New world order
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't know what mindset he is "dealing" with.
I don't suppose he does. Do you fully understand your own mindset?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Don't go on acting like you are superior when you ain't.
Heaven forbid that you think anybody else is superior, each and every one of us all have differing qualities, differing experiences and differing abilities. Thus, nobody is suggesting they are inferior or superior to you, well I'm not anyhow! But if you want to improve your lot then go back to school (or college), listen and learn how to things are done in a "proper" fashion.
You eurochum are really wipped. You can't think for yourself, you have to have some kind of authority do it for you. You have to be told what to think and how to think.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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You eurochum are really wipped. You can't think for yourself, you have to have some kind of authority do it for you. You have to be told what to think and how to think.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Christian Graus wrote:
Here's another question, assuming this cabal of power exists, what benefit would they have in creating a world where we are all locked down and have no freedom ? I mean, it can only make them poorer, so what's the benefit ?
It wont make them poorer. You either work, you or starve, or be put in a labor camp. China is a world superpower, and their government is absolutely brutal. They work for a few bucks a day in the factories the big guys make all the profit. They don't want anyone to be able to question authority or have the capability to resist.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It wont make them poorer.
Of course it will. There will be no growing stock market if there's no free economy. People won't invent stuff if it cannot benefit them, so the rich will have fewer toys. Putting people in labour camps did not help the USSR, or the Nazis.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
China is a world superpower, and their government is absolutely brutal
In what way are they brutal ? They are not champions of human rights, but people do prosper there, under capitalism and a free market, so long as they have no political complaints.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They work for a few bucks a day in the factories the big guys make all the profit
They work for that little, because it represents good money to them. The conditions are not good, often, but all of this, is the West's fault, not China's. If we refused to buy the Nikes made by 8 year olds, they would stop making them,
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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Christian Graus wrote:
OK, so every person who believes this, has to come to the conclusion themself, without any sort of proof being offered ? This sounds more like a religion than a statement of fact to me.
No you are not supposed to just believe it. You are supposed to look things up, research, dig into it like I said.
Christian Graus wrote:
What you mean is, once you accept the theory, you can start to decide how each current event, no matter what it is, 'proves' the theory to you. It's like church. If you have faith, you see God everywhere. If you don't, you don't.
The proof is in the pudding. The proof is the world we live in. Knowledge seems to work similarly for everything. If you are ignorant, your mindscape is much smaller.
Christian Graus wrote:
so why don't they offer at least SOME proof, or a reference to where to find it ?
They show clips of news articles backing up their claims. You can search up the headline and find it for yourself. They show important quotes, reference books, and so on. Stop being in denial. That is all you are doing.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are supposed to look things up, research, dig into it like I said.
What credible doco expects me to go and find the same things out they did, without telling me where to look ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The proof is the world we live in.
See, we live in different worlds. You're poor and looking for someone to blame. I am reasonably successful, free to live as I want, and therefore unable to see what you see, because the oppression you live under is not global, it's specific to the way you live.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They show clips of news articles backing up their claims
I saw plenty of clips from their website, and a repeated use of one or two newspapers. What you need to do, is ask youself, what if some of this is true ( for example, I don't doubt that there was some group of people meeting in that building ). Does that prove the rest ? You need to distinguish between what they prove, what you can prove, and what is presented with no proof whatsoever.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Christian, you are not dealing with the mindset of an academic.
You don't know what mindset he is "dealing" with. Don't go on acting like you are superior when you ain't.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Don't go on acting like you are superior when you ain't.
sorry, this made me laugh. My daughter does sometimes speak like she lives in a trailer, but thankfully we have not descended to 'ain't' yet, and she's responding well to being called on it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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It sucked?! Now there's a surprise! :omg:
Well, I couldn't bear to watch any more ( I will try, through my trip ). But, I did watch it, I did think about what it was saying, and those are my honest thoughts on the subject. so, I feel I've been fair about it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It wont make them poorer.
Of course it will. There will be no growing stock market if there's no free economy. People won't invent stuff if it cannot benefit them, so the rich will have fewer toys. Putting people in labour camps did not help the USSR, or the Nazis.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
China is a world superpower, and their government is absolutely brutal
In what way are they brutal ? They are not champions of human rights, but people do prosper there, under capitalism and a free market, so long as they have no political complaints.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They work for a few bucks a day in the factories the big guys make all the profit
They work for that little, because it represents good money to them. The conditions are not good, often, but all of this, is the West's fault, not China's. If we refused to buy the Nikes made by 8 year olds, they would stop making them,
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
What is this some kind of game? You ask questions with obvious answers and expect me to research it for you. I gave china as an example of a thriving controlled economy and brutalized people but you deny even that. If you want to be a fucking ignorant prick who wants to pick at everything through an ignorant mask thats fine. You don't keep yourself informed about current events, you refuse to think, you just want to stay in fairyland because it scares you to think about it. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself. End of discussion, we are through here.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Well, I couldn't bear to watch any more ( I will try, through my trip ). But, I did watch it, I did think about what it was saying, and those are my honest thoughts on the subject. so, I feel I've been fair about it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
You haven't even watched it yet you are in here bashing it? You were supposed to watch it. The second half has more hard evidence.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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What is this some kind of game? You ask questions with obvious answers and expect me to research it for you. I gave china as an example of a thriving controlled economy and brutalized people but you deny even that. If you want to be a fucking ignorant prick who wants to pick at everything through an ignorant mask thats fine. You don't keep yourself informed about current events, you refuse to think, you just want to stay in fairyland because it scares you to think about it. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself. End of discussion, we are through here.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I gave china as an example of a thriving controlled economy and brutalized people but you deny even that
It's not true, for those who are not dissidents. The general population is NOT oppressed or forced to work.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't keep yourself informed about current events, you refuse to think, you just want to stay in fairyland because it scares you to think about it. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself. End of discussion, we are through here.
