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Swine flu injections contain LIVE H1N1 VIRUS

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  • L Lost User

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    I trust my immune system as it is, and I do have a pretty good immune system

    So you are saying that you are immune to the H1N1 virus. So this inconvenient virus has already visited you and your memory B Cells and memory T Cells have been primed to recognize and eventually destroy the virus should it ever re-visit you again. If this virus has not visited you, your memory B Cells and memory T Cells haven't got a clue what to do consequently by the time they might have developed their response (could take many many days)your body is in a bad way and perhaps close to death. Thus if you have never had that virus, then, it is akin to owning a gun without any bullets to fire - and that is a bloody waste of time you owning that gun, as it would be a waste of a potentially useful personage (yes I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt as to your usefulness). Immunization (by vaccination) has the same effect as having previously suffered that virus. But what you are given is a very much weaker version of the virus that permits your memory B Cells and memory T Cells to inaugurate the fight against the actual virus when that virus visits you. http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/book/welcome.htm[^] is a South Carolina University School of Medicine on-line book

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    The reasons I am not getting the H1n1 injections is partly because of the reasons stated and linked in the original message at the top. I still have a working brain and my brain tells me that something is wrong with the H1N1 hype. I'm not going to be injected with mercury, squalene, formaldehyde, and other chemicals. NOT NOW NOT EVER. H1N1 could have been made in a laboratory for all I know. We have John Holdren as Obama's science secretary or czar (or whatever they call them now) saying that he wants to reduce the world's population by around 80%. Its in his book among other horrible things. You can look it up, in his book. I'm not saying that vaccines can never be good, but as of now, I won't be taking any vaccination.

    Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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    • L Lost User

      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      I trust my immune system as it is, and I do have a pretty good immune system

      So you are saying that you are immune to the H1N1 virus. So this inconvenient virus has already visited you and your memory B Cells and memory T Cells have been primed to recognize and eventually destroy the virus should it ever re-visit you again. If this virus has not visited you, your memory B Cells and memory T Cells haven't got a clue what to do consequently by the time they might have developed their response (could take many many days)your body is in a bad way and perhaps close to death. Thus if you have never had that virus, then, it is akin to owning a gun without any bullets to fire - and that is a bloody waste of time you owning that gun, as it would be a waste of a potentially useful personage (yes I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt as to your usefulness). Immunization (by vaccination) has the same effect as having previously suffered that virus. But what you are given is a very much weaker version of the virus that permits your memory B Cells and memory T Cells to inaugurate the fight against the actual virus when that virus visits you. http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/book/welcome.htm[^] is a South Carolina University School of Medicine on-line book

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      Christian Graus
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      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

      http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/book/welcome.htm\[^\] is a South Carolina University School of Medicine on-line book

      I am sure it is full of double think and propaganda. Have you not been watching youtube ? Are you out of the loop ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        I'm trying to warn as many people as possible about the coming vaccinations being pushed by the flu hysteria fear mongering. I have presented facts, and all I want is for people to take it seriously. They can take the injections of they want, but they might not be around for me to say "I told you so". I'm not going to read your stupid nationalized socialist government health-care system propaganda. I'm way beyond being indoctrinated.

        Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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        Christian Graus
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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        I'm not going to read your stupid nationalized socialist government health-care system propaganda. I'm way beyond being indoctrinated.

        I agree. Hiding from the facts is the only way to support your paranoia.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          I'm not going to read your stupid nationalized socialist government health-care system propaganda. I'm way beyond being indoctrinated.

          I agree. Hiding from the facts is the only way to support your paranoia.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          Hiding from the facts

          I have presented nothing but facts.

          Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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            It’s not a typo, the main ingredient in the GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis vaccines contain a LIVE VIRUS, an attenuated virus meaning it’s a weakened form of the swine flu virus. Attenuated vaccines can be deadly and cause virus shedding, when a person is injected with an attenuated live virus the organism moves through the human body possibly infecting the host and then exiting through the feces, mucous membranes and saliva glands of the inoculated person. This is called ‘virus shedding’ and can last for weeks. Source[^] Imagine millions of children that will be involuntarily vaccinated this coming fall[^] that will be shedding H1N1 swine flu across the country, in the sewage drains and possibly passing through the desalination process and in our tap-water. If half of the U.S. population will be vaccinated[^] with this swine flu vaccine this coming fall and winter, imagine how virulently deadly this swine flu will be on an annual basis, this mandatory vaccination plan will surely cause the pandemic and not solve it. Some readers may be thinking that I am a conspiracy nut for bringing this up, that vaccine makers couldn’t possibly be that evil. But all the reader has to do is Google “attenuated vaccines”, it means the vaccine contains a live but weakened form of a pathogenic virus. Do you really want to risk your health and inject live swine flu into your bloodstream in hopes it will immunize? Please don’t take that chance. Both Novartis and GSK vaccines will also contain MF59[

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            Yo dude. Seek help, before you become like that Sodini guy from PA. Seriously, you've got some issues.

