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  • O Oakman

    Looking at what's going on these days, I find myself wondering whether Pakistan will nuke India, or North Korea will nuke Japan, or Israel will nuke Iran first. My bet is on the Supreme Beloved Leader. Theoretically China holds his leash, but I suspect that as he becomes more and more divorced from reality, the leash becomes less and less powerful.

    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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    Stan Shannon
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    I think it is even money between Iran and Israel. Kim whats his name in North Korea will almost certainly be taken out by his own people before he actually tries to nuke someone. And, in any case, he is simply playing a game and having too much fun doing it to ruin it by actually doing anything. Iran and Israel define political instability and unrefined white hot hate. And frankly, who really gives a shit? The rest of us would all be a hell of a lot better of if that entire mess would just disappear in a nuclear fire ball some sunny morning.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      Looking at what's going on these days, I find myself wondering whether Pakistan will nuke India, or North Korea will nuke Japan, or Israel will nuke Iran first. My bet is on the Supreme Beloved Leader. Theoretically China holds his leash, but I suspect that as he becomes more and more divorced from reality, the leash becomes less and less powerful.

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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      Mike Gaskey
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      Israel takes out Iran, it simply has to in order to survive. I'll give odds it happens before the end of the year.

      Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        I think it is even money between Iran and Israel. Kim whats his name in North Korea will almost certainly be taken out by his own people before he actually tries to nuke someone. And, in any case, he is simply playing a game and having too much fun doing it to ruin it by actually doing anything. Iran and Israel define political instability and unrefined white hot hate. And frankly, who really gives a shit? The rest of us would all be a hell of a lot better of if that entire mess would just disappear in a nuclear fire ball some sunny morning.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Sebastian Schneider
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        Easy for you to say, you're probably far enough away from them.

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        • S Sebastian Schneider

          Easy for you to say, you're probably far enough away from them.

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          Stan Shannon
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          Sebastian Schneider wrote:

          Easy for you to say, you're probably far enough away from them.

          And I would like for it to stay that way.

          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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          • O Oakman

            Looking at what's going on these days, I find myself wondering whether Pakistan will nuke India, or North Korea will nuke Japan, or Israel will nuke Iran first. My bet is on the Supreme Beloved Leader. Theoretically China holds his leash, but I suspect that as he becomes more and more divorced from reality, the leash becomes less and less powerful.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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            Hopefully the U.S. will nuke Israel first, before they drag us into another no-win war. I'm tired of American soldiers being used as Israel's mercenaries to "take out" their "enemies".

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              Israel takes out Iran, it simply has to in order to survive. I'll give odds it happens before the end of the year.

              Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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              Oakman
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              Mike Gaskey wrote:

              Israel takes out Iran, it simply has to in order to survive. I'll give odds it happens before the end of the year

              I think I agree - with one demurer: Israel will try to do it with conventional weapons, not nukes. If it turns atomic, it will be because Iran has bombs, or dust.

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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              • E Ed Gadziemski

                Hopefully the U.S. will nuke Israel first, before they drag us into another no-win war. I'm tired of American soldiers being used as Israel's mercenaries to "take out" their "enemies".

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                Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                I'm tired of American soldiers being used as Israel's mercenaries to "take out" their "enemies".

                Why the quotes? Sentence reads the same without 'em. I admire the hell out of Israel, but I more than agree. We need to stop making like the world's policeman. Get out of Kosevo, Iraq, Korea, the Phillipines, Germany, England, Australia, Darfur, Georgia and anywhere else we're being asked to fight other's battles or guard their homelands.

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                • O Oakman

                  Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                  I'm tired of American soldiers being used as Israel's mercenaries to "take out" their "enemies".

                  Why the quotes? Sentence reads the same without 'em. I admire the hell out of Israel, but I more than agree. We need to stop making like the world's policeman. Get out of Kosevo, Iraq, Korea, the Phillipines, Germany, England, Australia, Darfur, Georgia and anywhere else we're being asked to fight other's battles or guard their homelands.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                  Oakman wrote:

                  We need to stop making like the world's policeman. Get out of Kosevo, Iraq, Korea, the Phillipines, Germany, England, Australia, Darfur, Georgia and anywhere else we're being asked to fight other's battles or guard their homelands.

                  George Washington would agree. however, back on point: I don't believe Israel would want us to fight her battles if for no other reason that we can no longer be depended upon to stick if it got difficult.

                  Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                  • O Oakman

                    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                    I'm tired of American soldiers being used as Israel's mercenaries to "take out" their "enemies".

                    Why the quotes? Sentence reads the same without 'em. I admire the hell out of Israel, but I more than agree. We need to stop making like the world's policeman. Get out of Kosevo, Iraq, Korea, the Phillipines, Germany, England, Australia, Darfur, Georgia and anywhere else we're being asked to fight other's battles or guard their homelands.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                    Oakman wrote:

                    We need to stop making like the world's policeman. Get out of Kosevo, Iraq, Korea, the Phillipines, Germany, England, Australia, Darfur, Georgia and anywhere else we're being asked to fight other's battles or guard their homelands.

                    Couldn't agree more but how are you being asked to fight our battles or guard our homeland? I reckon you do pretty well out of the limited involvement you have over here. Here's an old joke for ya What's the difference between an Australian and a tub of yogurt? One has culture!

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                      Oakman wrote:

                      We need to stop making like the world's policeman. Get out of Kosevo, Iraq, Korea, the Phillipines, Germany, England, Australia, Darfur, Georgia and anywhere else we're being asked to fight other's battles or guard their homelands.

                      Couldn't agree more but how are you being asked to fight our battles or guard our homeland? I reckon you do pretty well out of the limited involvement you have over here. Here's an old joke for ya What's the difference between an Australian and a tub of yogurt? One has culture!

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                      Josh Gray wrote:

                      I reckon you do pretty well out of the limited involvement you have over here.

                      I'm not saying that our respective countries should ignore each other - just disband ANZUS ( or at least the US/Australia part. hey, you've got a pretty opera house.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                      • O Oakman

                        Josh Gray wrote:

                        I reckon you do pretty well out of the limited involvement you have over here.

                        I'm not saying that our respective countries should ignore each other - just disband ANZUS ( or at least the US/Australia part. hey, you've got a pretty opera house.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        hey, you've got a pretty opera house.

                        Thanks to a Danish guy who eventually resigned from the project over the way he was treated by our government at the time! Personally I prefer the bridge. Hell of thing to look at up close

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