GM or Chrysler or Ford
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Even assuming I pay in cash so that my credit card numbers can't be tracked, they could still put camaras in the service stations that don't already have them which could easily identify and track vehicles.
Stan Shannon wrote:
they could still put camaras in the service stations that don't already have them which could easily identify and track vehicles.
certainly. but with an embedded GPS they could stream to a db and literally track you real time. not something I'm willing to support, the ramifications are chilling.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Either way, I can reduce the amount I pay by driving less.
Your gas tax is a function of the price you pay for gas. Both the pretax price of the gas and the efficiency of your engine come into play as well as how far you drive. You certainly don't expect the average state bureacrat to handle three variables at once, do you?
I suppose. Still, I still don't see this as any thing other than an unnecessarily complex consumption tax. Hell, wouldn't increasing taxes on tires be the same thing? The more miles you drive, the more you wear out your tires.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
they could still put camaras in the service stations that don't already have them which could easily identify and track vehicles.
certainly. but with an embedded GPS they could stream to a db and literally track you real time. not something I'm willing to support, the ramifications are chilling.
I don't support it either. but they hardly need GPS to gather information on your travel habits.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
they could still put camaras in the service stations that don't already have them which could easily identify and track vehicles.
certainly. but with an embedded GPS they could stream to a db and literally track you real time. not something I'm willing to support, the ramifications are chilling.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
certainly. but with an embedded GPS
I'd pray for the next big solar storm. Also, what a great target for hackers, and you thought Dish network was sport. BTW, GPS is normally a passive technology - it receives the satellite signals, but doesn't transmit, so you really have to add something active, like OnStar. That however would be both jam-able, and spoof-able. Should provide some smart kids with a good under-the-table income... Seems like a heck of a complicated replacement for just reading the odometer at sale/trade-in.
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Naw, Arizona is "right to work".
I am amused by that phrase every time I hear it, since it has nothing to do with what it purports... (being really the right to hire and fire at will). I guess I missed the sarcasm in the original post... :-\
Rob Graham wrote:
I guess I missed the sarcasm in the original post... Shucks
He got me too. But I am sure I can think of an excuse or something like that.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
certainly. but with an embedded GPS
I'd pray for the next big solar storm. Also, what a great target for hackers, and you thought Dish network was sport. BTW, GPS is normally a passive technology - it receives the satellite signals, but doesn't transmit, so you really have to add something active, like OnStar. That however would be both jam-able, and spoof-able. Should provide some smart kids with a good under-the-table income... Seems like a heck of a complicated replacement for just reading the odometer at sale/trade-in.
Trackers are self-spoofing: how about a fully laden construction plant carrier careering across the Yorkshire Moors at over 100mph? (The best of several malfunctions.)
Rob Graham wrote:
just reading the odometer at sale/trade-in.
You could log up 10 years' back taxes. :)
Bob Emmett
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
certainly. but with an embedded GPS
I'd pray for the next big solar storm. Also, what a great target for hackers, and you thought Dish network was sport. BTW, GPS is normally a passive technology - it receives the satellite signals, but doesn't transmit, so you really have to add something active, like OnStar. That however would be both jam-able, and spoof-able. Should provide some smart kids with a good under-the-table income... Seems like a heck of a complicated replacement for just reading the odometer at sale/trade-in.
Rob Graham wrote:
Seems like a heck of a complicated replacement for just reading the odometer at sale/trade-in.
Very true - and would encourage folks to either drive less, trade their cars in before the tax grew inordinate, or push the car off a bridge.
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Trackers are self-spoofing: how about a fully laden construction plant carrier careering across the Yorkshire Moors at over 100mph? (The best of several malfunctions.)
Rob Graham wrote:
just reading the odometer at sale/trade-in.
You could log up 10 years' back taxes. :)
Bob Emmett
Bob Emmett wrote:
ou could log up 10 years' back taxes. Smile
And, like our new Treasury Secretary, claim not to owe 4 of them due to the statute of limitations... :) (Actually, since annual auto inspections, or at least tag renewals are required in most of the US, and provide an opportunity for tax collection already, adding the mileage tax to this annual requirement would be trivial).
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Rob Graham wrote:
Seems like a heck of a complicated replacement for just reading the odometer at sale/trade-in.
Very true - and would encourage folks to either drive less, trade their cars in before the tax grew inordinate, or push the car off a bridge.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
I'm sure cleaver car dealers would soon figure out how to roll your tax into the note on your new vehicle. Then you could be upside-down to Uncle too.
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I'm sure cleaver car dealers would soon figure out how to roll your tax into the note on your new vehicle. Then you could be upside-down to Uncle too.
Rob Graham wrote:
Then you could be upside-down to Uncle too.
Most wage-earners are for the first 5 months anyway. Shortly, I suspect that'll be 6 or 7 months. . .
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin