Why there is so few female programmers?

Paul Selormey

Count me in :(( Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

peterchen

you can compensate for almost every "deficiency" with hard work - however, if a->-b->c requires no cognitive load (i.e. it's an one clock machine instruction), it's much easier to arrive at z then when a->b is a subroutine. I would like to add to the "more female" approach's description: that in parallel "a->b->v->x" and "a->y->r->v" and many others are evaluated, and recognizing "z" as solution is sometimes an additional challenge. Not that "this is how man think and that how women think" - but IMO men are more prone to launch less threads, but devote almost all processing power to the onethat looks most promising; whereas women tend to launch more threads, and treat them more fairly. lauren wrote: can i say this then ... *sniggaz* no problem with that ;) yes if a min amount of the technical insight is there (which requires some experience with and prior dedication to the a->b->c processing). A good programmer, and a good project project manager, will need to have a fair amount of both, otherwise they are just code monkeys or clueless ties. Not to forget: women tend to be better at social skills (not always concious), which can do a great deal of project managment, too ;)

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l a u r e n

i'll say simply this: when i was writing simulators for the british navy i got taken on board a submarine and showed around (we were doing submarine simulators) ... whilst being shown round i was informed by one rear admiral type guy that whilst women had been admitted into the surface navy (the look on his face told me what he thought of that) they were still not and probably never would be admitted into the sub-surface navy having seen how 100+ guys live for 10 weeks at a strectch underwater all i could think was "yah right bud and i cant think of a single woman i know who would want to serve here" i think that has a lot to do with your original point

"... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
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l a u r e n

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

"... and so i said to him ... if it don't dance (or code) and you can't eat it either f**k it or throw it away"
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Roger Wright

Simple: Color Screen + Mouse + Internet (big pipe) = Ultimate TV Remote. All male programming effort ultimately boils down to a quest to control the view. The high salaries also attract men because of the possibilities they provide for getting someone else to fetch the beer. Word of the day: Rotundacrat
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Nnamdi Onyeyiri

must....resist....urge....to... ;P

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Jim A Johnson

I've always wondered why so many programmers can't follow the rules of grammar. But that's just me.

peterchen

Sylph wrote: why are there so few male programmers? Let's see - if women do the job better, why shouldn't they? Sylph wrote: you obviously don't know many woman... hum.... I don't know many female coders, that's true - and almost all of them online. Those I know in person are "average coders" on my scale. I know the "leet coder girls" are out there - but they are rare. Sylph wrote: are ALWAYS better on the latter IMO not. They can pursue a thing they want for their entire life; but locking themselfes in and forgetting everthing except the problem, isn't very typical for women. Sylph wrote: the entire male race Um... last time I checked women and men did belong to the same race ;P

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peterchen

Because nothing seriously breaks when you don't grammar correctly. I think if simple errors in grammar would turn a sentence into gibberish, or require to restart the entire speech, geeks would be linguistic nitpicks even where it doesn't matter ;)

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Sylph

"Sylph wrote: the entire male race Um... last time I checked women and men did belong to the same race" I said male race NOT human race... there is a difference;P

peterchen

Um2 last time I checked male was a gender, not a race ;P ;P But admitted, sometimes they seem to have evolved from two entirely different streaks of algae.

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Sylph

yeah i know male is a gender.. :-O but that wasn't the point i was tryin to make.. sheesh gimme a break its 1:30am here.. and am tryin to finish a java assignment ;P so my brain is mush.

Roger Wright

Nishant S wrote: Weird eh? Heaven, I should think!:-D Word of the day: Rotundacrat
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Mike Gaskey

My long term observation is that: 1) ladies in this "business" work harder (read as less socializing) during a work day but put in less hours, reluctance to work late nights / weekends -> family responsibilities. 2) are more thorough than male counterparts -> far more complete in analysis, design, testing and documentation. 3) are more stable, less childish than male counterparts who tend to have more of an ego involvment. 4) are more demanding (but better) in managerial roles. The greater strength of the male is on the creativity side of the equation, and the greater willingness to put in loooong hours. I would suspect the reason that the male / female posting ratio here supports the idea that few cpians are female is they tend to stop by to pick up an idea then go about their business while we tend to visit and stay. Just my $ 0.02 worth - Mike

Tomaz Stih 0

...and there should be more! r u crazy? with the market like now? tomaz

Tomaz Stih 0

lauren wrote: can i say this then ... *sniggaz* ... men _tend_ to be better at actually producing the code and stuff but chikkies _tend_ to be better at organizing the whole solution? now theoretically there is no way in preventing you from saying that. but it is rather distant from the reality of IT being man industry - and very thouroughly. including organizing the solutions. tomaz

Tomaz Stih 0

yeah, well, i suppose it's time we men move to management and let some fresh blood flow into entry positions. tomaz

Sylph

tstih wrote: yeah, well, i suppose it's time we men move to management and let some fresh blood flow into entry positions. tomaz get over urself!.

Tomaz Stih 0

i can't. i am evil. tomaz

mystro_AKA_kokie

peterchen wrote: you can compensate for almost every "deficiency" with hard work What if hard work is your deficiency?:)