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  • S Stan Shannon

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Television/Story?id=7381893&page=2[^] She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is quintessentially mainstream. If belief in such an ancient, wholesome, normal institution is all that is necessary to be considered 'right wing' by social authoritarians than we should embrace the term as a new definition of 'normal'.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    Yusuf
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    From the article:

    he was surprised by her response: "I believe that EVERYONE deserves to be happy. That's all I'm saying." Comparing Cyrus and Prejean, Hilton said, "A 16-year-old gave a better answer. If she [Prejean] had said those two sentences, that would have been a better answer."

    If you [perez] truly believe everyone deserves to be happy, it gives me an immense happiness to express my feeling loud and clear that a marriage is between a man and women ONLY. Now I am happy.

    From the article:

    He also said what he would have done if Miss California had been crowned the winner. "I would have gone up on stage -- I s--- you not – and snatched that tiara off her head and run out the door," he said in his video blog. "I would probably have been arrested. But so be it. I need a cocktail now."

    Doesn't she deserved to be HAPPY? So where is your 'everyone deserves to be happy...". Oh wait a minute, you meant "We deserve to be happy..."

    ɟnsnʎ ʎlʇuǝƃıllǝʇuı uoıʇsǝnb ɐ ʞsɐ oʇ ʍoɥ [^]

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    • S Stan Shannon

      http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Television/Story?id=7381893&page=2[^] She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is quintessentially mainstream. If belief in such an ancient, wholesome, normal institution is all that is necessary to be considered 'right wing' by social authoritarians than we should embrace the term as a new definition of 'normal'.

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      One things for sure. She's got balls. I guess you like that in a woman, eh?

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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      • S Stan Shannon

        http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Television/Story?id=7381893&page=2[^] She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is quintessentially mainstream. If belief in such an ancient, wholesome, normal institution is all that is necessary to be considered 'right wing' by social authoritarians than we should embrace the term as a new definition of 'normal'.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        As society degrades... maybe in a few years maybe sooner, I expect some will protest for cross species marriage... 20 years ago who would expect current predicament. "What ever makes you happy?" At some point God will owe Sodom an apology or judge this country.

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          One things for sure. She's got balls. I guess you like that in a woman, eh?

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          Bigger balls then Hilton, perhaps.

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            As society degrades... maybe in a few years maybe sooner, I expect some will protest for cross species marriage... 20 years ago who would expect current predicament. "What ever makes you happy?" At some point God will owe Sodom an apology or judge this country.

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            kmg365 wrote:

            cross species marriage

            Is your name Jeremy by any chance?

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            • S Stan Shannon

              http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Television/Story?id=7381893&page=2[^] She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is quintessentially mainstream. If belief in such an ancient, wholesome, normal institution is all that is necessary to be considered 'right wing' by social authoritarians than we should embrace the term as a new definition of 'normal'.

              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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              Yeah, it's so fascist to let people marry who they want. It's even more fascist when people like you are denied the right to decide for other people whom to marry.

              -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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              • S Stan Shannon

                http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Television/Story?id=7381893&page=2[^] She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is quintessentially mainstream. If belief in such an ancient, wholesome, normal institution is all that is necessary to be considered 'right wing' by social authoritarians than we should embrace the term as a new definition of 'normal'.

                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                Brady Kelly
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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve

                Did she? Was she perhaps hoping they wouldn't ask hre that, and she would make it?


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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  Yeah, it's so fascist to let people marry who they want. It's even more fascist when people like you are denied the right to decide for other people whom to marry.

                  -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                  Fascism (national socialism) is best defined as coopting all institutions of a society to service the political agenda of those who control the natonal government. That is precisely what the gay marriage campaign is all about. This woman stood up and proudly opposed it. She stared into the teeth of the monster and shouted her defiance. Good for her.

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    kmg365 wrote:

                    cross species marriage

                    Is your name Jeremy by any chance?

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                    Brady Kelly
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                    :confused:

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Fascism (national socialism) is best defined as coopting all institutions of a society to service the political agenda of those who control the natonal government. That is precisely what the gay marriage campaign is all about. This woman stood up and proudly opposed it. She stared into the teeth of the monster and shouted her defiance. Good for her.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Brady Kelly
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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      That is precisely what the gay marriage campaign is all about.

                      And everyone that has been conned by this evil movement thought it was just about affording citizens that have committed no crime, and that pay taxes like everybody else, the same rights as everybody else.

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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve

                        Did she? Was she perhaps hoping they wouldn't ask hre that, and she would make it?


