "claimed" as created by the stimulus package?? So if I go out and start a business with my own money and hire two people that are unemployed, those people count as "gained" by the stimulus package?? So why did they vote against it --- maybe because they were not allowed to have any INPUT to the PROCESS in this new "bi-partisan" administration? The Dems had to have a secret meeting to formulate this mess. Couldn't even do it in the Capitol Building! I thought bi-partisanship was going to be one of the anchors of the Obama Administration. Or has bi-partisanship been re-defined by the Democrats?
AF Pilot
Reagan Conservative wrote:
maybe because they were not allowed to have any INPUT to the PROCESS in this new "bi-partisan" administration?
Partly so. I'm sure they were PO'd about that. It was also because they believe tax cuts for the wealthy are more worthy.
Reagan Conservative wrote:
I thought bi-partisanship was going to be one of the anchors of the Obama Administration
Obama does not control Congress any more than any previous president did. Congress has their own agenda which is often at odds with both the president and the American people.