Four Fallacies of Smart People
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Wrong - smart people tend to be more aware of their limitations.
What are yours?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
A fallacy of dumb people is the belief that they understand the minds of smart people.
Well, I'm smart so I know what I'm talking about.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
What are yours?
I'm obviously not going to tell you that.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, I'm smart so I know what I'm talking about.
:laugh:
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I know I know... Less is more, weakness is strength, you live in a liberal socialist utopia.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
See how you keep repeating the same crap every time you realise you can't possibly debate your position with me ? This is the third time today we've run a thread to exhaustion because I answer your false accusations, and you have no come back.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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You can jerk off and fantasize about this all you want, but you are completely out of touch with reality. Guns in the home do not make you safer. On aggregate, they make you more likely to be killed by a family member, and being in a gun toting society makes you more likely to die in a home invasion or robbery attempt.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
but you are completely out of touch with reality.
You are the one completely out of touch with reality. I am just glad some American's are holding on to the constitution and a free liberated natural normal independent self-sufficient self-empowered way of life ( now called terrorists ).
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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See how you keep repeating the same crap every time you realise you can't possibly debate your position with me ? This is the third time today we've run a thread to exhaustion because I answer your false accusations, and you have no come back.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
and you have no come back.
Thats because you get into that weird false reality BS.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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So you are the one your post was referring to ? You're the one who is smart and ergo has the 'four fallacies of smart people' ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I admit, I've thought that way in the past, so have you.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Yes, I did. I'm not saying that sort of thing cannot or does not happen. I am saying that in situations like that, where you are taken by surprise, you're still better off if someone is trying to bash you, than shoot you, and you would be no better off from owning a gun. In any case, I thought they were thinking that it was a murder/suicide, or that a family member was somehow involved ? The ability of a disgruntled teen to kill their family and themselves, as often happens in the US with guns, and I've never heard of happening here, is one more reason not to own a gun. Would you like to be CSS's dad and have a gun in the house ? Didn't think so.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I am saying that in situations like that, where you are taken by surprise, you're still better off if someone is trying to bash you, than shoot you, and you would be no better off from owning a gun.
I agree.
Christian Graus wrote:
In any case, I thought they were thinking that it was a murder/suicide, or that a family member was somehow involved ?
I was under the impression that they had ruled that out, but I could be wrong.
Christian Graus wrote:
Would you like to be CSS's dad
*puke*
Christian Graus wrote:
and have a gun in the house ?
But wouldn't that mean I could dispose of him at my leisure? Then I wouldn't have to keep listening to him shoot at the UFOs in the sky.
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Christian Graus wrote:
and you have no come back.
Thats because you get into that weird false reality BS.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
Wrong. I replied at length about the accusations you made to me, I explained how money makes me more free than a gun, but at the same time made clear that I don't love money for itself. I wrote a long reply, and you came back with 'less is more, let the government control you', a bunch of BS that ignored my reply and basically repeated your delusions. THAT is the pattern. I answer, you run and hide in your conspiracy theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
What are yours?
I'm obviously not going to tell you that.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, I'm smart so I know what I'm talking about.
:laugh:
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
I'm obviously not going to tell you that.
You already have. You leak a lot of personal information over time. You are one of those strange kids who don't fit in with the rest of the crowd.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Christian Graus wrote:
but you are completely out of touch with reality.
You are the one completely out of touch with reality. I am just glad some American's are holding on to the constitution and a free liberated natural normal independent self-sufficient self-empowered way of life ( now called terrorists ).
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are the one completely out of touch with reality.
No, I am not. I should sit in my window every day and night to watch people to shoot, in case they come to attack me ? That makes me free ? You're insane
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I am just glad some American's are holding on to the constitution and a free liberated natural normal independent self-sufficient self-empowered way of life ( now called terrorists ).
See, once again, you betray your love of insane conspiracy theories. What you're doing is arguing with a straw man. You claim that you're called a terrorist for being 'free', 'liberated' and 'normal'. Your TV and radio does this all the time, it panders to the predisposed ideas of both left and right. All it does, is keep you ignorant, while providing a caricature of the opposing view that you feel superior for rejecting, when in fact, no-one holds the views you accuse them of. That you do this to me, shows you do it naturally, or you're just applying the caricature you got on talk back radio to me, because you're incapable of independent thought. I live a liberated life, more than you. I showed that earlier today, but you refused to answer. I am self suffient and self empowered, more than you. I would hope I am natural and normal, I am certainly independant. More than you. And of course, you have no reply, so you'll answer with some comment about welfare, or carbon credits. Anything to deflect from your once again plainfully clear inadequacies.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I admit, I've thought that way in the past, so have you.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
I know from experience that I am smarter than most people, that doesn't mean I'd go around saying I am smart.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Wrong. I replied at length about the accusations you made to me, I explained how money makes me more free than a gun, but at the same time made clear that I don't love money for itself. I wrote a long reply, and you came back with 'less is more, let the government control you', a bunch of BS that ignored my reply and basically repeated your delusions. THAT is the pattern. I answer, you run and hide in your conspiracy theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
THAT is the pattern. I answer, you run and hide in your conspiracy theories.
No, its just that you can't intellectually rise above society itself and look at it from a greater perspective. You don't buy freedom, that is all there is to it. Simple as that.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
I'm obviously not going to tell you that.
You already have. You leak a lot of personal information over time. You are one of those strange kids who don't fit in with the rest of the crowd.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
Stop talking now.
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I know from experience that I am smarter than most people, that doesn't mean I'd go around saying I am smart.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I know from experience that I am smarter than most people
Christian Graus wrote:
that doesn't mean I'd go around saying I am smart.