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                        Regardless of ones own belief on the issue, the real question is why should the politically correct answer to a question which clearly requests an opininon (Do you think...) be required as a prerequisite to winning a fracking beauty contest? She gave here opinion, and explained it, and apologized in the event her opinion was offensive to anyone. What does not having the "correct" opinion have to do with her qualifications to win or not win the contest. (BTW, I think the whole pageant thing is absurd, sexist and demeaning of women, and this just provides more proof of that - at least the absurd part). I hope they lose what few remaining sponsors they have, and disappear from the scene. The only function of this thinly disguised flesh show is to make money for Donald Trump.

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          That is precisely what the gay marriage campaign is all about.

                          And everyone that has been conned by this evil movement thought it was just about affording citizens that have committed no crime, and that pay taxes like everybody else, the same rights as everybody else.

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                          If that were the real issue here, then why does the gay rights movement find legal civil unions (which provide the same rights) unacceptable? Why the insistence of the word marriage?

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                            As society degrades... maybe in a few years maybe sooner, I expect some will protest for cross species marriage... 20 years ago who would expect current predicament. "What ever makes you happy?" At some point God will owe Sodom an apology or judge this country.

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                            kmg365 wrote:

                            cross species marriage...

                            I think Ilion is already taken... :~

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                            • R Rob Graham

                              Regardless of ones own belief on the issue, the real question is why should the politically correct answer to a question which clearly requests an opininon (Do you think...) be required as a prerequisite to winning a fracking beauty contest? She gave here opinion, and explained it, and apologized in the event her opinion was offensive to anyone. What does not having the "correct" opinion have to do with her qualifications to win or not win the contest. (BTW, I think the whole pageant thing is absurd, sexist and demeaning of women, and this just provides more proof of that - at least the absurd part). I hope they lose what few remaining sponsors they have, and disappear from the scene. The only function of this thinly disguised flesh show is to make money for Donald Trump.

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              Rob Graham wrote:

                              Regardless of ones own belief on the issue, the real question is why should the politically correct answer to a question which clearly requests an opininon (Do you think...) be required as a prerequisite to winning a fracking beauty cont

                              I agree there, and I do feel that she was unjustly prejudiced by her remark, but it kind of goes with the territory that you buy into by entering such a contest.

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                                If that were the real issue here, then why does the gay rights movement find legal civil unions (which provide the same rights) unacceptable? Why the insistence of the word marriage?

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                Maybe because other people find the term 'gay marriage' unacceptable? I don't know, but if it were me I'd settle for civil unionon paper and 'marriage' in practice.

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                                • S Stan Shannon

                                  http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Television/Story?id=7381893&page=2[^] She stood up to the modern moral authoritarianism being forced upon America by liberal and libertarian radicals, even though she knew it would probably cost her the goals she worked so hard to achieve. Defining marriage as between a man and a woman is quintessentially mainstream. If belief in such an ancient, wholesome, normal institution is all that is necessary to be considered 'right wing' by social authoritarians than we should embrace the term as a new definition of 'normal'.

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Le centriste
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                                  You live in a free country: everybody is free to do what they want. You have free speech: everybody should be able to speak their mind without fear, even if they don't agree with you. You live in a country of paradoxes.

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    That is precisely what the gay marriage campaign is all about.

                                    And everyone that has been conned by this evil movement thought it was just about affording citizens that have committed no crime, and that pay taxes like everybody else, the same rights as everybody else.

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                                    Brady Kelly wrote:

                                    And everyone that has been conned by this evil movement thought it was just about affording citizens that have committed no crime, and that pay taxes like everybody else, the same rights as everybody else.

                                    Precisely. It has nothing to do with any of that.

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                      Bigger balls then Hilton, perhaps.

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                                      kmg365 wrote:

                                      Bigger balls then Hilton, perhaps.

                                      Does he like Paris, too?

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                      • K kmg365

                                        As society degrades... maybe in a few years maybe sooner, I expect some will protest for cross species marriage... 20 years ago who would expect current predicament. "What ever makes you happy?" At some point God will owe Sodom an apology or judge this country.

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                                        kmg365 wrote:

                                        I expect some will protest for cross species marriage...

                                        If you look around you at work, are you sure that hasn't already been happening?

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                          kmg365 wrote:

                                          I expect some will protest for cross species marriage...

                                          If you look around you at work, are you sure that hasn't already been happening?

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                          Brady Kelly
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                                          Where does he work? :~

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