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            • I IdUnknown

              Yo dude. Seek help, before you become like that Sodini guy from PA. Seriously, you've got some issues.

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              Yo dude...wipe up the drool. Do you want to explain yourself or do you just want to present yourself as an idiot mind-numb punk? I have presented facts and sources, if you disagree with something that I have presented I think you should explain yourself in detail. The people that have some issues are the sleeping sheep like you.

              Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Hiding from the facts

                I have presented nothing but facts.

                Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                Whatever. I am all for you not getting swine flu shots. That's called natural selection.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  I most certainly am, it is a series of three injections by the way. I trust my immune system as it is, and I do have a pretty good immune system. I won't let my immune system be compromised by a criminal government and pharmaceutical industry. Let the nasty people above take it, they are pretty disgusting.

                  Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                  Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                  God not only are you ignorant your a stuborn one too, are you aware that some flu viruses actually have a bigger effect on those with good immune systems? part of they way the virus works is that it triggers an "overall" defense by the immune system, in short, as the immune system cannot identify the specific viral attack it switch to overkill defense that devistates the body, so a good immune system may not be the ideal against all types of Flu. Also becuase each flu virus is different (thats why one flu vaccine doesnt work against another flu - ie bird and swine) your body need all the help you can give it, not taking the vaccine becasue of the trace elements of harmfull chemicals is stupid and shows a lack of understanding of both chemistry and biology(that last comes as no supprise) - it is like saying you are not going to use a computer due to the harmfull radiation and chemicals given off by them. or drive a car etc etc oh by the way do you smoke? because if you do then you should research the list of chemicals you inhale!

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    I most certainly am, it is a series of three injections by the way. I trust my immune system as it is, and I do have a pretty good immune system. I won't let my immune system be compromised by a criminal government and pharmaceutical industry. Let the nasty people above take it, they are pretty disgusting.

                    Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                    soap brain
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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    I trust my immune system as it is, and I do have a pretty good immune system.

                    Good - you can die from cytokine storm.

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      The reasons I am not getting the H1n1 injections is partly because of the reasons stated and linked in the original message at the top. I still have a working brain and my brain tells me that something is wrong with the H1N1 hype. I'm not going to be injected with mercury, squalene, formaldehyde, and other chemicals. NOT NOW NOT EVER. H1N1 could have been made in a laboratory for all I know. We have John Holdren as Obama's science secretary or czar (or whatever they call them now) saying that he wants to reduce the world's population by around 80%. Its in his book among other horrible things. You can look it up, in his book. I'm not saying that vaccines can never be good, but as of now, I won't be taking any vaccination.

                      Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                      Lost User
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                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      I'm not saying that vaccines can never be good,

                      Well that is different from what garbage you have been spewing and is a step into the right direction. Continue making these steps and you might find reason to experience a full quality filled life.

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      he wants to reduce the world's population by around 80%

                      The old population control conspiracy. Sorry I don't prescribe to this nonsense and drivel.

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      I still have a working brain

                      You will have to point me in the direction of where you have hidden yours, as it does not appear, in your case, to be resident.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                        http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/book/welcome.htm\[^\] is a South Carolina University School of Medicine on-line book

                        I am sure it is full of double think and propaganda. Have you not been watching youtube ? Are you out of the loop ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Lost User
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                        Probably true on all 3 counts. It also uses some big long words :doh:

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                        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                          God not only are you ignorant your a stuborn one too, are you aware that some flu viruses actually have a bigger effect on those with good immune systems? part of they way the virus works is that it triggers an "overall" defense by the immune system, in short, as the immune system cannot identify the specific viral attack it switch to overkill defense that devistates the body, so a good immune system may not be the ideal against all types of Flu. Also becuase each flu virus is different (thats why one flu vaccine doesnt work against another flu - ie bird and swine) your body need all the help you can give it, not taking the vaccine becasue of the trace elements of harmfull chemicals is stupid and shows a lack of understanding of both chemistry and biology(that last comes as no supprise) - it is like saying you are not going to use a computer due to the harmfull radiation and chemicals given off by them. or drive a car etc etc oh by the way do you smoke? because if you do then you should research the list of chemicals you inhale!

