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Are software engineer that cheap?

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  • S sharp_k

    if it is a 3 month contract position, how does it come to 45K?

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    Dan Neely
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    The term you're looking for is annual rate. If it's a 3mo position you get 1/4th of it, just like if your hourly rate is $30 and you bill your customer for 30m, you get $15. :rolleyes:

    The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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    • S sharp_k

      I just received a call from redmond based recruiter (client microsoft). It was 'software design engineer in test 1' position, with 6 month to 1 year of experience. After asking all the question about my experience, they say the maximum they can offer is 22$/hr with no benifits. Should an engineer be paid that low? Does it look alllright? I know microsoft reputation is not great but but i think it is the agency who is making big here. What do you ppl think? Any such experience. I have been offered such salary ranges before by this company and it seems it is ok.

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      Mike Marynowski
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      Microsoft starts employees at $80,000 USD + benefits for full-time software testing positions in Redmond. I don't mean an internal "beta tester" - I mean a software engineer/developer who actually writes tests and such. My friend got a job at Microsoft right out of university as a tester (since has moved to Vancouver and still works for MS). He writes tests for the Windows Media Player installer :)

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      • M Mike Marynowski

        Microsoft starts employees at $80,000 USD + benefits for full-time software testing positions in Redmond. I don't mean an internal "beta tester" - I mean a software engineer/developer who actually writes tests and such. My friend got a job at Microsoft right out of university as a tester (since has moved to Vancouver and still works for MS). He writes tests for the Windows Media Player installer :)

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        sharp_k
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        I think MS is a good employer. Ppl there really work hard too. But these agencies pay only $22/hr which is very unfair for engineers. We engineers make $22/hr after 4 year of college, 2 years of masters and 5 years of experience while a fresh nurse make the same amount with just 2 years of education. I dont want to dishearten anyone but at least there should be some appreciation/fairness. And it looks like all this is because of H1B's coz ppl who are abroad can literally work for pocket money (no kidding). I would have done the same if I were abroad so I dont blame them. There should be some ethics though on our side keeping american workers in mind. If you are advertising these only for them, good enough.

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        • G Gary Wheeler

          I need to rethink it. I'm doing mostly C# now, so no delete operator and no destructors.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          dherger
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          but this.Dispose() doesn't have the same ring... what about this.IsNothing ? haha

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          • S sharp_k

            I just received a call from redmond based recruiter (client microsoft). It was 'software design engineer in test 1' position, with 6 month to 1 year of experience. After asking all the question about my experience, they say the maximum they can offer is 22$/hr with no benifits. Should an engineer be paid that low? Does it look alllright? I know microsoft reputation is not great but but i think it is the agency who is making big here. What do you ppl think? Any such experience. I have been offered such salary ranges before by this company and it seems it is ok.

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            pg az
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            theDailyWTF.com is a good site of stories where things-go-wrong due to cheap developers.

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