Fall of the Republic
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I note you didn't really comment in any meaningful way, you just jumped to your latest youtube 'discovery'. Any system would have to use finance as an incentive, as force is not an option. On that basis, rich people will probably have more kids, but the system I envisage would allow that by enriching poor people. The right to have more than one child would not come cheap, under my idea. And, what's worse, people who work hard and make a living raising more kids to be like them, or our current system, where trailer park dwelling no hopers are paid to breed more than anyone else ?
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I say get rid of the welfare system all together. There should only be one tax, a tax on profit, and it should be the same percentage for all business owners. Government should be small and should stay the hell out of people's business.
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I say get rid of the welfare system all together. There should only be one tax, a tax on profit, and it should be the same percentage for all business owners. Government should be small and should stay the hell out of people's business.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I say get rid of the welfare system all together.
Well, I would not go that far. I do support schemes like work for the dole, and I don't support single mother pensions for those under 18, or those who have children when they plainly had no other visible means of support.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There should only be one tax, a tax on profit, and it should be the same percentage for all business owners.
I would agree that government interference often has unintended consequences, but I don't trust the market to, for example, find clean means of energy without incentives.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Government should be small and should stay the hell out of people's business.
I doubt that government could ever be small enough for people like you.
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Ron Paul is the man you want. Here is his latest speech about Oboomb'peiceofshit'fuckinghusain's healthcare takeover.[^]
I can only assume that your knowledge of Obama's health plan is based on the same sort of ignorant propaganda as your knowledge of world affairs in general
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Ok, like I said, I couldn't find a transcript, I only found a summary, and it was talking about the Illuminati controlling the world government.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I say get rid of the welfare system all together.
Well, I would not go that far. I do support schemes like work for the dole, and I don't support single mother pensions for those under 18, or those who have children when they plainly had no other visible means of support.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There should only be one tax, a tax on profit, and it should be the same percentage for all business owners.
I would agree that government interference often has unintended consequences, but I don't trust the market to, for example, find clean means of energy without incentives.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Government should be small and should stay the hell out of people's business.
I doubt that government could ever be small enough for people like you.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
but I don't trust the market to, for example, find clean means of energy without incentives.
You still believe in that ignorant man made global warming conspiracy crap?
Christian Graus wrote:
I doubt that government could ever be small enough for people like you.
It has to be damn small.
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I think it's a pile of crap. There is no way on earth that communists are infiltrating schools, hollywood, or anyone else.
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I can only assume that your knowledge of Obama's health plan is based on the same sort of ignorant propaganda as your knowledge of world affairs in general
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
My knowledge of the healthcare seizure comes from the bill itself.
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Christian Graus wrote:
but I don't trust the market to, for example, find clean means of energy without incentives.
You still believe in that ignorant man made global warming conspiracy crap?
Christian Graus wrote:
I doubt that government could ever be small enough for people like you.
It has to be damn small.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You still believe in that ignorant man made global warming conspiracy crap?
Funny enough, I believe actual scientists over youtube. I believe we're going to run out of affordable oil in my lifetime. I believe the world is getting warmer. If we're causing it or not, I think the jury is out. Either way, overpopulation in particular means we need to find less space intensive ways to generate energy and food, without an overreliance on fossil fuels. Do I believe 'The Day After Tomorrow' will happen ? No. do I think pacific islands will drown ? No. I think there's lies told on both sides. The world still needs smarter sources of energy, for a variety of reasons.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It has to be damn small.
Exactly. No-one who has made their catchcry one of 'small government', will accept any government, no matter how small.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I think it's a pile of crap. There is no way on earth that communists are infiltrating schools, hollywood, or anyone else.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I think it's a pile of crap. There is no way on earth that communists are infiltrating schools, hollywood, or anyone else.
Well, you are ignorant. Its all consolidated into the hands of the elite who just happen to greatly benefit from socialism and communism.
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My knowledge of the healthcare seizure comes from the bill itself.
You read the whole bill ? Or you read some snippets with a 'translation' provided by someone on youtube ? You often seem unable to tell the difference between these sort of things. For example, the second any one part of a youtube conspiracy video is fact, ie that someone said the words 'new world order', you believe everything else they say, is also proven.
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I was a broadcast engineer for a radio network. I was to escort Mr Buchanan to the studio and run T1, mics, sound levels... everything except call screening. Before Mr Buchanan came to the studio everyone "reporters, editors in the news room" were calling him names saying what a son of a bitch he was. Most of it was unfounded, they just didn't like him for his libertarian views. I found him a gentlemen and very tolerant while I set up the equipment. While the show was going on they filed past on the tech side of the glass and commented what a mother fucker he was, and how they hoped he died. I never forgot that. This is the main stream media. Whether he is a bigot or not I don't know, but he was a nice forgiving person for a new broadcast engineer for whom "the talent" traditionally has no patience for the least fuck up, and I will never forget that.
I suspect a lot of people with extreme views, fail to live up to them in person.
kmg365 wrote:
While the show was going on they filed past on the tech side of the glass and commented what a mother f***er he was, and how they hoped he died
And on the other hand, those people would have almost certainly never met him, and based thier feelings on what the media told them. They may have been right, he may be a racist. But, it's funny how people are so sure about people they have never met, based on a biased media.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You still believe in that ignorant man made global warming conspiracy crap?
