Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity
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Christian Graus wrote:
Why am I a eugenist ? How am I a socialist ? What makes me a sociopath ?
Question is, how are you not any of these things when you regularly spout out that you think forced sterilization and abortion are good ideas and should be implemented only if people can be controlled to the point where they can't resist it? I don't have to prove anything to you, but if you feel that I am wrong about my claims about your character and you want to prove me wrong by saying I don't have proof, that isn't going to fly man. The reason why is because the proof is all over this website, and there are a lot of readers who know who you are. I have dealt with real sociopaths before and they are nasty little devils.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Question is, how are you not any of these things when you regularly spout out that you think forced sterilization and abortion are good ideas
You are an illiterate moron 1 - I've only ever talked about forced sterilization when i've made it clear I am not serious 2 - I have NEVER said that abortion is a good idea. Show me where I said that once, or admit you are a liar.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and should be implemented only if people can be controlled to the point where they can't resist it?
Another total lie.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I don't have to prove anything to you,
No, but I appear to be the main person stupid enough to still talk to you. So, either go away, or talk to me. If you want to make the claims you make, then the burden of proof is on you, unless your goal is to make yourself appear clueless.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and you want to prove me wrong by saying I don't have proof, that isn't going to fly man
Well, it appears to be flying, as you're not offering proof
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The reason why is because the proof is all over this website
OK, so how is it so hard for you to find it ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have dealt with real sociopaths before and they are nasty little devils.
So you now admit I am not one ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
modified on Monday, July 27, 2009 7:36 PM
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Many vaccines used to use a preservative called Thiomersal, a mercury compound.
They still use it here.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
the manufacturers conducted studies as to whether it was dangerous or not in the minuscule concentration that they used, found out that it wasn't told us it wasn't to cover their asses, and took it out anyway (because they knew that we knew it was harmful.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They still use it here.
Only a little bit. Look at this table[^] - it lists the vaccines commonly given to children and gives their thiomersal content. As you (or at least a hypothetical intelligent you) can see, hardly any of them do, and even they have alternatives that are mercury-free.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the manufacturers conducted studies as to whether it was dangerous or not in the minuscule concentration that they used, found out that it wasn't told us it wasn't to cover their asses, and took it out anyway (because they knew that we knew it was harmful.
Well, OK, the manufacturers funded scientific research into it. They weren't the only people to study it, though: there were, in particular, autism charities. And as for faking the results...HAHAHA!!! :laugh:
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They still use it here.
Only a little bit. Look at this table[^] - it lists the vaccines commonly given to children and gives their thiomersal content. As you (or at least a hypothetical intelligent you) can see, hardly any of them do, and even they have alternatives that are mercury-free.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the manufacturers conducted studies as to whether it was dangerous or not in the minuscule concentration that they used, found out that it wasn't told us it wasn't to cover their asses, and took it out anyway (because they knew that we knew it was harmful.
Well, OK, the manufacturers funded scientific research into it. They weren't the only people to study it, though: there were, in particular, autism charities. And as for faking the results...HAHAHA!!! :laugh:
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What makes it look impressive ( apart from being required to assume it's all 100% true ), is that you have no idea what any of the chemicals listed do, in what quantity they are in the vaccine, or what the potential side effects are. Instead, it's a list designed to look scary to people who are ignorant. Which seems appropriate here.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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What makes it look impressive ( apart from being required to assume it's all 100% true ), is that you have no idea what any of the chemicals listed do, in what quantity they are in the vaccine, or what the potential side effects are. Instead, it's a list designed to look scary to people who are ignorant. Which seems appropriate here.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
What makes it look impressive ( apart from being required to assume it's all 100% true ), is that you have no idea what any of the chemicals listed do, in what quantity they are in the vaccine, or what the potential side effects are. Instead, it's a list designed to look scary to people who are ignorant. Which seems appropriate here.
Right. I'm supposed to be totally ignorant and just take my injections. Got it. I don't want it in my body, and I don't want my immune system modified unnaturally.
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Christian Graus wrote:
What makes it look impressive ( apart from being required to assume it's all 100% true ), is that you have no idea what any of the chemicals listed do, in what quantity they are in the vaccine, or what the potential side effects are. Instead, it's a list designed to look scary to people who are ignorant. Which seems appropriate here.
Right. I'm supposed to be totally ignorant and just take my injections. Got it. I don't want it in my body, and I don't want my immune system modified unnaturally.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Right. I'm supposed to be totally ignorant and just take my injections. Got it.
You ARE totally ignorant. This list makes you more so. As I said, it doesn't tell you how much of each chemical you're getting, it certainly doesn't tell you which of these things are natural in your body, or exist in other things you have contact with every day. It's a 'scary list of long chemical names' designed to invoke fear, not knowledge.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I don't want it in my body, and I don't want my immune system modified unnaturally.
Well, if you want to die, then why not just shoot yourself ? It's clear you are determined to live in ignorance, without contributing to society in any way.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Right. I'm supposed to be totally ignorant and just take my injections. Got it.
You ARE totally ignorant. This list makes you more so. As I said, it doesn't tell you how much of each chemical you're getting, it certainly doesn't tell you which of these things are natural in your body, or exist in other things you have contact with every day. It's a 'scary list of long chemical names' designed to invoke fear, not knowledge.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I don't want it in my body, and I don't want my immune system modified unnaturally.
Well, if you want to die, then why not just shoot yourself ? It's clear you are determined to live in ignorance, without contributing to society in any way.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
You ARE totally ignorant. This list makes you more so. As I said, it doesn't tell you how much of each chemical you're getting, it certainly doesn't tell you which of these things are natural in your body, or exist in other things you have contact with every day. It's a 'scary list of long chemical names' designed to invoke fear, not knowledge.
Ok, presenting facts makes me stupid. Not wanting to have those chemicals and immune system modifying agents injected directly into my bloodstream makes me totally ignorant.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, if you want to die, then why not just shoot yourself ? It's clear you are determined to live in ignorance, without contributing to society in any way.
I don't want to die, that is why I will try to eat organic food and let my immune system develop naturally like it has for the bast millions of years.
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Christian Graus wrote:
You ARE totally ignorant. This list makes you more so. As I said, it doesn't tell you how much of each chemical you're getting, it certainly doesn't tell you which of these things are natural in your body, or exist in other things you have contact with every day. It's a 'scary list of long chemical names' designed to invoke fear, not knowledge.
Ok, presenting facts makes me stupid. Not wanting to have those chemicals and immune system modifying agents injected directly into my bloodstream makes me totally ignorant.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, if you want to die, then why not just shoot yourself ? It's clear you are determined to live in ignorance, without contributing to society in any way.
I don't want to die, that is why I will try to eat organic food and let my immune system develop naturally like it has for the bast millions of years.
A lot of them contain sorbitol, a polyol used as an artificial sweetener and as a laxative in much higher dosages. A fair few also contain sucrose, which is table sugar, and a couple have aspartame, which is an artificial sweetener found in something like Diet Coke. Aluminium hydroxide and aluminium phosphate are adjuvants, which provoke an immune response and are integral to how the vaccine actually works. Glutamates are simply amino acids. Phosphate buffered saline? Salt water with phosphate ions in it is hardly a dangerous chemical - the body uses phosphate in ATP as an energy currency. The body manufactures fats around glycerin: they're called triglycerides as a matter of fact. Potassium chloride and sodium bicarbonate are so benign it's actually quite amusing that they would list them simply to create the illusion of a lot of dangerous chemicals. Formaldehyde, I admit, is dangerous in large quantities - however: The average quantity of formaldehyde to which a young infant could be exposed at one time may be as high as 0.2 mg. This quantity of formaldehyde is considered to be safe for two reasons. First, formaldehyde is essential in human metabolism and is required for the synthesis of DNA and amino acids (the building blocks of protein). Therefore, all humans have detectable quantities of natural formaldehyde in their circulation (about 2.5 ug of formaldehyde per ml of blood). Assuming an average weight of a 2-month-old of 5 kg and an average blood volume of 85 ml per kg, the total quantity of formaldehyde found in an infant’s circulation would be about 1.1 mg — a value at least five-fold greater than that to which an infant would be exposed in vaccines. Second, quantities of formaldehyde at least 600 — fold greater than that contained in vaccines have been given safely to animals. Get it? Your body makes more formaldehyde than is in a vaccine! It's easy for someone with absolutely zero knowledge of chemistry to be intimidated by all the scary chemical names. Try harder next time. And read this[^].
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I looked. So? Actually, this bit made me laugh: While mercury is a highly toxic element second only to radioactive plutonium, when combined with other ingredients, specifically aluminum and formaldehyde, the synergistic effects increase 10,000-fold. No citations? No comparisons with arsenic, beryllium, antimony, barium, cadmium, chromium, polonium, americium, osmium, thallium, vanadium, radium, or thorium? In fact, every element is toxic. In fact, everything is toxic if you take enough of it.
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I looked. So? Actually, this bit made me laugh: While mercury is a highly toxic element second only to radioactive plutonium, when combined with other ingredients, specifically aluminum and formaldehyde, the synergistic effects increase 10,000-fold. No citations? No comparisons with arsenic, beryllium, antimony, barium, cadmium, chromium, polonium, americium, osmium, thallium, vanadium, radium, or thorium? In fact, every element is toxic. In fact, everything is toxic if you take enough of it.
No, the synergy thang is true. Ones liver can be diluted by multiple toxins, resulting in 'just one more' tipping the scale.
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