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          are you aware that some flu viruses actually have a bigger effect on those with good immune systems?

                          It seems to only kill those who have weakened immune systems, as logic would suggest.

                          Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                          • L Lost User

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I'm not saying that vaccines can never be good,

                            Well that is different from what garbage you have been spewing and is a step into the right direction. Continue making these steps and you might find reason to experience a full quality filled life.

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            he wants to reduce the world's population by around 80%

                            The old population control conspiracy. Sorry I don't prescribe to this nonsense and drivel.

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I still have a working brain

                            You will have to point me in the direction of where you have hidden yours, as it does not appear, in your case, to be resident.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                            The old population control conspiracy. Sorry I don't prescribe to this nonsense and drivel.

                            Its in his own book. Its right there in front of you and you still deny it like it doesn't exist.

                            Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              Alex hogarth wrote:

                              are you aware that some flu viruses actually have a bigger effect on those with good immune systems?

                              It seems to only kill those who have weakened immune systems, as logic would suggest.

                              Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                              I didnt actually say that swine flu is one of these viruses, it would seem that its not, however this doesnot mean that certain flu viruses do cause this effect (read about the pandemic of 1918) and I assumed that werent a complete hipocrite and would apply the same "no vaccine" rule to all flu viruses. Although it would make sense that you were only against vaccinating when it is someone else that is most likely to die.

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                              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                It’s not a typo, the main ingredient in the GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis vaccines contain a LIVE VIRUS, an attenuated virus meaning it’s a weakened form of the swine flu virus. Attenuated vaccines can be deadly and cause virus shedding, when a person is injected with an attenuated live virus the organism moves through the human body possibly infecting the host and then exiting through the feces, mucous membranes and saliva glands of the inoculated person. This is called ‘virus shedding’ and can last for weeks. Source[^] Imagine millions of children that will be involuntarily vaccinated this coming fall[^] that will be shedding H1N1 swine flu across the country, in the sewage drains and possibly passing through the desalination process and in our tap-water. If half of the U.S. population will be vaccinated[^] with this swine flu vaccine this coming fall and winter, imagine how virulently deadly this swine flu will be on an annual basis, this mandatory vaccination plan will surely cause the pandemic and not solve it. Some readers may be thinking that I am a conspiracy nut for bringing this up, that vaccine makers couldn’t possibly be that evil. But all the reader has to do is Google “attenuated vaccines”, it means the vaccine contains a live but weakened form of a pathogenic virus. Do you really want to risk your health and inject live swine flu into your bloodstream in hopes it will immunize? Please don’t take that chance. Both Novartis and GSK vaccines will also contain MF59[

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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                Do you have any clue how a vaccine works?

                                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                  The old population control conspiracy. Sorry I don't prescribe to this nonsense and drivel.

                                  Its in his own book. Its right there in front of you and you still deny it like it doesn't exist.

                                  Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                                  Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                  Why not you do it all the time

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                                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                    Do you have any clue how a vaccine works?

                                    If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                    Do you have any clue how a vaccine works? FTFY

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                                    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                      Do you have any clue how a vaccine works?

                                      If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                      Do you have any clue how a vaccine works?

                                      Of course, I'm not denying that the technology exists and that it can be useful. However you need to look at these clips. Swine Flu 1976 & Propaganda (60 minutes special) 16min[^] Ron Paul Puts Swine Flu into Perspective plus 1976 Propaganda [^]

                                      Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                        Do you have any clue how a vaccine works?

                                        Of course, I'm not denying that the technology exists and that it can be useful. However you need to look at these clips. Swine Flu 1976 & Propaganda (60 minutes special) 16min[^] Ron Paul Puts Swine Flu into Perspective plus 1976 Propaganda [^]

                                        Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                        Can be useful? Do you know how many diseases you were saved from simply because of the discovery of vaccination by Dr. Louis Pasteur & Dr. Edward Jenner? You could easily not even be here.

                                        If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                                          are you aware that some flu viruses actually have a bigger effect on those with good immune systems?

                                          It seems to only kill those who have weakened immune systems, as logic would suggest.

                                          Fine words from a gentleman.[^]

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                                          Lost User
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                                          This H1N1 virus at the moment is fairly mild. But, those that have a better understanding of its potential (better understanding than you or I) have suggested that it could bite somewhat harder during the winter months and this H1N1 could be around for as many as 5 years.

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