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  • S Stan Shannon

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    In America's early days.

    Where? Every town, county and state in the country had laws defining acceptable behavior and unaceptable behavior on the part of their citizens, all worked out by the citizens themselves.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    Stan Shannon wrote:

    all worked out by the citizens themselves.

    It ain't like that today. You do what you are told to do these days. You don't have a say in the laws. Most people are so ignorant they don't know how government works. They don't vote. They say "Oh well, there is nothing I can do"

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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      all worked out by the citizens themselves.

      It ain't like that today. You do what you are told to do these days. You don't have a say in the laws. Most people are so ignorant they don't know how government works. They don't vote. They say "Oh well, there is nothing I can do"

      Wake Up Call[^]

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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      It ain't like that today. You do what you are told to do these days. You don't have a say in the laws. Most people are so ignorant they don't know how government works. They don't vote. They say "Oh well, there is nothing I can do"

      But your original example certainly is. A home owners association is a grop of home owners who subscribe to a set of behaviors defined by themselves. They collectively make and enoforce their own rules. No one from the federal government is coming in and telling them they can't have patriotic stickers on their cars. They made that rule up for themselves - freely.

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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      • S Stan Shannon

        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        It ain't like that today. You do what you are told to do these days. You don't have a say in the laws. Most people are so ignorant they don't know how government works. They don't vote. They say "Oh well, there is nothing I can do"

        But your original example certainly is. A home owners association is a grop of home owners who subscribe to a set of behaviors defined by themselves. They collectively make and enoforce their own rules. No one from the federal government is coming in and telling them they can't have patriotic stickers on their cars. They made that rule up for themselves - freely.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Stan Shannon wrote:

        They collectively make and enoforce their own rules

        From the article it looked as if a very small group or even a single individual was making the rules.

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        • O Oakman

          Bob Emmett wrote:

          Blair has not been the UK's Prime Minister since June 2007, long before Putin became Russia's Prime Minister.

          are you trying to confuse the captain with the facts?

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          Oakman wrote:

          are you trying to confuse the captain with the facts?

          Not to fear, everything confuses him. :laugh:

          "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            Its a homeownwers association. A local community

            What happens when all the local communities govern like fascist dictators?

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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            What happens when all the local communities govern like fascist dictators?

            Stan will dance in the streets and declare his job done.

            "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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