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    dan sh
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    Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

    It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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      Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

      It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      It'd be too expensive to reprint all the books if you were to "fix" the language. ;)

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        It'd be too expensive to reprint all the books if you were to "fix" the language. ;)

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        dan sh
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        I had thought of a name as well - "English SP1". You ruined all my plans. :(

        It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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          Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

          It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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          martin_hughes
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          Gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin... I know a song about gin, only I can't remember it unless I've had plenty of gin :)

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            Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

            It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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            Henry Minute
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            So, how would you pronounce 'Featherstonhaugh'?

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            • D dan sh

              Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

              It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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              Dan Neely
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              Languages aren't static and written forms lag the spoken version. English has the advantage(?) of being highly mutable. It can be put a bit snarkily[^] (and delectably non KSS hence the link) On a more serious note I can recommend a good if very dense book about how languages evolve: The Unfolding of Language: An Evolutionary Tour of Mankind's Greatest Invention [^]. Don't plan on reading it in bits and pieces on the throne or right before bed if you want to get anything out of it though.

              The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                So, how would you pronounce 'Featherstonhaugh'?

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                dan sh
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                Henry Minute wrote:

                Featherstonhaugh

                gh = f. Rest normal.

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                • M martin_hughes

                  Gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin... I know a song about gin, only I can't remember it unless I've had plenty of gin :)

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                  Big Daddy Farang
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                  May I suggest that you research that and get back to us? :)

                  BDF People don't mind being mean; but they never want to be ridiculous. -- Moliere

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                    Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

                    It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                    hairy_hats
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                    Probably because English is a mish-mash of languages mixed together, with only one orthography trying to represent all the different sounds (see: OUGH in cough, bough, though, through, thought). I'm all in favour of limited rationalisation of the spelling of English, but I've been involved in "spelling wars" before and it's not pleasant. :laugh:

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                    • D dan sh

                      Henry Minute wrote:

                      Featherstonhaugh

                      gh = f. Rest normal.

                      It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                      Henry Minute
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                      I refer the honourable gentleman to List_of_names_in_English_with_counterintuitive_pronunciations[^]. Unless there is an explanation there, I have no idea why, or how, it came to be spelled/pronounced that way. It is one of those that is well known to those that like these sorts of puzzles.

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                        I refer the honourable gentleman to List_of_names_in_English_with_counterintuitive_pronunciations[^]. Unless there is an explanation there, I have no idea why, or how, it came to be spelled/pronounced that way. It is one of those that is well known to those that like these sorts of puzzles.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                        dan sh
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                        Wow! I could have never imagined the word to be pronounced in that way.

                        It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                        • D dan sh

                          Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

                          It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                          Pravarakhya
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                          I think an "i" after a "g" makes it sound like "ji", except when a word starts with 'g' digit legitimate ginger (exception) agile fragile engine are some examples

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                            Languages aren't static and written forms lag the spoken version. English has the advantage(?) of being highly mutable. It can be put a bit snarkily[^] (and delectably non KSS hence the link) On a more serious note I can recommend a good if very dense book about how languages evolve: The Unfolding of Language: An Evolutionary Tour of Mankind's Greatest Invention [^]. Don't plan on reading it in bits and pieces on the throne or right before bed if you want to get anything out of it though.

                            The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                            dan sh
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                            I am not good at reading books. Still I hope one day I will read that one. Thanks for the link. :)

                            It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                              May I suggest that you research that and get back to us? :)

                              BDF People don't mind being mean; but they never want to be ridiculous. -- Moliere

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                              martin_hughes
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                              Good idea - I might also remember the Gypsy Giraffe drank gin with the Magic Mage whilst eating Sage and Onion song too!

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                                I think an "i" after a "g" makes it sound like "ji", except when a word starts with 'g' digit legitimate ginger (exception) agile fragile engine are some examples

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                                Giggle, girl...

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                                  Gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin, gin... I know a song about gin, only I can't remember it unless I've had plenty of gin :)

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                                  Would that song, by any chance be 'I’m Ready' by Muddy Waters? The lyrics include "Young girls and gin may be the cure", if that refreshes your memory. Or maybe 'Gin & Milk' by Dirty Pretty Things? Lyrics: "I’m in to myself, On uncertain terms, I put gin in my milk, To kill all the germs". Here, dip your bread thesharkguys Top 10 songs about Gin[^].

                                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                    Would that song, by any chance be 'I’m Ready' by Muddy Waters? The lyrics include "Young girls and gin may be the cure", if that refreshes your memory. Or maybe 'Gin & Milk' by Dirty Pretty Things? Lyrics: "I’m in to myself, On uncertain terms, I put gin in my milk, To kill all the germs". Here, dip your bread thesharkguys Top 10 songs about Gin[^].

                                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                    martin_hughes
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                                    Give me a chance! I've only just opened the bottle! ;)

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                                      I am not good at reading books. Still I hope one day I will read that one. Thanks for the link. :)

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      Probably best you give it a pass then. It's as grueling as an upper level textbook.

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                                        Why is "digit" spelled with a "g" and pronounced as "dijit"? I mean "g" has a different pronounciation (the one in "gun") in most of the words I know. While, "j" as pronounced in "jug" would fit better in word digit. Any English masters here who can explain?

                                        It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD

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                                        dighn
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                                        You are looking for logic in a language that has none. As someone who has had the pleasure of learning English from scratch (actually haven't we all, but I mean from an outside perspective), I can only say that it is the product of mad men and drunkards.

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                                          Give me a chance! I've only just opened the bottle! ;)

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                                          Henry Minute
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                                          That's the trouble today, no one is interested in productivity. Think of all the prospective lay-offs at Booth's, Gilbey's and Gordon's and get stuck in!

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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