M$ and IT industry future
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Who the hell is Daniel Boulet and why is he saying these things about us? :confused: Sorry, I think I'll wait for the movie. Chris
Chris Meech wrote: Who the hell is Daniel Boulet Guy living in the past. He still bitches about W2K being late :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Just want to share with you an interesting article targeting M$ role in software industry. If you've not yet read it, then take a look at it and express your views on: Where you want to go tomorrow[^] Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Java is a tool for creating applications that torture users with its awful speed and its ugly interfaces. Daniel Turini commenting on this article
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Just want to share with you an interesting article targeting M$ role in software industry. If you've not yet read it, then take a look at it and express your views on: Where you want to go tomorrow[^] Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Java is a tool for creating applications that torture users with its awful speed and its ugly interfaces. Daniel Turini commenting on this article
What's the point? It's useless arguing whether MS is a monopoly or not (it is IMO) coz it won't change the reality out there. Everyone knows what MS is, or at least they think they know - saying that Linux presents a viable competitor is simply naive: Linux will never make it to the desktop, hopefully it will grow bigger server-side. I wish I could say with confidence that 30 yrs from now MS will end up like the IBM of today but I can't; MS is too focused and too smart than IBM ever was. Frankly, I can't imagine what can oust MS from its position - i just hope it willl be soon. Brian Azzopardi bibamus, edamus, cras moriemur
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Just want to share with you an interesting article targeting M$ role in software industry. If you've not yet read it, then take a look at it and express your views on: Where you want to go tomorrow[^] Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Java is a tool for creating applications that torture users with its awful speed and its ugly interfaces. Daniel Turini commenting on this article
I've always had a more neutral view on Microsoft, but I note a couple of things. This article seems to be a little old, because the Linux "explosion" has settled down exactly where many predicted it would: an operating system for techies and server farms, not the broad use desktop market. Now, don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Linux. In fact, I keep promising myself I'm going to run both environments. I just haven't taken the time to get Linux and install it. And let's be honest, it takes a significant investment of time and effort. I know this because I know many people at LEAST as technically proficient as me who do know Linux and admit this is the case. In addition, I don't know which VERSION of Linux to run. If this isn't the biggest, fattest irony of all, I don't know what is. I've read reams of postings with Linux evangelists getting into HEATED arguments with eachother over which version is the 'proper' or 'best' version. So with all the hooplah surrounding Linux, I'm told by Linux gurus that some versions 'suck' and some 'are the only one'. Again, this makes the 'choice' of Linux far more complicated than fawning press accounts make it out to be. And again, that's why it'll never dominate the desktop market. But things could change, and we're told that Linux is getting 'easier and easier' all the time. This might be true. Microsoft is a highly aggressive competitor. I have a kind of love-hate relationship with them. But I'm proud to say, when I hate them, I hate them for the right reasons. Too many people hate Microsoft for the wrong reasons. If you don't like Microsoft, don't buy their products. The author of this article indicates he doesn't. Many people who deride Microsoft for causing all the ill in the world: famine, Global Warming(tm), Osama bin Laden, West Nile Virus etc., often proudly claim in the next breath that they don't use Microsoft products. So, if that's the case, what's the problem? Paul
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Just want to share with you an interesting article targeting M$ role in software industry. If you've not yet read it, then take a look at it and express your views on: Where you want to go tomorrow[^] Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Java is a tool for creating applications that torture users with its awful speed and its ugly interfaces. Daniel Turini commenting on this article
It's another of those boring Microsoft bashes. I'm fed up on reading this kind of stuff, why doesn't somebody actual do some work to beat Microsoft instead of just talking about it. It's about time the "competitors" put their money where their mouths are. Give me and my customers something better than Windows and we will switch - Not before. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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It's another of those boring Microsoft bashes. I'm fed up on reading this kind of stuff, why doesn't somebody actual do some work to beat Microsoft instead of just talking about it. It's about time the "competitors" put their money where their mouths are. Give me and my customers something better than Windows and we will switch - Not before. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
I agree... Let's talk to Larry Ellison about starting an OS division. Linux with a REAL Windows shell :) This way he could compete with BOTH Apple and MS at the same time.
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Well, first let us take a look at point #2. if Microsoft has the right to control what is done with its intellectual property (i.e. the W95/W98 boot sequence) then why does Microsoft also have the right to devalue Sun's intellectual property (i.e. the Java goal of write once, run anywhere) by making incompatible changes? Not only is this a gross mischaracterization of what happened, it is just flat out untrue. Java's pipe dream was that it would be a "write once, run anywhere". However the reality was that Java could more accurately be described as "write one, debug everywhere". Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
Not only is this a gross mischaracterization of what happened, it is just flat out untrue. The article is refering to Microsoft's attempt to "enrich the experience for their users" by adding pieces to Java which only ran on Windows machines. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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Who the hell is Daniel Boulet and why is he saying these things about us? :confused: Sorry, I think I'll wait for the movie. Chris
Who the hell is Daniel Boulet and why is he saying these things about us? Does it really matter who he is or why he is saying them? What matters is that you deal with his arguments in and of themselves. (Not that his arguments are great to begin with - I can think of a few better arguments off the top of my head.) ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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I've always had a more neutral view on Microsoft, but I note a couple of things. This article seems to be a little old, because the Linux "explosion" has settled down exactly where many predicted it would: an operating system for techies and server farms, not the broad use desktop market. Now, don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Linux. In fact, I keep promising myself I'm going to run both environments. I just haven't taken the time to get Linux and install it. And let's be honest, it takes a significant investment of time and effort. I know this because I know many people at LEAST as technically proficient as me who do know Linux and admit this is the case. In addition, I don't know which VERSION of Linux to run. If this isn't the biggest, fattest irony of all, I don't know what is. I've read reams of postings with Linux evangelists getting into HEATED arguments with eachother over which version is the 'proper' or 'best' version. So with all the hooplah surrounding Linux, I'm told by Linux gurus that some versions 'suck' and some 'are the only one'. Again, this makes the 'choice' of Linux far more complicated than fawning press accounts make it out to be. And again, that's why it'll never dominate the desktop market. But things could change, and we're told that Linux is getting 'easier and easier' all the time. This might be true. Microsoft is a highly aggressive competitor. I have a kind of love-hate relationship with them. But I'm proud to say, when I hate them, I hate them for the right reasons. Too many people hate Microsoft for the wrong reasons. If you don't like Microsoft, don't buy their products. The author of this article indicates he doesn't. Many people who deride Microsoft for causing all the ill in the world: famine, Global Warming(tm), Osama bin Laden, West Nile Virus etc., often proudly claim in the next breath that they don't use Microsoft products. So, if that's the case, what's the problem? Paul
Many people who deride Microsoft for causing all the ill in the world: famine, Global Warming(tm), Osama bin Laden, West Nile Virus etc.,... Uh, yeah. How many people have actually said that? ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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Many people who deride Microsoft for causing all the ill in the world: famine, Global Warming(tm), Osama bin Laden, West Nile Virus etc.,... Uh, yeah. How many people have actually said that? ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion
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It's another of those boring Microsoft bashes. I'm fed up on reading this kind of stuff, why doesn't somebody actual do some work to beat Microsoft instead of just talking about it. It's about time the "competitors" put their money where their mouths are. Give me and my customers something better than Windows and we will switch - Not before. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
It's another of those boring Microsoft bashes. I'm fed up on reading this kind of stuff, why doesn't somebody actual do some work to beat Microsoft instead of just talking about it. It's about time the "competitors" put their money where their mouths are. Give me and my customers something better than Windows and we will switch - Not before. But do you think it's unreasonable to ask Microsoft to stop anticompetitive behavior which works to prevent any rivals from emerging? True, there's a lot of work to be done to displace Microsoft, but at least the competitors could gain the benefit of a level playing field. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion