What would you say?
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I'm sitting here talking with Nish on MSN and waiting for VS.NET to install when another friend messages me. Here is a copy/paste of the message that friend sent me: "TVs gonna suck tomorrow". Yep, nearly 3,000 people lost their lives that day and all he can worry about is that TV is gonna suck. Then again, what can I expect; this is the same person who wanted to watch comedy central for election day 'coverage'. And it's the same person who said "I think it's funny" a year ago when he found out about the attacks. I never replied to either of his remarks because I didn't know what to reply with. So...What would you say? James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
The guy obviously doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut, if not for himself than through respect for you who obviously feels very strongly about what has happened, so just block him for the rest of the day. Take the time later on to explain why you did what you did and take it from there.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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I'd do what you did - I wouldn't say anything. After all, if you've nothing nice to say in reply, why say anything? Nevertheless, don't judge him for his apparent lack of empathy. It's the biggest single failing of humans in general, in my opinion. Empathy and mutual respect can potentially solve all the World's problems. See my non-fluffy and fixed kitty here[^]. "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
Fixed kitty ? It was broken ? :confused: Elaine (definitely not broken fluffy tigress) phykell wrote: "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can." Yes, but then again, aim low and that is as far as you will rise :suss: Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Fixed kitty ? It was broken ? :confused: Elaine (definitely not broken fluffy tigress) phykell wrote: "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can." Yes, but then again, aim low and that is as far as you will rise :suss: Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: Fixed kitty ? It was broken ? Youm must have missed this[^]. :) And I wonder why it's not tig'E'ress? Trollslayer wrote: Yes, but then again, aim low and that is as far as you will rise I think it means that people are never happy with what they've got despite how good it may be. Along the lines of the lyric by Matt Johnson of "The The": "The only true freedom is freedom from the heart's desire" etc. OK, sorry, I'll get back to some progging now... "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
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I'm sitting here talking with Nish on MSN and waiting for VS.NET to install when another friend messages me. Here is a copy/paste of the message that friend sent me: "TVs gonna suck tomorrow". Yep, nearly 3,000 people lost their lives that day and all he can worry about is that TV is gonna suck. Then again, what can I expect; this is the same person who wanted to watch comedy central for election day 'coverage'. And it's the same person who said "I think it's funny" a year ago when he found out about the attacks. I never replied to either of his remarks because I didn't know what to reply with. So...What would you say? James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
I'd say: "and it's going to suck the day after that, and the day after that, and ... so what are you going to do about it? Maybe you should get off your ass and find or make something that doesn't suck." [edit]Maybe I should point out that I'm not commenting on the 9/11 tragedy (just in case it's not clear).[/edit _____________________ "So in the interests of survival, they trained themselves to be agreeing machines instead of thinking machines. All their minds had to do was to discover what other people were thinking, and then they thought that, too." Breakfast of Champions, Kurt Vonnegut
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I'm sitting here talking with Nish on MSN and waiting for VS.NET to install when another friend messages me. Here is a copy/paste of the message that friend sent me: "TVs gonna suck tomorrow". Yep, nearly 3,000 people lost their lives that day and all he can worry about is that TV is gonna suck. Then again, what can I expect; this is the same person who wanted to watch comedy central for election day 'coverage'. And it's the same person who said "I think it's funny" a year ago when he found out about the attacks. I never replied to either of his remarks because I didn't know what to reply with. So...What would you say? James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
James T. Johnson wrote: TVs gonna suck tomorrow As opposed to..?? The majority of TV sucks all the time. Regarding 9/11/2001, however, there is no good way to cover any horrible event. It is nearly impossible to give a true picture of what happened somewhere without some level of detail, but the detail is going to offend. The stories cannot be told without be upsetting or offensive, because thats what the attack was. BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}
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i wouldn't say anything to him... probably for a long time. sounds like he has some, um, issues. ---- but, TV is gonna suck. so is radio, newspapers and every magazine for the next month. they're gonna suck, not because of the content, but because of they way that content is going to be presented. i watched some of it today, and i've been hearing it on the radio for the past week and i see it on the newsstands. everything i've seen or heard is as slick and shallow and emotionally manipulative as the spotlight athelete bits they show during the olympics. there are flags in the background, close-ups of teary eyed widows, slow motion firefighters, solemn then triumphant music, more flags, then sinister music and grainy photos of the fuckers who made the day notable. then they show the planes crash into the buildings (again, from all angles). then it repeats. maybe some people like that stuff. but to me it feels wrong to obsess over the gory details of that day. i don't need to be reminded of what happened - i haven't stopped talking about it or its consequences in the 365 days since it happened. i don't need my emotional batteries recharged. i don't need to be told how to feel or who to feel it for. so, i'm just going to keep the radio and tv off tomorrow. if anything happens, i'm sure it will show up here within seconds. i hope that doesn't sound like i want to forget about it; i don't. and i don't want others to forget about it, so i'm showing a tasteful 9/11 banner i copied from /. on all my pages tomorrow. but, i simply can't stand the weepy overwrought obsessive crap the Media is trying to dump on us. -c
Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: "Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad-hoc, informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp."
I agree. No matter how they present it, it almost comes across as a celebration - this is what TV is geared towards. IMHO, a short speech, prayer, or dedication from someone who actually was involved would suffice. TV is presented largely as an escape every other day of the year; trying to place it otherwise now is insulting both to the viewers and to those who suffered on and after 9/11. For some reason, this has made me reflect on our Memorial Day. This is certainly a holiday, with families getting together, parades, lots of extra programming on TV... ...But the day starts, around here at least, with a journey out to the cemetary, where we stand quietly amongst the graves of those men who fought so many years ago. The few remaining veterans from the local VFW come out, a speech is given, a prayer is said, reminding us of the many who are not buried here and whose graves may never be known. And then we all go home. There's nothing i could see on television that could come close to being as sobering and sincere as that brief ritual.
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I'm sitting here talking with Nish on MSN and waiting for VS.NET to install when another friend messages me. Here is a copy/paste of the message that friend sent me: "TVs gonna suck tomorrow". Yep, nearly 3,000 people lost their lives that day and all he can worry about is that TV is gonna suck. Then again, what can I expect; this is the same person who wanted to watch comedy central for election day 'coverage'. And it's the same person who said "I think it's funny" a year ago when he found out about the attacks. I never replied to either of his remarks because I didn't know what to reply with. So...What would you say? James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
James T. Johnson wrote: "TVs gonna suck tomorrow". TV sucks all day long , at least the 4 prime channels here in Portugal :mad: Fortunately I have cable tv ... Today on tv ... Big Brother VIP , Soap Operas and of course exploration of the 11th September with images never seen filmed by a video camera inside the building when it shakes and the rescues ... X| James T. Johnson wrote: And it's the same person who said "I think it's funny" a year ago when he found out about the attacks. The guy definitely have some mental issues to resolve ... perhaps beating him with a hammer shakes his thoughts ... With friends like this, who need's clowns ... :eek: IMHO the guy as a friend sucks ... Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9
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Hello James I've already said most of this to you, but I am reposting the same here for the benefit of the thread. Some people just say things like that to hide what they actually feel. Perhaps this guy wants to show he's hard outside and doesnt care about others. Inside he might not be this bad. In fact my guess is he is scared and a coward and is just saying these things to convince himself that he is not scared! And he's too occupied in doing that to feel a humane thought for the ones who suffered last year this day. Regards, Nish
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Nishant S wrote: Perhaps this guy wants to show he's hard outside and doesnt care about others. It's just possible, though, that he's an asshole.
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I'm sitting here talking with Nish on MSN and waiting for VS.NET to install when another friend messages me. Here is a copy/paste of the message that friend sent me: "TVs gonna suck tomorrow". Yep, nearly 3,000 people lost their lives that day and all he can worry about is that TV is gonna suck. Then again, what can I expect; this is the same person who wanted to watch comedy central for election day 'coverage'. And it's the same person who said "I think it's funny" a year ago when he found out about the attacks. I never replied to either of his remarks because I didn't know what to reply with. So...What would you say? James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
I'd agree. TV sucked here too. Lots of sensationalism, bringing lots of joy to al Queda by putting their names on everyone's lips for a day. As someone said on CP yesterday, if we didn't have this media explosion a year later, that would say something far more powerful about us as a people. Saying it's funny a year ago however qualifies your friend as a card carrying moron. Either that or he has emotional issues and says stupid things because he doesn't know how to say what he feels. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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I'd agree. TV sucked here too. Lots of sensationalism, bringing lots of joy to al Queda by putting their names on everyone's lips for a day. As someone said on CP yesterday, if we didn't have this media explosion a year later, that would say something far more powerful about us as a people. Saying it's funny a year ago however qualifies your friend as a card carrying moron. Either that or he has emotional issues and says stupid things because he doesn't know how to say what he feels. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: I'd agree. I think there are vast differences in how you agree with my friend. Many of the replies agreed that TV is going to suck in how the coverage is presented; I agree there too. The *only* things I liked about the coverage was Fox News not running commercials (and as far as I could see there weren't any product placements). And while the various memorials were taking place there wasn't much going on except for focus on the memorials. Going by past experiences, my friend said TV would suck because he just doesn't care. It's truly sad, but thats the way he is but he's the only friend I have left after my other friends moved away and -- later -- I moved away for uni. James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
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Christian Graus wrote: I'd agree. I think there are vast differences in how you agree with my friend. Many of the replies agreed that TV is going to suck in how the coverage is presented; I agree there too. The *only* things I liked about the coverage was Fox News not running commercials (and as far as I could see there weren't any product placements). And while the various memorials were taking place there wasn't much going on except for focus on the memorials. Going by past experiences, my friend said TV would suck because he just doesn't care. It's truly sad, but thats the way he is but he's the only friend I have left after my other friends moved away and -- later -- I moved away for uni. James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
The question I guess you need to ask yourself is, what sort of friend is it whose opinions you ( rightly ) hold in contempt ? My best friend lives over 1,000 klm away. I have other friends, but I admit to being happy with a fairly solitary life ( plus I have my wife and children, which makes it different ), but my life is too busy to pursue the friendship of people I do not like. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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The question I guess you need to ask yourself is, what sort of friend is it whose opinions you ( rightly ) hold in contempt ? My best friend lives over 1,000 klm away. I have other friends, but I admit to being happy with a fairly solitary life ( plus I have my wife and children, which makes it different ), but my life is too busy to pursue the friendship of people I do not like. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: what sort of friend is it whose opinions you ( rightly ) hold in contempt ? Thats a very hard question to answer; and one I've answered before when I realized it was best to break contact with some friends who thought life was all about getting wasted. Unlike the previous friendships though; we have a lot of common interests -- I met him in my high school programming class. I guess my concerns are whether or not his apathy is worth the only friendship I can say I have left (excluding everyone here of course :)) I hope you don't charge too much for being a psychiatrist :cool: James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
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Christian Graus wrote: what sort of friend is it whose opinions you ( rightly ) hold in contempt ? Thats a very hard question to answer; and one I've answered before when I realized it was best to break contact with some friends who thought life was all about getting wasted. Unlike the previous friendships though; we have a lot of common interests -- I met him in my high school programming class. I guess my concerns are whether or not his apathy is worth the only friendship I can say I have left (excluding everyone here of course :)) I hope you don't charge too much for being a psychiatrist :cool: James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
James T. Johnson wrote: I hope you don't charge too much for being a psychiatrist Nah, all part of the service. BTW, do you do much with XML in C# ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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James T. Johnson wrote: I hope you don't charge too much for being a psychiatrist Nah, all part of the service. BTW, do you do much with XML in C# ? Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: do you do much with XML in C# ? Not so much with XML documents; I think the first code I ever released dealing with XML Documents was for the screen saver. Before that all my .NET XML experience has been with the XMLSerializer class. Who knows though; perhaps my limited knowledge is enough to answer some questions you have so fire away ;) I'm also hoping/betting that Paul would be listening. James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
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Christian Graus wrote: do you do much with XML in C# ? Not so much with XML documents; I think the first code I ever released dealing with XML Documents was for the screen saver. Before that all my .NET XML experience has been with the XMLSerializer class. Who knows though; perhaps my limited knowledge is enough to answer some questions you have so fire away ;) I'm also hoping/betting that Paul would be listening. James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
Well, it's more that I've written a wrapper class for the C# XML stuff, and a GUI app that exposes it and provides a simple editor for XML/XSL and XSD. I posted to the testing forum but no-one has answered and I'm hoping to find a couple of folks willing to test it for me and comment, because it's for a magazine article and it's grown in size beyond what I am likely to be able to test as thoroughly as I would like. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002