Fall of the Republic
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Christian Graus wrote:
Well, those people become the 'elite' by being successful.
Well, the problem is that they are driven by gains to the point where they will do anything to get more. Power corrupts.
Christian Graus wrote:
why do they ?
They get much more power. Its enslavement.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, the problem is that they are driven by gains to the point where they will do anything to get more. Power corrupts.
This is your mantra. Only people who have never had any sort of power would assume that anyone with any sort of success, would be corrupted by it. You're saying the problem cannot be solved, because anyone who is successful, becomes corrupted, and, therefore, a communist ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They get much more power. Its enslavement.
How do they ? Try to answer intelligently, in ways that would make sense to someone who doesn't already believe what you are saying.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I believe we're going to run out of affordable oil in my lifetime.
So why not run out of it quickly so the companies have incentive to find an alternative?
Christian Graus wrote:
I believe the world is getting warmer.
Has been since the last ice age... I just am not convinced that we are contributing greatly to the warming...
Christian Graus wrote:
The world still needs smarter sources of energy
Bloody oath we do!
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_Damian S_ wrote:
So why not run out of it quickly so the companies have incentive to find an alternative?
Because we can't invent solutions overnight, or out of thin air. for example, what if the best possible solar panel, uses oil somehow ? What if we realise that, but have no oil left ?
_Damian S_ wrote:
Has been since the last ice age... I just am not convinced that we are contributing greatly to the warming...
Yeah, like I said, I think the jury is out on that, too. I have a good mate who works for the CSIRO ( as a scientist, not a toilet cleaner or something ) and I've spoken to him, and there's no doubt the world is warming.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I believe actual scientists
Who pays the scientists? We are not a world of thinkers, we rely on the paid "experts" to do that for us.
I mean people who work for the CSIRO here in Australia, who I know personally. People who have access to the raw data.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We are not a world of thinkers, we rely on the paid "experts" to do that for us.
It's worse than that. they think, what they say is diluted into something newsworthy, and most people read a headline and base their views on that. Or they base them on what they hear in church, or what they think is a 'socialist' viewpoint.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, the problem is that they are driven by gains to the point where they will do anything to get more. Power corrupts.
This is your mantra. Only people who have never had any sort of power would assume that anyone with any sort of success, would be corrupted by it. You're saying the problem cannot be solved, because anyone who is successful, becomes corrupted, and, therefore, a communist ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They get much more power. Its enslavement.
How do they ? Try to answer intelligently, in ways that would make sense to someone who doesn't already believe what you are saying.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Only people who have never had any sort of power would assume that anyone with any sort of success, would be corrupted by it.
I know what power feels like, and I know what it can do to people.
Christian Graus wrote:
How do they ?
It is a system of slaves and slave owners. Guess who gets to be the slave owners?
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I mean people who work for the CSIRO here in Australia, who I know personally. People who have access to the raw data.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We are not a world of thinkers, we rely on the paid "experts" to do that for us.
It's worse than that. they think, what they say is diluted into something newsworthy, and most people read a headline and base their views on that. Or they base them on what they hear in church, or what they think is a 'socialist' viewpoint.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I mean people who work for the CSIRO here in Australia, who I know personally. People who have access to the raw data.
Special interests are served. Tens of thousands of scientists are actually speaking out against the falsified data and bad science of man made global warming despite the vicious attacks against them.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Only people who have never had any sort of power would assume that anyone with any sort of success, would be corrupted by it.
I know what power feels like, and I know what it can do to people.
Christian Graus wrote:
How do they ?
It is a system of slaves and slave owners. Guess who gets to be the slave owners?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I know what power feels like, and I know what it can do to people.
You might know what it feels like to YOU.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a system of slaves and slave owners.
How is it ? This is drivelling BS. Nothing you have said means a damn thing. You have no way to defend your views, so you offer meaningless platitudes.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I mean people who work for the CSIRO here in Australia, who I know personally. People who have access to the raw data.
