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[Lost User]

Richard A. Abbott wrote:

So to answer your question, NO, you can't opt out of contributions.

Then in Britain one doesn't really "choose" national health care as you implied.

[Lost User]

I do not like asking, friend or foe, or anybody for a free hand-out, so, after you have paid your taxes etc., your money in your pocket is perfectly safe from my prying eyes. Yet, if you lived in Britain, even as a foreigner who has made their home in Britain, I would have no hesitation contributing through our National Insurance and PAYE schemes to and for your well being through our NHS. Call it strange or stupid or whatever, but that is how things are in Britain.

[Lost User]

Oakman wrote:

I apologise

Not needed. You have nothing to apologize for. Yes, you are right. We are like a large family. We may fall out from time to time but we soon kiss and make-up (so to speak) and look after our own howsoever far away we might actually live.

[Stan Shannon]

Richard A. Abbott wrote:

I do not like asking, friend or foe, or anybody for a free hand-out,

But you're perfectly ok with stealing. Ok, got it...

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Lost User]

If there was a referendum tomorrow with the choice of (A) private arranged healthcare or (B) NHS healthcare, my choice would be NHS healthcare. I could have a private healthcare policy if I so choose, but I don't choose that option.

[Lost User]

Let me re-phrase what I said. I do not like asking, friend or foe, or anybody for a free hand-out. I will not take money out of your personal pocket. The taxes you are required to pay is all you are required to pay and NOT A PENNY MORE, but if you want to contribute to your favorite charity, then good for you. Yet none of that which I have said authorizes me or excuses me to steal from you or anybody else, and that act of theft is not permitted. But if you look at socialized healthcare as some kind of legalized theft, then, that is your privilege.

[Stan Shannon]

Richard A. Abbott wrote:

But if you look at socialized healthcare as some kind of legalized theft, then, that is your privilege.

When government takes money from one person and gives it to someone else, that is absolutely no different at all from that same person picking up a gun and taking the money themselves. It is precisely the same thing (except that the latter is more efficient becuase it doesn't require a bureaucracy which also has to be supported by stealing money from free people)

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Ilion]

Stan Shannon wrote:

But you're perfectly ok with stealing.

... under threat of violent death.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

It will continue to grow, consuming their economy and finally their society.

I bet when you read the Wizard of Oz to your kids you let the Wicked Witch of the West win.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[_Damian S_]

Personally I thought it was more along the lines of wanting to make a snide remark instead of gracefully accepting a compliment in the good faith that it was made... Of course, I might be wrong, but hasn't happened yet! :laugh:

Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!! Booger Mobile - Camp Quality esCarpade 2010

[Oakman]

_Damian S_ wrote:

Personally I thought it was more along the lines of wanting to make a snide remark instead of gracefully accepting a compliment in the good faith that it was made...

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Lost User]

And from me, my last comment in this thread is another article you should read Universal health care good for employers[^]. No doubt we will return to this subject soon...

[73Zeppelin]

I must say, I'm pretty amazed at the way this thread turned out. Decent discussion.

[Ilion]

_Damian S_ wrote:

Personally I thought it was more along the lines of wanting to make a snide remark instead of gracefully accepting a compliment in the good faith that it was made...

You have an interesting understanding of "good faith" [and of "compliment"].

[Ilion]

typical trollness from you

[Oakman]

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

[Dan Neely]

That's because they have the US Military to do it instead.

Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

[Ilion]

73Zeppelin wrote:

I must say, I'm pretty amazed at the way this thread turned out. Decent discussion.

Once again, what is different about today as compared to last week?

[_Damian S_]

Perhaps I choose to believe that CG was being genuine, whereas you clearly choose to believe that it was some covert attempt to smite you...

Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!! Booger Mobile - Camp Quality esCarpade 2010

[fred_]

did anyone tell you you hit like a little girl? wait that's cry