Translated - when you confront my beliefs, I have no choice but to run and hide.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I gave china as an example of a thriving controlled economy and brutalized people but you deny even that
It's not true, for those who are not dissidents. The general population is NOT oppressed or forced to work.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't keep yourself informed about current events, you refuse to think, you just want to stay in fairyland because it scares you to think about it. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself. End of discussion, we are through here.
Translated - when you confront my beliefs, I have no choice but to run and hide.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
Christian Graus wrote:
It's not true, for those who are not dissidents. The general population is NOT oppressed or forced to work.
Absolute denial, but oh well, you are that type of person.
Christian Graus wrote:
Translated - when you confront my beliefs, I have no choice but to run and hide.
I think it is the other way around, you retreat into your mental comfort zone when your confront my mindset. You go into your little fluffy place where the government is the mother care and the world is made of rainbows and we are all in a circle holding hands with butterflies all around. It is like you are programmed to overload when you hear the truth, the truth is dangerous to you and you must resist.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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You haven't even watched it yet you are in here bashing it? You were supposed to watch it. The second half has more hard evidence.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The second half has more hard evidence.
I suppose that's opposed to none? Does it have more spooky music and grainy, blown-up videos?
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's not true, for those who are not dissidents. The general population is NOT oppressed or forced to work.
Absolute denial, but oh well, you are that type of person.
Christian Graus wrote:
Translated - when you confront my beliefs, I have no choice but to run and hide.
I think it is the other way around, you retreat into your mental comfort zone when your confront my mindset. You go into your little fluffy place where the government is the mother care and the world is made of rainbows and we are all in a circle holding hands with butterflies all around. It is like you are programmed to overload when you hear the truth, the truth is dangerous to you and you must resist.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
Do you think it's just a coincidence that people who believe in one conspiracy theory almost always believe in all of them?
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Do you think it's just a coincidence that people who believe in one conspiracy theory almost always believe in all of them?
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Do you think it's just a coincidence that people who believe in one conspiracy theory almost always believe in all of them?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Do you think it's just a coincidence that people who believe in one conspiracy theory almost always believe in all of them?
Its called using a little more of your insight than most people do. Most people are highly domesticated, compartmentalized, and completely helpless without society. They don't pay attention to what goes on in the world except for what underwear their favorite celebrity is wearing and who she is fucking. They care about their fictional TV shows more than anything else. They don't really think about anything serious all that much. People are childlike and expect to be taken care of by their authorities (the new parents).
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Do you think it's just a coincidence that people who believe in one conspiracy theory almost always believe in all of them?
Its called using a little more of your insight than most people do. Most people are highly domesticated, compartmentalized, and completely helpless without society. They don't pay attention to what goes on in the world except for what underwear their favorite celebrity is wearing and who she is fucking. They care about their fictional TV shows more than anything else. They don't really think about anything serious all that much. People are childlike and expect to be taken care of by their authorities (the new parents).
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
Was that before or after Roswell?
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Was that before or after Roswell?
No. Society does that especially when your currency is hijacked by monopoly men who will not be transparent whatsoever. The Federal Reserve refuses to be audited or answer Congresses questions with strait answers, even threatening to crash the economy even more if we find out what they are doing with our money. They control the economy and they are using peoples ignorance to their advantage in a larger scheme. Please research how the Federal Reserve works, fractional reserve banking, and how money works. That is your problem, its all a mystery to you so you think its all ghostly when someone explains what they are doing. Its pure ignorance and prejudice. You have nothing you can use against me on this. You are a n ignorant stereotyping prejudice fool if you go on like this. You just don't pay attention to the world around you, it is your number one problem.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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No. Society does that especially when your currency is hijacked by monopoly men who will not be transparent whatsoever. The Federal Reserve refuses to be audited or answer Congresses questions with strait answers, even threatening to crash the economy even more if we find out what they are doing with our money. They control the economy and they are using peoples ignorance to their advantage in a larger scheme. Please research how the Federal Reserve works, fractional reserve banking, and how money works. That is your problem, its all a mystery to you so you think its all ghostly when someone explains what they are doing. Its pure ignorance and prejudice. You have nothing you can use against me on this. You are a n ignorant stereotyping prejudice fool if you go on like this. You just don't pay attention to the world around you, it is your number one problem.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
They do all this at Area 51, right?
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They do all this at Area 51, right?
Get lost!
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Get lost!
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
The Jews do it, whilst they're flying planes into buildings! :laugh:
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The Jews do it, whilst they're flying planes into buildings! :laugh:
You know, you really aren't that smart. You are a kid who tries to fit in but cant. People think you are a dork dweeb. You are lonely, all you have is your books and the internet but you don't even know whats going on in the world. How pathetic, you were even forgotten on your birthday :(( Next time you pretend to be smart, think about how much of a dorky little kid you are. MmmmKay..?
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949