The Guardian: The question that flummoxed the great orator

[Stan Shannon]

Oakman wrote:

As for Palin - she's a joke. If she is what you consider a great conservative, then once again you appear to want to lose elections.

No, she is actually a quite able and accomplished politician. Honest, decent and intelligent. She is everything anyone could possibly hope for.

Oakman wrote:

So when America is scraping the bottom of the barrel . . . One would hope that there would be, even then, an alternative to the John Birch Society. But you may be right. Only after America has reduced itself to the educational, social, and economic level it was in at the turn of the last century would there be a real chance for the groupthink society you seem to hope for.

The political system that existed at the turn of the century in the United States is the only workable political model we have. It was working flawlessly for the most part. A few racial and gender issues still needed to dealt with, but aside from that it had few problems. But, hey, I'm more than happy to let the rest of you continue to fart around with all this other unworkable nonsense. Knock yourself out. I'll be waiting. Come to my side, or stay with Obama, that's your choice.

Oakman wrote:

Stan, I guess I have to be the one to break it to you: not every citizen of the United States of America lives in a backwater town in Indiana. That rural mind-set that you believe you speak for, has not been that of America as a whole, for at least 100 years. It's time to wake up and smell the industrial revolution.

The real question is where does this hatred and loathing for traditional American culture come from? Why are you so paranoid about small town America? We will again be what we were, it is inevitable.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

Well, all I know is that picture you posted is clearly faked

ROFL - open your eyes.

Stan Shannon wrote:

Evidently, its the polite thing to do in Texas when your walking with an old person.

The Prince is younger than Bush Any more straws you'd like to clutch at?

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

[Oakman]

I'll wait until you sober up. All of your posts tonight read like fantasies.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

[Stan Shannon]

Oakman wrote:

ROFL - open your eyes.

Jon, that picture is clearly faked. I could do a better job than that. Look at the damned thing.

Oakman wrote:

The Prince is younger than Bush

I don't believe that is true.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Stan Shannon]

I'm stone cold sober, and my belief is that what we had was better than any alternative presented since. Collectivism doesn't work. Libertarianism doesn't work. Conservativsm, when both fiscal and social are combined, works. Its just that simple, the American model, as designed and implemented. I, for one, will set and wait until everyone else figures that out.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

Look at the damned thing.

Wow! They not only faked the kiss, they faked the moment before it[^], too! :omg:

Stan Shannon wrote:

I don't believe that is true.

I know you don't, Stan. When you get into this state, you'll deny that the sun shines or water is wet.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

modified on Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:57 PM

[Stan Shannon]

I suppose I could be wrong about the guys age. I thought I had read somewhere that he was elderly. However, this[^] is the only non-fake image of Bush kissing any Saudi.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

I'm stone cold sober

You have said that before, but I have seen this descent into truculence and dogmatism on your part - usually on the weekend, always at night - to wonder if I shouldn't take that with a grain of salt. If you aren't drinking, you are giving a marvelous imitation of someone who is. Good night.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

[Oakman]

Stan Shannon wrote:

However, this[^] is the only non-fake image of Bush kissing any Saudi.

So you figure that both of the photos - obviously of the same sequence of events are both faked? Have you given up on the Easter Bunny, at least?

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

[Ilion]

Stan Shannon wrote:

... I have no desire to re-integrate into it as an equal. To do so is the grossest imaginable insult to the people who built the US. Obama and his minions can kiss my butt.

Would that require bowing? :laugh: