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    Trevortni
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    I'd like to have an argument, please.

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      I'd like to have an argument, please.

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      Mark_Wallace
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      The five minute, or the full half hour?

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        I'd like to have an argument, please.

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        Marc Clifton
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        Trevortni wrote:

        I'd like to have an argument, please.

        All these advances in the C# language and the cool stuff in .NET (like WPF, WCF, etc) is making our lives as developers easier, faster, and simpler. In fact, pretty much, junior developers can use the .NET platform to build robust and maintainable without going through the design and testing hoops we used to all have to do, and they can crank out killer apps ahead of time and under budget. Oh, and with Entity Framework, nobody needs to worry about database design anymore. It just does it all for you--normalization, everything! Don't you agree??? Marc

        Will work for food. Interacx

        I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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          Trevortni wrote:

          I'd like to have an argument, please.

          All these advances in the C# language and the cool stuff in .NET (like WPF, WCF, etc) is making our lives as developers easier, faster, and simpler. In fact, pretty much, junior developers can use the .NET platform to build robust and maintainable without going through the design and testing hoops we used to all have to do, and they can crank out killer apps ahead of time and under budget. Oh, and with Entity Framework, nobody needs to worry about database design anymore. It just does it all for you--normalization, everything! Don't you agree??? Marc

          Will work for food. Interacx

          I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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          Douglas Troy
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          Gosh Mark ... the guy said he wanted an argument ... not a ... war. ;P


          :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
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          modified on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:02 PM

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            Trevortni wrote:

            I'd like to have an argument, please.

            All these advances in the C# language and the cool stuff in .NET (like WPF, WCF, etc) is making our lives as developers easier, faster, and simpler. In fact, pretty much, junior developers can use the .NET platform to build robust and maintainable without going through the design and testing hoops we used to all have to do, and they can crank out killer apps ahead of time and under budget. Oh, and with Entity Framework, nobody needs to worry about database design anymore. It just does it all for you--normalization, everything! Don't you agree??? Marc

            Will work for food. Interacx

            I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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            Trevortni
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            Hmmm..... I could work with this, but I think I'd have to take it down the path of the popularity of inscrutable acronyms. I realize I should know this by now, but what the *bleep* are WPF and WCF anyway? I keep hearing the acronyms tossed around, but since I've never actually used them, and have never seen sufficient reason to bother googling or wikiing these meaningless acronyms, I am completely in the dark. How can I properly hate them if there's no interface provided for implementing any negative emotions?

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              The five minute, or the full half hour?

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Trevortni
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              How about I start with the five minutes, and see how I like it?

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                How about I start with the five minutes, and see how I like it?

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                Mark_Wallace
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                You won't like it.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Trevortni wrote:

                  I'd like to have an argument, please.

                  All these advances in the C# language and the cool stuff in .NET (like WPF, WCF, etc) is making our lives as developers easier, faster, and simpler. In fact, pretty much, junior developers can use the .NET platform to build robust and maintainable without going through the design and testing hoops we used to all have to do, and they can crank out killer apps ahead of time and under budget. Oh, and with Entity Framework, nobody needs to worry about database design anymore. It just does it all for you--normalization, everything! Don't you agree??? Marc

                  Will work for food. Interacx

                  I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                  martin_hughes
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                  You do realise that the marketing folk at Microsoft will treat that as an attributable endorsement? You'll find your mug plastered all over the packaging of Microsoft products from here on in :-D

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                    You won't like it.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Trevortni
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                    Shouldn't we begin the argument, and I'll make that decision for myself?

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                      Shouldn't we begin the argument, and I'll make that decision for myself?

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      No.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        How about I start with the five minutes, and see how I like it?

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                        Wjousts
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                        That was never five minutes

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                          Trevortni wrote:

                          I'd like to have an argument, please.

                          All these advances in the C# language and the cool stuff in .NET (like WPF, WCF, etc) is making our lives as developers easier, faster, and simpler. In fact, pretty much, junior developers can use the .NET platform to build robust and maintainable without going through the design and testing hoops we used to all have to do, and they can crank out killer apps ahead of time and under budget. Oh, and with Entity Framework, nobody needs to worry about database design anymore. It just does it all for you--normalization, everything! Don't you agree??? Marc

                          Will work for food. Interacx

                          I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          ... I am going to end this argument before it gets started. (extra points to anyone on the internet long enough to know why)

                          Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                            That was never five minutes

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Yes it was.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              ... I am going to end this argument before it gets started. (extra points to anyone on the internet long enough to know why)

                              Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                              Dan Neely
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                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law[^]

                              The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                                No.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                Trevortni
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                                But I want an argument!

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                                  I'd like to have an argument, please.

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                                  Todd Smith
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                                  Try a mirror.

                                  Todd Smith

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                                    I'd like to have an argument, please.

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                                    Adam Maras
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                                    How am I supposed to give you an argument if I don't even know what the parameter is?

                                    Adam Maras | Software Developer Microsoft Certified Professional Developer

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                                      Try a mirror.

                                      Todd Smith

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                                      Trevortni
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                                      Well, the mirror is a filthy liar. I mean, seriously, I don't look like that now, do I?

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                                        Well, the mirror is a filthy liar. I mean, seriously, I don't look like that now, do I?

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                                        Pravarakhya
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                                        For argument sake, yes, you do look like that.

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                                          Trevortni wrote:

                                          I'd like to have an argument, please.

                                          All these advances in the C# language and the cool stuff in .NET (like WPF, WCF, etc) is making our lives as developers easier, faster, and simpler. In fact, pretty much, junior developers can use the .NET platform to build robust and maintainable without going through the design and testing hoops we used to all have to do, and they can crank out killer apps ahead of time and under budget. Oh, and with Entity Framework, nobody needs to worry about database design anymore. It just does it all for you--normalization, everything! Don't you agree??? Marc

                                          Will work for food. Interacx

                                          I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                                          ToddHileHoffer
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                                          You do realize that new frameworks like WPF, WCF are about MS making money and not about making anything better or easier. They get to sell training classes, books, new versions of development tools etc, etc, etc... The LINQ To SQL and Entity Models are awesome. Developers don't even need to know SQL, let alone database design. Personally I love the way that I can write the same application with one of 15 different frameworks that all accomplish the same thing.

                                          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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