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  • L leckey 0

    So after an incredibly horrible weekend I was slightly looking forward to work this Monday. I left early Friday because I was not feeling well and apparently a bunch of big work news was announced and no one bothered to try to contact me over the weekend. Our current CIO, who works at my site, is no longer CIO. New CIO is here TODAY and will be basically doing the "Bob" interviews today and tomorrow as the company re-structures itself in the next 3 weeks. I'm already at the maximum dosage for my anti-depressant. Guess I'll have to focus on the switch to full-time comedy a bit faster than I expected.

    Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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    Lee Humphries
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    Your real question is what kind of "re-structuring". Here's some examples: 1. Large corporate announces massive layoffs - this is more about share value. The market loves such news, the company may make an actual nod at it, but they really aren't interested in losing all of their talent. 2. Small corporate announces layoffs - probably power struggle at the top, they might actually mean it. But it will have more to do with which CxO loses. 3. Actual restructuring - definitely a power struggle at the top. Read the above line and amplify. Here's another question, are the directors directly involved in the restructuring or is it just the senior management team? Senior management is probably just a cost cutting exercise with some office politics thrown in for good measure. Directors involvement usually means sacking nearly the entire senior management team followed by calling in the hatchet men/women. This IS an opportunity for you. Negotiate hard for really good severance, or a promotion as you can reasonably assume that the status quo is not on the table.

    I just love Koalas - they go great with Bacon.

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    • L leckey 0

      You know that phrase, "When it rains it pours?" Right now I feel like I'm in a flood so right now I go to Worst-Case-Imaginable. Hoping Mother Nature will prove me wrong.

      Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      I sincerely hope everything works for the best of you. You deserve, considering your situation, the best for sure.

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      • L leckey 0

        So after an incredibly horrible weekend I was slightly looking forward to work this Monday. I left early Friday because I was not feeling well and apparently a bunch of big work news was announced and no one bothered to try to contact me over the weekend. Our current CIO, who works at my site, is no longer CIO. New CIO is here TODAY and will be basically doing the "Bob" interviews today and tomorrow as the company re-structures itself in the next 3 weeks. I'm already at the maximum dosage for my anti-depressant. Guess I'll have to focus on the switch to full-time comedy a bit faster than I expected.

        Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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        Roger Wright
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        leckey wrote:

        I'm already at the maximum dosage for my anti-depressant

        Before you take up a new career, try sharing your meds with the new boss - preferably about 20 minutes before your interview. :-D

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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          Your real question is what kind of "re-structuring". Here's some examples: 1. Large corporate announces massive layoffs - this is more about share value. The market loves such news, the company may make an actual nod at it, but they really aren't interested in losing all of their talent. 2. Small corporate announces layoffs - probably power struggle at the top, they might actually mean it. But it will have more to do with which CxO loses. 3. Actual restructuring - definitely a power struggle at the top. Read the above line and amplify. Here's another question, are the directors directly involved in the restructuring or is it just the senior management team? Senior management is probably just a cost cutting exercise with some office politics thrown in for good measure. Directors involvement usually means sacking nearly the entire senior management team followed by calling in the hatchet men/women. This IS an opportunity for you. Negotiate hard for really good severance, or a promotion as you can reasonably assume that the status quo is not on the table.

          I just love Koalas - they go great with Bacon.

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          Lee Humphries wrote:

          Negotiate hard for really good severance

          Severance .. I've heard of this word. I've even been told it used to be real, once. But then some people believe in unicorns.

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          • L leckey 0

            So after an incredibly horrible weekend I was slightly looking forward to work this Monday. I left early Friday because I was not feeling well and apparently a bunch of big work news was announced and no one bothered to try to contact me over the weekend. Our current CIO, who works at my site, is no longer CIO. New CIO is here TODAY and will be basically doing the "Bob" interviews today and tomorrow as the company re-structures itself in the next 3 weeks. I'm already at the maximum dosage for my anti-depressant. Guess I'll have to focus on the switch to full-time comedy a bit faster than I expected.

            Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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            leckey wrote:

            Guess I'll have to focus on the switch to full-time comedy a bit faster than I expected.

            Better than not having work -- in SD or just about anywhere -- with the economy as it is. Many of us find, or, have recently found, ourselves in a similar situation. In this day and age, "Work is good!". :~

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              I will not go that far. The point was no news is to be construed as bad news before hand. Even though, if I was in place of leckey, I would have felt the same way. But sometimes good things happen out of those things we consider bad. I have seen many examples of such things.

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              kinar
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              I suppose I forgot a joke icon there. I understood what you meant and agree 100% with what you say.

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              • L leckey 0

                You know that phrase, "When it rains it pours?" Right now I feel like I'm in a flood so right now I go to Worst-Case-Imaginable. Hoping Mother Nature will prove me wrong.

                Back in the blog beatch! http://CraptasticNation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                kinar
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                If you expect the worst, your life will never disappoint. Except in those rare occasions when you couldn't imagine the worst :)

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                • M MidwestLimey

                  Lee Humphries wrote:

                  Negotiate hard for really good severance

                  Severance .. I've heard of this word. I've even been told it used to be real, once. But then some people believe in unicorns.

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                  I've been laid off from a company where they sold half of it and wound up the other half (which is where I was working). I took what they offered and then hit them up for more, including taking over their client base. It's a negotiation when you get hired, and it's a negotiation when you leave, (and all the way in-between) but people seem to forget that. So when things have come to an end just because something has been written down on a document as a statement of how things will go from here means nothing. Take a pen out and start making changes, at the very least tell them that you will be taking the document to your lawyers (or solicitors for you) before you sign anything. If they march you out the door before you've had a chance to state your case contemplate slapping them with an injunction. They probably aren't going to play fair, so why should you? Having said all of that I do have at least some principles. But I also recognise the truth of the statement "Never give a sucker an even break" and I assume that they are going to treat me like a sucker. So I'm not going to make life easy for them if they are trying to make life hard for me.

                  I just love Koalas - they go great with Bacon.

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                  • M MidwestLimey

                    Lee Humphries wrote:

                    Negotiate hard for really good severance

                    Severance .. I've heard of this word. I've even been told it used to be real, once. But then some people believe in unicorns.

                    10110011001111101010101000001000001101001010001010100000100000101000001000111100010110001011001011

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                    Kelly Herald
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                    I too have heard this word. Though I never did see it when the company I worked for closed it doors after 14 years of service. :mad:

                    Kelly Herald Software Developer

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                    • K kinar

                      If you expect the worst, your life will never disappoint. Except in those rare occasions when you couldn't imagine the worst :)

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                      BillWoodruff
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                      kinar wrote:

                      If you expect the worst, your life will never disappoint.

                      Hi Kinar, I respectfully disagree with this sweeping generalization. I think that "expecting the worst" is a good way to put yourself through needless anxiety, even depression, and to "weaken" the mental and psychic resources you need to handle the actual events as they unfold. I think that's about as non-constructive a pyschological strategy as "stiff upper lip," and "denial." So : fair for you to ask what I think is a "constructive" strategy : I would try, in the interim time between hearing about the change and learning the implications of the change for me, to use all my skills to analyze the situation, and, while allowing my feelings to "surface," and recognizing the anxiety, or fear, or whatever, I'd prepare for whatever by perhaps reviewing my copy of the contract with the company, thinking of creative strategies such as : how I might attempt to get hold of any unvested stock options, etc. And, personally, I'd take the weekend off, and get outdoors, and stay busy, and exercise, and read, see my friends, enjoy life and food, and try and make sure I walked into the unknown as fit as possible. best, Bill

                      "Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844

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