Funny enough, I believe actual scientists over youtube. I believe we're going to run out of affordable oil in my lifetime. I believe the world is getting warmer. If we're causing it or not, I think the jury is out. Either way, overpopulation in particular means we need to find less space intensive ways to generate energy and food, without an overreliance on fossil fuels. Do I believe 'The Day After Tomorrow' will happen ? No. do I think pacific islands will drown ? No. I think there's lies told on both sides. The world still needs smarter sources of energy, for a variety of reasons.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It has to be damn small.
Exactly. No-one who has made their catchcry one of 'small government', will accept any government, no matter how small.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I believe actual scientists
Who pays the scientists? We are not a world of thinkers, we rely on the paid "experts" to do that for us.
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You read the whole bill ? Or you read some snippets with a 'translation' provided by someone on youtube ? You often seem unable to tell the difference between these sort of things. For example, the second any one part of a youtube conspiracy video is fact, ie that someone said the words 'new world order', you believe everything else they say, is also proven.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
You read the whole bill ?
I downloaded and went through it. I wouldn't give that shit to my worst enemy. Cap & Trade is even more terrifying.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I think it's a pile of crap. There is no way on earth that communists are infiltrating schools, hollywood, or anyone else.
Well, you are ignorant. Its all consolidated into the hands of the elite who just happen to greatly benefit from socialism and communism.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you are ignorant
I admit to not having the sort of time to dedicate to youtube that you do.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its all consolidated into the hands of the elite
Well, those people become the 'elite' by being successful. How is it that only people who are communists, are successful ? If that's true, wouldn't that prove communism is better ? I went to a church once that told me all rock bands were in the church of Satan. I asked how people got forced to join, and as I played guitar, at what point these people would come to my door and either ban me from playing or force me to join. They went quiet. Your logic seems to me to be the same.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
who just happen to greatly benefit from socialism and communism.
why do they ? Why does a hollywood producer or actor care or benefit from communism ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
You read the whole bill ?
I downloaded and went through it. I wouldn't give that shit to my worst enemy. Cap & Trade is even more terrifying.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Cap & Trade is even more terrifying
Probably the first sensible thing you've said today...
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you are ignorant
I admit to not having the sort of time to dedicate to youtube that you do.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its all consolidated into the hands of the elite
Well, those people become the 'elite' by being successful. How is it that only people who are communists, are successful ? If that's true, wouldn't that prove communism is better ? I went to a church once that told me all rock bands were in the church of Satan. I asked how people got forced to join, and as I played guitar, at what point these people would come to my door and either ban me from playing or force me to join. They went quiet. Your logic seems to me to be the same.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
who just happen to greatly benefit from socialism and communism.
why do they ? Why does a hollywood producer or actor care or benefit from communism ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, those people become the 'elite' by being successful.
Well, the problem is that they are driven by gains to the point where they will do anything to get more. Power corrupts.
Christian Graus wrote:
why do they ?
They get much more power. Its enslavement.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You still believe in that ignorant man made global warming conspiracy crap?
Funny enough, I believe actual scientists over youtube. I believe we're going to run out of affordable oil in my lifetime. I believe the world is getting warmer. If we're causing it or not, I think the jury is out. Either way, overpopulation in particular means we need to find less space intensive ways to generate energy and food, without an overreliance on fossil fuels. Do I believe 'The Day After Tomorrow' will happen ? No. do I think pacific islands will drown ? No. I think there's lies told on both sides. The world still needs smarter sources of energy, for a variety of reasons.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It has to be damn small.
Exactly. No-one who has made their catchcry one of 'small government', will accept any government, no matter how small.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I believe we're going to run out of affordable oil in my lifetime.
So why not run out of it quickly so the companies have incentive to find an alternative?
Christian Graus wrote:
I believe the world is getting warmer.
Has been since the last ice age... I just am not convinced that we are contributing greatly to the warming...
Christian Graus wrote:
The world still needs smarter sources of energy
Bloody oath we do!
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Christian Graus wrote:
Well, those people become the 'elite' by being successful.
Well, the problem is that they are driven by gains to the point where they will do anything to get more. Power corrupts.
Christian Graus wrote:
why do they ?
They get much more power. Its enslavement.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, the problem is that they are driven by gains to the point where they will do anything to get more. Power corrupts.
This is your mantra. Only people who have never had any sort of power would assume that anyone with any sort of success, would be corrupted by it. You're saying the problem cannot be solved, because anyone who is successful, becomes corrupted, and, therefore, a communist ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They get much more power. Its enslavement.
How do they ? Try to answer intelligently, in ways that would make sense to someone who doesn't already believe what you are saying.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Cap & Trade is even more terrifying
Probably the first sensible thing you've said today...
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
Yeah, Cap and Trade is dumb. I feel better now that I can agree with you, and not CSS :P
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I believe we're going to run out of affordable oil in my lifetime.
So why not run out of it quickly so the companies have incentive to find an alternative?
Christian Graus wrote:
I believe the world is getting warmer.
Has been since the last ice age... I just am not convinced that we are contributing greatly to the warming...
Christian Graus wrote:
The world still needs smarter sources of energy
Bloody oath we do!
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
_Damian S_ wrote:
So why not run out of it quickly so the companies have incentive to find an alternative?
Because we can't invent solutions overnight, or out of thin air. for example, what if the best possible solar panel, uses oil somehow ? What if we realise that, but have no oil left ?
_Damian S_ wrote:
Has been since the last ice age... I just am not convinced that we are contributing greatly to the warming...
Yeah, like I said, I think the jury is out on that, too. I have a good mate who works for the CSIRO ( as a scientist, not a toilet cleaner or something ) and I've spoken to him, and there's no doubt the world is warming.
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