Special interests are served. Tens of thousands of scientists are actually speaking out against the falsified data and bad science of man made global warming despite the vicious attacks against them.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Tens of thousands of scientists are actually speaking out against the falsified data and bad science of man made global warming despite the vicious attacks against them.
You're doing what you always do. Ignoring what people say and pushing the scripts of your youtube videos. 1 - I said that I don't believe everything I read about global warming 2 - I said I know scientists with access to raw data, and the earth is most certainly getting warmer 3 - My whole point in saying I know scientists personally and believe them, is that any viewpoint has it's believers. 10,000 scientists say the data is false. How many say it is not false ? Which bits do they say are false ? your statement is sufficiently lacking in detail to be worthless.
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_Damian S_ wrote:
So why not run out of it quickly so the companies have incentive to find an alternative?
Because we can't invent solutions overnight, or out of thin air. for example, what if the best possible solar panel, uses oil somehow ? What if we realise that, but have no oil left ?
_Damian S_ wrote:
Has been since the last ice age... I just am not convinced that we are contributing greatly to the warming...
Yeah, like I said, I think the jury is out on that, too. I have a good mate who works for the CSIRO ( as a scientist, not a toilet cleaner or something ) and I've spoken to him, and there's no doubt the world is warming.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Because we can't invent solutions overnight, or out of thin air.
True, but while we have plenty of (relatively) cheap fossil fuel, there is no great incentive for the big oil companies to do anything else... Much the same as when any promising new technology was touted, it was bought and buried by the big oil companies...
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Yeah, Cap and Trade is dumb. I feel better now that I can agree with you, and not CSS :P
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Christian Graus wrote:
I feel better now that I can agree with you, and not CSS :P
He posts enough crap, eventually he has to stumble into accuracy... even if fleetingly!
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Tens of thousands of scientists are actually speaking out against the falsified data and bad science of man made global warming despite the vicious attacks against them.
You're doing what you always do. Ignoring what people say and pushing the scripts of your youtube videos. 1 - I said that I don't believe everything I read about global warming 2 - I said I know scientists with access to raw data, and the earth is most certainly getting warmer 3 - My whole point in saying I know scientists personally and believe them, is that any viewpoint has it's believers. 10,000 scientists say the data is false. How many say it is not false ? Which bits do they say are false ? your statement is sufficiently lacking in detail to be worthless.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I know what power feels like, and I know what it can do to people.
You might know what it feels like to YOU.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a system of slaves and slave owners.
How is it ? This is drivelling BS. Nothing you have said means a damn thing. You have no way to defend your views, so you offer meaningless platitudes.
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Christian Graus wrote:
How is it ?
Do you not know anything about communism? It is a centrally planned system. No property rights for regular individuals, you don't get to keep what you earn, you own nothing not even your own labor.
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Christian Graus wrote:
the phrase 'new world order' just means a new way of doing things
No shit Sherlock. Its a corporate takeover on a global scale. Its the transfer of wealth and power from the private sector, to the government sector, to an international body. A global central bank, carbon credits & taxes, the end of free speech (hate bills, cyberbullying act, the "fairness" doctrine, cyber security), imprisonment on the belief that you might commit a crime or being turned into a criminal with the stroke of a pen, population control with a new market for baby credits (for lack of a better term). Its total totalitarian enslavement. It is hell on earth. There is no denying it anymore. Everything is laid out right in front of you, the facts are there. Denying it does not change the facts. There is no excuse for being ignorant.
Come to Africa. We're just beginning to explore and experience the freedoms the US was founded upon. We have at least two hundred years before slavery returns. :)
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Christian Graus wrote:
Who is actually doing this ? I'd like to know, if what they propose is fair, I'd give them money. Less people in general is the only future for our planet.
Would you really? If there was such a thing, rich people could have more kids than anyone else. Do you think the only way or the most effect way to get people to do what they should is to hit them in the pocket book?
Rich men tend to attract more attractive women, beautiful people breed more than ugly people, etc.
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I can't watch it, I am in an airport and have no sound. I tried to find an online text version and got an outline. I don't believe in the Illuminati. I think it's a pile of crap.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I don't believe in the Illuminati.