Neither do I. I've noticed that people feel threatened if they think you are smart. Some people can get pretty nasty if you start using big words or talk about history or science.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are the one completely out of touch with reality.
No, I am not. I should sit in my window every day and night to watch people to shoot, in case they come to attack me ? That makes me free ? You're insane
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I am just glad some American's are holding on to the constitution and a free liberated natural normal independent self-sufficient self-empowered way of life ( now called terrorists ).
See, once again, you betray your love of insane conspiracy theories. What you're doing is arguing with a straw man. You claim that you're called a terrorist for being 'free', 'liberated' and 'normal'. Your TV and radio does this all the time, it panders to the predisposed ideas of both left and right. All it does, is keep you ignorant, while providing a caricature of the opposing view that you feel superior for rejecting, when in fact, no-one holds the views you accuse them of. That you do this to me, shows you do it naturally, or you're just applying the caricature you got on talk back radio to me, because you're incapable of independent thought. I live a liberated life, more than you. I showed that earlier today, but you refused to answer. I am self suffient and self empowered, more than you. I would hope I am natural and normal, I am certainly independant. More than you. And of course, you have no reply, so you'll answer with some comment about welfare, or carbon credits. Anything to deflect from your once again plainfully clear inadequacies.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
You claim that you're called a terrorist for being 'free', 'liberated' and 'normal'.
I'm neither free, liberated, or normal. I've been enslaved by the system.
Christian Graus wrote:
Your TV and radio does this all the time, it panders to the predisposed ideas of both left and right. All it does, is keep you ignorant, while providing a caricature of the opposing view that you feel superior for rejecting
I agree, the left right system is nothing but a system to keep us divided so we can be conquered.
Christian Graus wrote:
because you're incapable of independent thought.
I have been an independent thinker for most of my life. I don't watch TV anymore, and when I did it was mostly for educational purposes. I got tired of the BS and the commercials.
Christian Graus wrote:
I am certainly independant. More than you.
Well, that needs to be taken care of. You may be forced to take a series of injections soon for the Swine flu.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Yes, I did. I'm not saying that sort of thing cannot or does not happen. I am saying that in situations like that, where you are taken by surprise, you're still better off if someone is trying to bash you, than shoot you, and you would be no better off from owning a gun. In any case, I thought they were thinking that it was a murder/suicide, or that a family member was somehow involved ? The ability of a disgruntled teen to kill their family and themselves, as often happens in the US with guns, and I've never heard of happening here, is one more reason not to own a gun. Would you like to be CSS's dad and have a gun in the house ? Didn't think so.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Less is more, weakness is strength, truth is false.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
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Christian Graus wrote:
You claim that you're called a terrorist for being 'free', 'liberated' and 'normal'.
I'm neither free, liberated, or normal. I've been enslaved by the system.
Christian Graus wrote:
Your TV and radio does this all the time, it panders to the predisposed ideas of both left and right. All it does, is keep you ignorant, while providing a caricature of the opposing view that you feel superior for rejecting
I agree, the left right system is nothing but a system to keep us divided so we can be conquered.
Christian Graus wrote:
because you're incapable of independent thought.
I have been an independent thinker for most of my life. I don't watch TV anymore, and when I did it was mostly for educational purposes. I got tired of the BS and the commercials.
Christian Graus wrote:
I am certainly independant. More than you.
Well, that needs to be taken care of. You may be forced to take a series of injections soon for the Swine flu.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm neither free, liberated, or normal. I've been enslaved by the system.
So, your gun has not helped you then ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I agree, the left right system is nothing but a system to keep us divided so we can be conquered.
I think that is especially true in the US, where not meaningful dialogue between the opposing camps or even understanding of their position, seems to take place.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, that needs to be taken care of. You may be forced to take a series of injections soon for the Swine flu.
There you go again. First of all, no vaccine will do anything more than protect from swine flu. Second, I don't see how anyone can be forced to take them. Third, what if we did ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Less is more, weakness is strength, truth is false.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Less is more, weakness is strength, truth is false.
I understand that this is your code for 'I can't answer you', but why not just not answer ? BTW, you've never explained what any of this means, or why you attribute these statements to me so often
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
THAT is the pattern. I answer, you run and hide in your conspiracy theories.
No, its just that you can't intellectually rise above society itself and look at it from a greater perspective. You don't buy freedom, that is all there is to it. Simple as that.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, its just that you can't intellectually rise above society itself and look at it from a greater perspective
This is BS. Rising above is a code word for ignoring my thought out reponses and responding with phrases you learned from you tube videos ? No, I have answered you and you have been incapable of meaningful reply. That is all.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You don't buy freedom, that is all there is to it. Simple as that.
You can't buy freedom, if you are truly enslaved. But, not having money, is it's own slavery. Not having a gun, is not a form of slavery. My only point was that I am more free than you, because I am not held back by poverty, while owning a gun does not give you any freedom whatsoever.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I know from experience that I am smarter than most people
Christian Graus wrote:
that doesn't mean I'd go around saying I am smart.
Neither do I. I've noticed that people feel threatened if they think you are smart. Some people can get pretty nasty if you start using big words or talk about history or science.
"The task of saving the earth's environment must and will become the central organizing principle of the post-Cold War world." Senator Al Gore Putting People First 1992 ------ "The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923 ------ If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." O'Brien to Winston George Orwell 1984 1949
Not that you actually know anything about science. You haven't the faintest idea of how nerves or muscles work.
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Not that you actually know anything about science. You haven't the faintest idea of how nerves or muscles work.