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    Ilíon wrote:

    this "science" thingie you worship

    Unlike you, we do not worship the anthropomorphism of an abstract concept.

    Ilíon wrote:

    isn't even about truth in the first place

    Well, you've grasped that much, well done. (But try not to sound so petulant.)

    Bob Emmett

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    Ilion
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    Bob Emmett wrote:

    Well, you've grasped that much, well done.

    When are you going to grasp it?

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      Denyse O'Leary on Uncommon Descent: Phineas Gage: Evolution of a lecture room psychopath[^]

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      By the way, I would strongly advise you to not ignore the papers I linked to.

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        By the way, I would strongly advise you to not ignore the papers I linked to.

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        Oakman
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        so much for "try," eh, grasshopper?

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          so much for "try," eh, grasshopper?

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          There are other people that would be interested in them.

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            There are other people that would be interested in them.

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            Oakman
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            do or not do, there is no try - and no explanation.

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              do or not do, there is no try - and no explanation.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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              Of course there is a 'try'. What kind of argument is that? In fact, trying invariably leads to doing or not doing. And there is always an explanation. It just depends on whether you want to hear it, and whether I want to tell you. Which I don't.

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                Of course there is a 'try'. What kind of argument is that? In fact, trying invariably leads to doing or not doing. And there is always an explanation. It just depends on whether you want to hear it, and whether I want to tell you. Which I don't.

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                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                What kind of argument is that?

                Take it up with Yoda.

                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                And there is always an explanation

                No, I am afraid that you'll find out when you grow up, that there isn't - and even when there is, no-one wants to hear it.

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                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  What kind of argument is that?

                  Take it up with Yoda.

                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  And there is always an explanation

                  No, I am afraid that you'll find out when you grow up, that there isn't - and even when there is, no-one wants to hear it.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  Oakman wrote:

                  Take it up with Yoda.

                  Maybe I will.

                  Oakman wrote:

                  No, I am afraid that you'll find out when you grow up, that there isn't - and even when there is, no-one wants to hear it.

                  There is always a reason that things happen, it's just that sometimes you have yet to find out what it is. And it depends what it is, as to whether no-one wants to hear it. I'm still trying to figure it out, but I know that I have to never tell anybody anything about me.

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                    Oakman wrote:

                    Take it up with Yoda.

                    Maybe I will.

                    Oakman wrote:

                    No, I am afraid that you'll find out when you grow up, that there isn't - and even when there is, no-one wants to hear it.

                    There is always a reason that things happen, it's just that sometimes you have yet to find out what it is. And it depends what it is, as to whether no-one wants to hear it. I'm still trying to figure it out, but I know that I have to never tell anybody anything about me.

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                    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                    There is always a reason that things happen

                    Quantum mechanics suggests that your view of causality may be vastly oversimplified. ;P

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                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      There is always a reason that things happen

                      Quantum mechanics suggests that your view of causality may be vastly oversimplified. ;P

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                      Particles? Bah! They do whatever I tell them to do, exactly as fast as I want.

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                        Particles? Bah! They do whatever I tell them to do, exactly as fast as I want.

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                        Last time I checked, sometimes "shit happens" no "because" required...

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                          Last time I checked, sometimes "shit happens" no "because" required...

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                          Well, you should check again. There's always a 'because', you can thank the conservation laws and thermodynamics for that.

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            Take it up with Yoda.

                            Maybe I will.

                            Oakman wrote:

                            No, I am afraid that you'll find out when you grow up, that there isn't - and even when there is, no-one wants to hear it.

                            There is always a reason that things happen, it's just that sometimes you have yet to find out what it is. And it depends what it is, as to whether no-one wants to hear it. I'm still trying to figure it out, but I know that I have to never tell anybody anything about me.

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                            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                            There is always a reason that things happen, it's just that sometimes you have yet to find out what it is.

                            I have to say that Jon is right - sometimes there isn't an explanation for why things happen, as I'm sure you'll discover as you get older. It happens to be one of the more maddening aspects of the human condition. By the way - your summation function, while not continuous as written, can be made continuous.

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                              Tim Craig wrote:

                              And you don't have a brain so what's your point?

                              And you appear to not have a mind. But since the point is your head, I suppose it's OK that you are determined to be mindless.

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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              And you appear to not have a mind. But since the point is your head, I suppose it's OK that you are determined to be mindless.

                              Again my roomates 10 year old call that insult lame .. get out of grade school

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                                Ilíon wrote:

                                And you're an anti-rational fool who chooses not to reason logically

                                You couldn't find reason and logic if they were stuck to your ass. In fact, you couldn't even empty a boot full of piss if the instructions were taped to bottom.

                                "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                                2nd the motion :thumbsup:

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                                  Bob Emmett wrote:

                                  Well, you've grasped that much, well done.

                                  When are you going to grasp it?

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                                  Ilíon wrote:

                                  When are you going to grasp it?

                                  :rolleyes: Miss the point much?

                                  Bob Emmett wrote:

                                  Well, you've grasped that much, well done.

                                  Which, in the context of:

                                  Ilíon wrote:

                                  this "science" thingie you worship isn't even about truth in the first place

                                  is an agreement that science has never been about truth. Toodle-loo, old bean.

                                  Bob Emmett

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                                    Well, you should check again. There's always a 'because', you can thank the conservation laws and thermodynamics for that.

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                                    So says the 14 year old master on all things physical. So you are saying that you can prove Quantum Mechanics wrong and validate your assertion? AND can prove there's always a because? Did it come to you in a dream? Lookup some material on Carl Jung and falling frogs.

                                    This statement is false

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                                      Ilíon wrote:

                                      And you appear to not have a mind. But since the point is your head, I suppose it's OK that you are determined to be mindless.

                                      Again my roomates 10 year old call that insult lame .. get out of grade school

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                                      You're a fool, and likely intellectually dishonest.

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                                        You're a fool, and likely intellectually dishonest.

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                                        Ilíon wrote:

                                        You're a fool

                                        Turing Test failure #1

                                        Ilíon wrote:

                                        intellectually dishonest

                                        Turing Test failure #2

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                                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                          There is always a reason that things happen, it's just that sometimes you have yet to find out what it is.

                                          I have to say that Jon is right - sometimes there isn't an explanation for why things happen, as I'm sure you'll discover as you get older. It happens to be one of the more maddening aspects of the human condition. By the way - your summation function, while not continuous as written, can be made continuous.

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                                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                                          I have to say that Jon is right - sometimes there isn't an explanation for why things happen, as I'm sure you'll discover as you get older. It happens to be one of the more maddening aspects of the human condition.

                                          *grumble grumble* I maintain that a completely bad reason is still a reason...

                                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                                          By the way - your summation function, while not continuous as written, can be made continuous.

                                          Is that if you say S(x) = { x(1-xn)/(1-x), x != 1; n, x = 1 } ? :confused:

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