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    On XP, there are two primary varieties of this. The first is what you see, for instance, when you try to kill something via Task Manager and it still won't die, something along the lines of "the xyz program is not responding." The other version is the phone home / next of kin variety telling you that the app is dead and asking if you would you like to send a report. All of which is a prelude to a question. I have a virtual machine running under VM Ware, and a task running that periodically reboots the session. Either of these dialog boxes prevent the reboot from happening. Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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      On XP, there are two primary varieties of this. The first is what you see, for instance, when you try to kill something via Task Manager and it still won't die, something along the lines of "the xyz program is not responding." The other version is the phone home / next of kin variety telling you that the app is dead and asking if you would you like to send a report. All of which is a prelude to a question. I have a virtual machine running under VM Ware, and a task running that periodically reboots the session. Either of these dialog boxes prevent the reboot from happening. Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

      Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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      You can disable the Error Reporting dialog: Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Advanced -> Error Reporting.

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        You can disable the Error Reporting dialog: Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Advanced -> Error Reporting.

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        Christopher Duncan
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        Thanks. Which one of the two dialogs does that kill?

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          Thanks. Which one of the two dialogs does that kill?

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          The second one - "Click here to send error report to Microsoft". That will be disabled.

          It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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            Thanks. Which one of the two dialogs does that kill?

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            Jacquers
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            It kills the "Send Error Report" / "Report a problem" one.

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              On XP, there are two primary varieties of this. The first is what you see, for instance, when you try to kill something via Task Manager and it still won't die, something along the lines of "the xyz program is not responding." The other version is the phone home / next of kin variety telling you that the app is dead and asking if you would you like to send a report. All of which is a prelude to a question. I have a virtual machine running under VM Ware, and a task running that periodically reboots the session. Either of these dialog boxes prevent the reboot from happening. Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

              Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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              I don't think you can eliminate the "Application is not responding" one, but you can adjust the time that it takes to end an application. link[^]

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                On XP, there are two primary varieties of this. The first is what you see, for instance, when you try to kill something via Task Manager and it still won't die, something along the lines of "the xyz program is not responding." The other version is the phone home / next of kin variety telling you that the app is dead and asking if you would you like to send a report. All of which is a prelude to a question. I have a virtual machine running under VM Ware, and a task running that periodically reboots the session. Either of these dialog boxes prevent the reboot from happening. Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

                Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

                The Reset button will do the trick.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  I don't think you can eliminate the "Application is not responding" one, but you can adjust the time that it takes to end an application. link[^]

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  I found a solution to this one. I was using the shutdown command, and there's a -f switch that tells it to ignore the F'ing app Force shutdown. :) Thanks for the help, man!

                  Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

                    The Reset button will do the trick.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Excellent! Thanks for the help on this, John. So you'll be popping into the office overnight every 15 minutes and hitting the reset button for me, right? :-D Don't mind the sound of the shotgun pump as you come in the front door, that's just the normal noises...

                    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                      Excellent! Thanks for the help on this, John. So you'll be popping into the office overnight every 15 minutes and hitting the reset button for me, right? :-D Don't mind the sound of the shotgun pump as you come in the front door, that's just the normal noises...

                      Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                      Don't mind the sound of the shotgun pump as you come in the front door

                      I don't think he will, considering that he'll have pumped his outside, before coming in.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                        Don't mind the sound of the shotgun pump as you come in the front door

                        I don't think he will, considering that he'll have pumped his outside, before coming in.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        Excellent! Skeet shoot, with a little dodging involved. :-D

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                          Thanks. Which one of the two dialogs does that kill?

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                          kinar
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                          I'm fairly certain it doesn't actually kill the dialog but rather just disables the error reporting portion of the dialog. The dialog itself is a notification that the app has crashed. Disabling error reporting, will cause you to get a notification dialog that has no option to send the report to microsoft. On the other hand, since it is a different dialog (or at least appears to be a different dialog), it is certainly possible that this one won't prevent a restart.

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                            Excellent! Thanks for the help on this, John. So you'll be popping into the office overnight every 15 minutes and hitting the reset button for me, right? :-D Don't mind the sound of the shotgun pump as you come in the front door, that's just the normal noises...

                            Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                            There's always the fireman's axe (a tool I've come to rely on in times like these).

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              There's always the fireman's axe (a tool I've come to rely on in times like these).

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              Coulda used that the other day when working with VM Ware...

                              Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                                Excellent! Thanks for the help on this, John. So you'll be popping into the office overnight every 15 minutes and hitting the reset button for me, right? :-D Don't mind the sound of the shotgun pump as you come in the front door, that's just the normal noises...

                                Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                                Actually he probably wants you to setup a 2nd computer with a webcam. Write an application that analyzes an image from the other computer's screen to determine if one of those dialogs is open, and if so send a command to power-cycle the plug the other computer is in.

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                                  On XP, there are two primary varieties of this. The first is what you see, for instance, when you try to kill something via Task Manager and it still won't die, something along the lines of "the xyz program is not responding." The other version is the phone home / next of kin variety telling you that the app is dead and asking if you would you like to send a report. All of which is a prelude to a question. I have a virtual machine running under VM Ware, and a task running that periodically reboots the session. Either of these dialog boxes prevent the reboot from happening. Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

                                  Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                                  For XP, from the command line, tasklist.exe gives a listing of current tasks. The offending dialog box and/or application can be identified in this list. Then taskkill.exe can be used to kill the dialog box. This can be automated without too much trouble. taskkill.exe /? for options.

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                                    On XP, there are two primary varieties of this. The first is what you see, for instance, when you try to kill something via Task Manager and it still won't die, something along the lines of "the xyz program is not responding." The other version is the phone home / next of kin variety telling you that the app is dead and asking if you would you like to send a report. All of which is a prelude to a question. I have a virtual machine running under VM Ware, and a task running that periodically reboots the session. Either of these dialog boxes prevent the reboot from happening. Does anyone know of a clever registry setting or some other bit of techie prowess that tells XP to ignore these dialogs and reboot anyway - or better still, suppress the dialogs altogether?

                                    Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes In the US? Explore our Career Coaching.

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                                    What's really funny is, while I was reading this, "Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." With the process this is using. (I discovered this by telling it not to send the previous time I opened all these windows from the newsletter). Not that there's any evidence of a problem aside from the dialog - there it is, sitting over in the corner where I put it since it stubbornly stays on top of all other windows. Hi, useless dialog! How are you doing? Bah! So yeah, maybe IE is quite dead and unresponsive, but it's surprisingly responsive for a program in such a state, as evidenced by the fact that you all are able to read this. How do they determine when they need to waste my time with this drivel, anyway?

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                                      What's really funny is, while I was reading this, "Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." With the process this is using. (I discovered this by telling it not to send the previous time I opened all these windows from the newsletter). Not that there's any evidence of a problem aside from the dialog - there it is, sitting over in the corner where I put it since it stubbornly stays on top of all other windows. Hi, useless dialog! How are you doing? Bah! So yeah, maybe IE is quite dead and unresponsive, but it's surprisingly responsive for a program in such a state, as evidenced by the fact that you all are able to read this. How do they determine when they need to waste my time with this drivel, anyway?

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                                      I would call this a zombie process, if that weren't already a recognized name. How about we call it a vampire process since IE tends to suck the life out of you slowly. :)

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