Have you ever gotten really lit up on good acid? :-D
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, you are ignorant
I admit to not having the sort of time to dedicate to youtube that you do.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its all consolidated into the hands of the elite
Well, those people become the 'elite' by being successful. How is it that only people who are communists, are successful ? If that's true, wouldn't that prove communism is better ? I went to a church once that told me all rock bands were in the church of Satan. I asked how people got forced to join, and as I played guitar, at what point these people would come to my door and either ban me from playing or force me to join. They went quiet. Your logic seems to me to be the same.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
who just happen to greatly benefit from socialism and communism.
why do they ? Why does a hollywood producer or actor care or benefit from communism ?
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Well, right now the system works in such a way that the poor have more kids than anyone else, because they are paid to do so. I would support any system that removed that financial incentive to create more welfare slaves. I would further consider supporting any system that used other incentives to urge people to breed less, because the world needs that.
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Christian Graus wrote:
system works in such a way that the poor have more kids than anyone else
That isn't necessarily true. Your making a generalization. There are plenty of poor people in African countries that don't get paid to have lots of children, but do because of infant mortality and cultural reasons beyond even that. A friend of mine once lived in Africa as part of the Peace Corp. He'd told me a story about how they had to pick up an entire village of dead bodies because there was a famine and they starved to death. He then told me about how, at birth, they would castrate the boys to one testicle so that there would be fewer people to feed. They still had too many. If financial reasons are the sole motivator than people who have no limit can breed as much as they like. This can make class warfare take on a whole new meaning. China just caps families to two and then they pay a fine if they have more than that. The only way they're allowed to have more children is if they only have girls in the first two. Apparently this is only for the Han ethnicity of Chinese though. In the end I doubt the world is ever going to be big enough for everyone. We'll probably have some kind of war before too much longer. Oh, what fun that will be. :rolleyes: Too bad the old people who start wars aren't the ones who fight them. Can you imagine two old codgers having at each other?
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Christian Graus wrote:
system works in such a way that the poor have more kids than anyone else
That isn't necessarily true. Your making a generalization. There are plenty of poor people in African countries that don't get paid to have lots of children, but do because of infant mortality and cultural reasons beyond even that. A friend of mine once lived in Africa as part of the Peace Corp. He'd told me a story about how they had to pick up an entire village of dead bodies because there was a famine and they starved to death. He then told me about how, at birth, they would castrate the boys to one testicle so that there would be fewer people to feed. They still had too many. If financial reasons are the sole motivator than people who have no limit can breed as much as they like. This can make class warfare take on a whole new meaning. China just caps families to two and then they pay a fine if they have more than that. The only way they're allowed to have more children is if they only have girls in the first two. Apparently this is only for the Han ethnicity of Chinese though. In the end I doubt the world is ever going to be big enough for everyone. We'll probably have some kind of war before too much longer. Oh, what fun that will be. :rolleyes: Too bad the old people who start wars aren't the ones who fight them. Can you imagine two old codgers having at each other?
wolfbinary wrote:
There are plenty of poor people in African countries that don't get paid to have lots of children, but do because of infant mortality and cultural reasons beyond even that.
By 'the system', I obviously mean the system in the part of the West where I live, not Africa.
wolfbinary wrote:
at birth, they would castrate the boys to one testicle so that there would be fewer people to feed.
Wow - they think that would work ?
wolfbinary wrote:
If financial reasons are the sole motivator than people who have no limit can breed as much as they like.
That is what happens with poor people here.
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Christian Graus wrote:
How is it ?
Do you not know anything about communism? It is a centrally planned system. No property rights for regular individuals, you don't get to keep what you earn, you own nothing not even your own labor.
Well, that's a slightly skewed definition, but what the hell does that have to do with Hollywood ?
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What a bunch of sad wankers they are. I mean, look at them...
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Christian Graus wrote:
I don't believe in the Illuminati.
Have you ever gotten really lit up on good acid? :-D
LOL - no. Mushrooms are the only psychadelic drug I've ever taken
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