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  • L Lost User

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    You live in the UK. You are a nation of 'yes men'.

    And you lived in the UK for how long? Never? Thought so.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    You have camera's on every corner with authorities watching.

    Are you really so much in awe of "the authorities"? The Authorities behind the city/town centre CCTV cameras are the Local Councils - not the Police, not MI5. Local Councils are democratically elected. Councillors are approachable human beings, and they run the council, not the jack-in-office desk jockeys. We permit CCTVs because we perceive their benefits. Outside of city/town centres, there are virtually no CCTVs, other than those which are privately owned: shops, factories, homes, etc.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    about the school girl who asked her teacher if she could work with another partner because hers didn't speak english

    Possibly you don't appreciate that the news media do not report ordinary, boring, daily life. Thus any accounts you read will be sensational stories of officiousness, such as the Codie Stott case.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    The authorities took her in for questioning and took her DNA sample.

    Whatever Miss Scott said (and we have only her word as to the conversation between herself and the teacher), the teacher should have been able to deal with the matter within the classroom. The incident having been reported to the community police officer attached to the school, the police have to follow procedure, which involves fingerprinting and a DNA swab. Currently, Miss Scott's DNA data will be retained for 6 years. However, further Human Rights action will probably result in all DNA data for those arrested but not successfully prosecuted being removed from the database.

    Bob Emmett

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    Bob Emmett wrote:

    Are you really so much in awe of "the authorities"? The Authorities behind the city/town centre CCTV cameras are the Local Councils - not the Police, not MI5. Local Councils are democratically elected. Councillors are approachable human beings, and they run the council, not the jack-in-office desk jockeys. We permit CCTVs because we perceive their benefits. Outside of city/town centres, there are virtually no CCTVs, other than those which are privately owned: shops, factories, homes, etc.

    It doesn't matter if it is local or federal. You know federal officials can look at the video by asking your councilor right? You permit it? :laugh: That is the fucking funniest thing I've heard this morning. A nation of 'yes men' indeed.

    Wake Up Call[^]

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      Bob Emmett wrote:

      Are you really so much in awe of "the authorities"? The Authorities behind the city/town centre CCTV cameras are the Local Councils - not the Police, not MI5. Local Councils are democratically elected. Councillors are approachable human beings, and they run the council, not the jack-in-office desk jockeys. We permit CCTVs because we perceive their benefits. Outside of city/town centres, there are virtually no CCTVs, other than those which are privately owned: shops, factories, homes, etc.

      It doesn't matter if it is local or federal. You know federal officials can look at the video by asking your councilor right? You permit it? :laugh: That is the fucking funniest thing I've heard this morning. A nation of 'yes men' indeed.

      Wake Up Call[^]

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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      You know federal officials can look at the video by asking your councilor right?

      Well, duh! Of course the police and MI5 can view the "vidoes". That is why the cameras are installed: crime detection. The point is that we could have them removed, they remain because they have proved to be of benefit to us. They have been used not only to provide evidence for the police but also against the police.

      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      A nation of 'yes men' indeed.

      "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."

      Bob Emmett

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        Daniel Ferguson wrote:

        You're right, you can't bring a gun to some special places like a courtroom or an airport. Both those places have security checkpoints to make sure nobody brings a gun in. Colleges and universities are too spread out to be able to enforce that kind of security though.

        So if you can do it, then you should?

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        This is probably obvious, but I don't get it, if I can do ... what?

        You never ever could win a war / That's what you have to learn / Here everybody is a loser / You will get nothing in return - "Fortunes of War", Funker Vogt

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        • S Synaptrik

          Aside from inheriting Guinness I'd say our micro-brews beat to crap anything you can bring forth from Young onward. :)

          This statement is false

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          Synaptrik wrote:

          our micro-brews beat to crap anything you can bring forth

          Synaptrik wrote:

          This statement is false

          How observant you are? And when was the last time you were in the UK, drinking real ale?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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