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Hackers destroy website - apparently permanently

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  • D Dan Neely

    I haven't see any details about the attack itself, but since permanently destroying a site doesn't really serve any purpose unless you're seeking revenge, my suspicion is that the servers were infected with encrypting extortionware. RSA128 is basically uncrackable (if the NSA or any of their peers have figured out a way, you can be sure they'll never share); which leaves the victims helpless if they don't pay up. :doh:

    It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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    Possible could be extortion - if so hacker can be caught, if not I wonder if the site was totaly destoyed - did the hacker really bother to use a secure disk wipe - suspect not! Hacker must have been familar with site, as he knew of the second server - inside job?

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      Possible could be extortion - if so hacker can be caught, if not I wonder if the site was totaly destoyed - did the hacker really bother to use a secure disk wipe - suspect not! Hacker must have been familar with site, as he knew of the second server - inside job?

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      ... or both servers were connected to the net in a load sharing setup, or the attacker used a worm that spread from the one directly on the net to the second automatically.

      It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        Computers were not there at their time, so they are not morons for not knowing the difference between right and left click. Talking of that, your parents could have known them all if you had taught them. I can see your child calling you a moron sometime in the future... :rolleyes:

        It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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        Lost User
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        ... like about now? :)

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        • B Bob1000

          Think calling them morons etc is to say the least unfair. I for one have sympathy for them, they are the victims of a criminal attack - if you fall victim of a crime it’s not you that has done wrong. Locking doors and having insurance is a (very) good idea - unfortunately their locks were too weak and the insurance company got hit (second server). No one can say their system is a 100% safe - yes you might back up your server, but what happens if the backups get destroyed, say by an upset employee etc., there is always a risk. We just choose the level of risk we are prepared to accept or can pay for. Backing up web sites is harder than backing up an office server, often you don't have access to a physical machine, its either co-located or a 'virtual server' somewhere, perhaps even one that you can't physically get to, implying the backup is over the internet - yuk! Also its the loss to the aviation simulation community - as someone else said there's a 'special place in hell' for this hacker and hopefully one that will be taken up very soon....!

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          Don't disagree really, but hell, if you are going to live in a dangerous place, teeming with criminals with burglary tools (the internet) but you leave your windows open and only insure your building not contents, then you're a gambler - and when gamblers lose I don't have sympathy.

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          • H Henry Minute

            Age: 0 - 9. Parents are the fount of all knowledge and as wise as Solomon Age: 10 - (variable). Parents are the most stupid people ever to have walked the earth. Age: (variable) - end. Turns out, parents really were the wisest, most intelligent people ever, and I do mean EVER!

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            It is amazing how much parents learn and improve between a child's age of 18 and 25.

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            • B Bob1000

              Think calling them morons etc is to say the least unfair. I for one have sympathy for them, they are the victims of a criminal attack - if you fall victim of a crime it’s not you that has done wrong. Locking doors and having insurance is a (very) good idea - unfortunately their locks were too weak and the insurance company got hit (second server). No one can say their system is a 100% safe - yes you might back up your server, but what happens if the backups get destroyed, say by an upset employee etc., there is always a risk. We just choose the level of risk we are prepared to accept or can pay for. Backing up web sites is harder than backing up an office server, often you don't have access to a physical machine, its either co-located or a 'virtual server' somewhere, perhaps even one that you can't physically get to, implying the backup is over the internet - yuk! Also its the loss to the aviation simulation community - as someone else said there's a 'special place in hell' for this hacker and hopefully one that will be taken up very soon....!

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              W Balboos GHB
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              I'm not massively involved in web development - I run some websites but they're not much to speak of (and in some cases, inherited). BUT: Now that I've a DLink DNS-323 NAS, it will do scheduled ftp backups for me - and it does. Even for those hosted free, on Yahoo! (for now, at least), I keep the equivalent of a backup: all the development is on my PC, copies uploaded when changed. I will be recreating that site on an ftp capable site - I have the source. So - one can have sympathy for innocents who are victims of Heartless Hackers, but people managing a server for a decade or more? Are they so insular in their flight simulator that they don't keep a true external copy of their source data (and history, for that matter) ? ? Sympathy is well spent on victims - but these people victimized themselves. One may shake their head, but more in disbelief than sympathy. (Oh, my heart has indeed turned to stone).

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
              "How do you find out if you're unwanted if everyone you try to ask tells you to stop bothering them and just go away?" - Balboos HaGadol

              "It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol

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