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  • I Ilion

    Everything is interconnected in some way, don't you think? Might it be, just possibly, that there is some sort of correlation or relationship between certain policies in the forums (frequently unadmitted or even denied -- but no one who frequents CP is really so stupid as to not understand the reality) and an over-all decline in interest in them?

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    Christian Graus
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    No, your conspiracy theories have nothing to do with the outsourcing boom creating a flood of clueless people in India, who are ruining the programming forums. I don't even know what conspiracy you're talking about tho, please amuse me ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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      No, your conspiracy theories have nothing to do with the outsourcing boom creating a flood of clueless people in India, who are ruining the programming forums. I don't even know what conspiracy you're talking about tho, please amuse me ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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      Ilion
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      No, your conspiracy theories ... I don't even know what conspiracy you're talking about tho, please amuse me ?

      You're really not used to thinking critically, are you?

      Christian Graus wrote:

      ... the outsourcing boom creating a flood of clueless people in India, who are ruining the programming forums.

      You racist! You bigot! Turn youself in to a reeducation centre, at once!

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      • C Christian Graus

        Turns out there's a whole site outside of the soapbox. Anyone visiting it ? Man, the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic, and the traffic is getting more and more clueless. Look at the VB forum for examples. It makes me feel sad.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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        Yusuf
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic

        May be school/exam season is over. I noticed couple "final project" help wanted type questions

        Christian Graus wrote:

        and the traffic is getting more and more clueless

        I have noticed, as usual, few posting multiple questions. I want to know how these people make it at the end of the day/week/month when they have to showcase/present their *work*.

        Christian Graus wrote:

        Look at the VB forum for examples. It makes me feel sad.

        At times, their question makes me mad. It is so simple and can be easily answered if they have done very little effort.

        Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]

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        • C Christian Graus

          Turns out there's a whole site outside of the soapbox. Anyone visiting it ? Man, the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic, and the traffic is getting more and more clueless. Look at the VB forum for examples. It makes me feel sad.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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          martin_hughes
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          I was just about to post something similar - you guys are not pariahs to be relegated here! I think The Back Room and Soapbox 2.0 were a bad move by Chris from a community standpoint (although possibly quite reasonable from a commercial one), but you guys could come back, have a bit of a laugh in the lounge, do your thing in programming forums and what not.

          print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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          • M martin_hughes

            I was just about to post something similar - you guys are not pariahs to be relegated here! I think The Back Room and Soapbox 2.0 were a bad move by Chris from a community standpoint (although possibly quite reasonable from a commercial one), but you guys could come back, have a bit of a laugh in the lounge, do your thing in programming forums and what not.

            print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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            Oakman
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            martin_hughes wrote:

            you guys are not pariahs to be relegated here!

            No, only our ideas are.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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              Turns out there's a whole site outside of the soapbox. Anyone visiting it ? Man, the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic, and the traffic is getting more and more clueless. Look at the VB forum for examples. It makes me feel sad.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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              Oakman
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              Look at the VB forum for examples.

              Gresham's Law.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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              • I Ilion

                Christian Graus wrote:

                No, your conspiracy theories ... I don't even know what conspiracy you're talking about tho, please amuse me ?

                You're really not used to thinking critically, are you?

                Christian Graus wrote:

                ... the outsourcing boom creating a flood of clueless people in India, who are ruining the programming forums.

                You racist! You bigot! Turn youself in to a reeducation centre, at once!

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                Christian Graus
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                Ilíon wrote:

                You're really not used to thinking critically, are you?

                So you're not going to tell us your theory then ?

                Ilíon wrote:

                You racist! You bigot!

                You moron.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                • O Oakman

                  martin_hughes wrote:

                  you guys are not pariahs to be relegated here!

                  No, only our ideas are.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  This is what I find most depressing about the new regime; the lack of good quality discussion. Ok the old Soapbox turned into a farce with rampant one voting and Illion's posts being removed five seconds after he posted them. But this is worse! A tucked away hive of an underclass? Nah, this sucks.

                  print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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                  • M martin_hughes

                    This is what I find most depressing about the new regime; the lack of good quality discussion. Ok the old Soapbox turned into a farce with rampant one voting and Illion's posts being removed five seconds after he posted them. But this is worse! A tucked away hive of an underclass? Nah, this sucks.

                    print "http://www.codeproject.com".toURL().text Ain't that Groovy?

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                    Oakman
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                    martin_hughes wrote:

                    A tucked away hive of an underclass

                    Well, there's the old saying that insane asylums won't come into their proper use until 95% of the population is mad. Then the rest of us can retire to the asylums. :D

                    martin_hughes wrote:

                    Ok the old Soapbox turned into a farce with rampant one voting

                    From what I could tell, the same thing was happening in the lounge. Lots of 1 votes because the author's opinion doesn't jibe with the voter's, and the occasional semi-troll who gets ganged up on. As near as I can tell we were sent to purdah because Chris didn't like the subject matter of many posts. But, at least he didn't simply close it down.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Turns out there's a whole site outside of the soapbox. Anyone visiting it ? Man, the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic, and the traffic is getting more and more clueless. Look at the VB forum for examples. It makes me feel sad.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                      Chris Austin
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                      Could it be that MS is also waning and from early on this site had hitched it's wagon to MS? I've a suspicion that if MS releases something really cool (from a dev's POV) beyond silverligt or wpf we'd see a spike in traffic.

                      Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                        Could it be that MS is also waning and from early on this site had hitched it's wagon to MS? I've a suspicion that if MS releases something really cool (from a dev's POV) beyond silverligt or wpf we'd see a spike in traffic.

                        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                        Christian Graus
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                        I suspect the reverse. The MSDN site is getting a lot of the traffic, and people are generally motivated to try to get MVP status, so they figure the MS site is the best place to do it.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                          I suspect the reverse. The MSDN site is getting a lot of the traffic, and people are generally motivated to try to get MVP status, so they figure the MS site is the best place to do it.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                          Chris Austin
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                          I'll take your word on it. I've written a very little .net or mfc/wtl code in over three years. So, needless to say, I am a bit out of the MS ecosystem loop.

                          Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            I suspect the reverse. The MSDN site is getting a lot of the traffic, and people are generally motivated to try to get MVP status, so they figure the MS site is the best place to do it.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                            Oakman
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            so they figure the MS site is the best place to do it

                            It's a good thing Google has that place catalogued.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              Turns out there's a whole site outside of the soapbox. Anyone visiting it ? Man, the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic, and the traffic is getting more and more clueless. Look at the VB forum for examples. It makes me feel sad.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                              Lost User
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic

                              Not just poor quality questions from poor quality students but may also be due to the "Satyam Fraud" effect.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                Turns out there's a whole site outside of the soapbox. Anyone visiting it ? Man, the programming forums are both getting less and less traffic, and the traffic is getting more and more clueless. Look at the VB forum for examples. It makes me feel sad.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                                kmg365
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                                What is vb forum? there is only id=2605 :)

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                                  What is vb forum? there is only id=2605 :)

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                                  Oakman
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                                  kmg365 wrote:

                                  What is vb forum?

                                  Is is where bad backroomers go when they die.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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