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and tragic. I guess up to a point it is dependant on the education level of the majority of the population The following statement about your geekness is true.
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and tragic. I guess up to a point it is dependant on the education level of the majority of the population The following statement about your geekness is true.
The previous statement about your geekness is false.I remember reading that cynicism, is a very important adult attribute, as it allows us to question everything we are told. Young children on the other hand don't have this. It allows them to learn from their parents, but also allows them to believe Father Christmas really exists. When they find out he does not, its probably helpful in that they start going about questioning the things they have been told about the world around them. Why don't we believe the politicians? Because we know from past experience not to, that often they are false promises. They have to earn our trust before the give them the respect due, by proving our cynicism wrong. Then there is the irony, that I read this from someone else.... But to me it made sense. As I'm cynical, I'm also right. Nice feeling:-D.
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I remember reading that cynicism, is a very important adult attribute, as it allows us to question everything we are told. Young children on the other hand don't have this. It allows them to learn from their parents, but also allows them to believe Father Christmas really exists. When they find out he does not, its probably helpful in that they start going about questioning the things they have been told about the world around them. Why don't we believe the politicians? Because we know from past experience not to, that often they are false promises. They have to earn our trust before the give them the respect due, by proving our cynicism wrong. Then there is the irony, that I read this from someone else.... But to me it made sense. As I'm cynical, I'm also right. Nice feeling:-D.
Then there is the other side of the coin where you blindly doubt everything. It makes you very susceptible to manipulation by those who are seen to be part of groups such as the counter-culture. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Then there is the other side of the coin where you blindly doubt everything. It makes you very susceptible to manipulation by those who are seen to be part of groups such as the counter-culture. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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As he stood in the dock at Nuremberg, Hitler's arch crony Hermann Goering said: "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and then denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." From http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12236358&method=full&siteid=50143[^] Anthony www.TonysOpenSource.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
There is one very important difference between the situation in Germany in the 1930's and the U.S. today. The attacks really happened, and the threat is real. I would be willing to bet if Saddam or any of his fellow terrorist sponsors were behind an attack in say, Paris or Bonn or Moscow, the EU would fall all over itself demanding US help in taking him out. My God, they'd probably want us to use nukes. Gary R. Wheeler
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There is one very important difference between the situation in Germany in the 1930's and the U.S. today. The attacks really happened, and the threat is real. I would be willing to bet if Saddam or any of his fellow terrorist sponsors were behind an attack in say, Paris or Bonn or Moscow, the EU would fall all over itself demanding US help in taking him out. My God, they'd probably want us to use nukes. Gary R. Wheeler
Gary R. Wheeler wrote: My God, they'd probably want us to use nukes. I doubt it but I do think that nukes will be used at some stage and well, when that happens, we're all well and truly up a particular creek without a means of proplusion. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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There is one very important difference between the situation in Germany in the 1930's and the U.S. today. The attacks really happened, and the threat is real. I would be willing to bet if Saddam or any of his fellow terrorist sponsors were behind an attack in say, Paris or Bonn or Moscow, the EU would fall all over itself demanding US help in taking him out. My God, they'd probably want us to use nukes. Gary R. Wheeler
Gary R. Wheeler wrote: The attacks really happened, and the threat is real. What attacks? Saddam attacked Kuwait in the 90's and rightly got his butt kicked. At this moment in time the only thing that is trying to masquerade as evidence for saddams WMD's are could's and possible's. Any country in the world could possibly create a nuclear weapon in about a year if they had fissile material Gary R. Wheeler wrote: My God, they'd probably want us to use nukes. Sorry but America is still the only country in the world to nuke a civilian population and if came to a nuke match nearly every country in Europe has there own thanx we've just not used them Anthony www.TonysOpenSource.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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There is one very important difference between the situation in Germany in the 1930's and the U.S. today. The attacks really happened, and the threat is real. I would be willing to bet if Saddam or any of his fellow terrorist sponsors were behind an attack in say, Paris or Bonn or Moscow, the EU would fall all over itself demanding US help in taking him out. My God, they'd probably want us to use nukes. Gary R. Wheeler
Gary R. Wheeler wrote: The attacks really happened, and the threat is real. Some attacks happened which had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein. It's dangerous to confuse these events. Saddam may actually be a genuine threat - I'm open to persuasion on this - but I haven't yet seen any convincing evidence, and to the best of my knowledge neither has anyone else. The US has significantly less justification for attacking Iraq now than they did the day the UN weapons inspectors left - if action was going to be taken on the current proposed grounds, it should have happened then. If it had happened then, I could have supported it. If Bush had come into office with an existing commitment to reverse Clinton's lack of action, I could possibly have supported it. For Bush to decide to have a go at Iraq (and possibly the other "Axis of Evil" countries) because another organisation entirely did something terrible is unreasonable and looks very much like a big power throwing its weight around because it thinks it can. Bad idea. Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: The attacks really happened, and the threat is real. Some attacks happened which had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein. It's dangerous to confuse these events. Saddam may actually be a genuine threat - I'm open to persuasion on this - but I haven't yet seen any convincing evidence, and to the best of my knowledge neither has anyone else. The US has significantly less justification for attacking Iraq now than they did the day the UN weapons inspectors left - if action was going to be taken on the current proposed grounds, it should have happened then. If it had happened then, I could have supported it. If Bush had come into office with an existing commitment to reverse Clinton's lack of action, I could possibly have supported it. For Bush to decide to have a go at Iraq (and possibly the other "Axis of Evil" countries) because another organisation entirely did something terrible is unreasonable and looks very much like a big power throwing its weight around because it thinks it can. Bad idea. Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.
Gavin Greig wrote: Some attacks happened which had nothing to do with Saddam Hussein There is evidence that while Saddam did not directly support the attacks of last September, he did offer indirect support by providing training bases, intelligence information and other logistical support for terrorists, including al quaida operatives. He has also gassed Kurds since the Gulf War and would have carried out more extensive genocidal operations were it not for the north and south no-fly zones (which are also a defacto partitioning of the country.) That Saddam shows not only a desire to posses weapons of mass destruction, but a prediliction to use them. Under any other circumstance, I would be willing to wait for him to make the first move, but when that first move may cost hundreds of thousands of lives, I think it unwise to wait. It's also worthwhile to note that along with Afghanistan, Iran and Lebanon, Iraq used to be a very progressive country. If Iraq can obtain some semblence of a democracy, it will create a stabilizing force in the middle east and possibly encourage the Iranian people to get rid of the ultra-conservative yahoos who are running the place.
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As he stood in the dock at Nuremberg, Hitler's arch crony Hermann Goering said: "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and then denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." From http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12236358&method=full&siteid=50143[^] Anthony www.TonysOpenSource.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
And all the CP'ians laughed when I posted my "Bush is Hitler reincarnated" message. Ha ha ha. First the Germans, now the Brits are making Hitler analogies. Well folks, I was the first! (not that I think I want the recognition!!!) Marc