Pandemic bill allows health authorities to enter homes, detain without warrant, and forcibly inject you and your children.
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A question for you, what would you wish to happen if the guy next to you had a highly contagious and fatal disease but refused any treatment and insisted on going out in public, are you happy that this "patriot" by your definition (refusing to bow to the state) infecting and probably killing large numbers of people to protect you from a percieved losss of rights? Quarentine has always been used to prevent diseases spreading - but by your argument the state could not stop these people infecting others, why should the ignorance of a few endanger the many? surely the facility to do this is valid and in the interest of the "PEOPLE" it is then important that the use of these powers is controlled rather than the provision of the power in the first place. by the way previously these powers were inacted without any legal basis (as far as I can tell - or at least a damn sight less authority) but they were still inacted. what if the majority want you to get injected - surely you belive in democracy and would therefore bow to the wishes of the many and be injected!
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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A question for you, what would you wish to happen if the guy next to you had a highly contagious and fatal disease but refused any treatment and insisted on going out in public, are you happy that this "patriot" by your definition (refusing to bow to the state) infecting and probably killing large numbers of people to protect you from a percieved losss of rights? Quarentine has always been used to prevent diseases spreading - but by your argument the state could not stop these people infecting others, why should the ignorance of a few endanger the many? surely the facility to do this is valid and in the interest of the "PEOPLE" it is then important that the use of these powers is controlled rather than the provision of the power in the first place. by the way previously these powers were inacted without any legal basis (as far as I can tell - or at least a damn sight less authority) but they were still inacted. what if the majority want you to get injected - surely you belive in democracy and would therefore bow to the wishes of the many and be injected!
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
As my Dad tells the story, he was so sick growing up that they actually quarantined the house as a kid for about a month.
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A question for you, what would you wish to happen if the guy next to you had a highly contagious and fatal disease but refused any treatment and insisted on going out in public, are you happy that this "patriot" by your definition (refusing to bow to the state) infecting and probably killing large numbers of people to protect you from a percieved losss of rights? Quarentine has always been used to prevent diseases spreading - but by your argument the state could not stop these people infecting others, why should the ignorance of a few endanger the many? surely the facility to do this is valid and in the interest of the "PEOPLE" it is then important that the use of these powers is controlled rather than the provision of the power in the first place. by the way previously these powers were inacted without any legal basis (as far as I can tell - or at least a damn sight less authority) but they were still inacted. what if the majority want you to get injected - surely you belive in democracy and would therefore bow to the wishes of the many and be injected!
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
Alex hogarth wrote:
what would you wish to happen if the guy next to you had a highly contagious and fatal disease but refused any treatment
I'd stay away from him, and wash my hands and all that commonsense stuff. I don't think he should be hauled away like a criminal. This has more to do with maintaining control over the people than it does about public health. When Bushes ratings were dropping around this time when he was elected, BAM 9/11 and his ratings went through the roof and he was able to progress many Bill of Rights shredding bills (patriot acts) and was able to start two wars that we are still fighting. Bio-threats is Obama's tool to maintain control, and it will be the excuse for all kinds of terrible things. For instance, everything thats in that Massachusetts bill I posted. I highly suggest that you go through that, or look over the summery on WorldNetDaily. This is like Nazi Germany or Stalin Russia where people were hauled away into camps and "dealt with". This is history repeating itself.
Alex hogarth wrote:
what if the majority want you to get injected - surely you belive in democracy and would therefore bow to the wishes of the many and be injected!
This is a constitutional republic, which means the minority and everyone else is protected by the constitution equally. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Also the vaccines aren't safe, that is proven.
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Alex hogarth wrote:
what would you wish to happen if the guy next to you had a highly contagious and fatal disease but refused any treatment
I'd stay away from him, and wash my hands and all that commonsense stuff. I don't think he should be hauled away like a criminal. This has more to do with maintaining control over the people than it does about public health. When Bushes ratings were dropping around this time when he was elected, BAM 9/11 and his ratings went through the roof and he was able to progress many Bill of Rights shredding bills (patriot acts) and was able to start two wars that we are still fighting. Bio-threats is Obama's tool to maintain control, and it will be the excuse for all kinds of terrible things. For instance, everything thats in that Massachusetts bill I posted. I highly suggest that you go through that, or look over the summery on WorldNetDaily. This is like Nazi Germany or Stalin Russia where people were hauled away into camps and "dealt with". This is history repeating itself.
Alex hogarth wrote:
what if the majority want you to get injected - surely you belive in democracy and would therefore bow to the wishes of the many and be injected!
This is a constitutional republic, which means the minority and everyone else is protected by the constitution equally. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Also the vaccines aren't safe, that is proven.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
stay away from him, and wash my hands and all that commonsense stuff. I don't think he should be hauled away like a criminal. This has more to do with maintaining control over the people than it does about public health. When Bushes ratings were dropping around this time when he was elected, BAM 9/11 and his ratings went through the roof and he was able to progress many Bill of Rights shredding bills (patriot acts) and was able to start two wars that we are still fighting. Bio-threats is Obama's tool to maintain control, and it will be the excuse for all kinds of terrible things. For instance, everything thats in that Massachusetts bill I posted. I highly suggest you go through that, or look over the summery on WorldNetDaily.
that may work with the current mild flu virus but what if it was a plague? no amount of washing will help save you from that, you think that a govenment shouldnt make steps to prevent mass deaths just so they dont upset a few twits like you? everything in the bill is dependant on the creation of a state of emergencies - meaning that there is a procedure, now having these procedures is not the problem just about every country has them the big issue is weather the govenment will missue them that my friend shows that you have the govenment you deserve it must misstrust you as much as you misstrust it
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is a constitutional republic, which means the minority is protected by the constitution. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Also the vaccines aren't safe, that is proven.
realy then you allready have a situation where the minority rule then so why you complain, or is it that it isnt your minority. Personnally I would want the state to protect the majority even if that meant a minority loosing out - rather than protecting the few at the expense of the many
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
stay away from him, and wash my hands and all that commonsense stuff. I don't think he should be hauled away like a criminal. This has more to do with maintaining control over the people than it does about public health. When Bushes ratings were dropping around this time when he was elected, BAM 9/11 and his ratings went through the roof and he was able to progress many Bill of Rights shredding bills (patriot acts) and was able to start two wars that we are still fighting. Bio-threats is Obama's tool to maintain control, and it will be the excuse for all kinds of terrible things. For instance, everything thats in that Massachusetts bill I posted. I highly suggest you go through that, or look over the summery on WorldNetDaily.
that may work with the current mild flu virus but what if it was a plague? no amount of washing will help save you from that, you think that a govenment shouldnt make steps to prevent mass deaths just so they dont upset a few twits like you? everything in the bill is dependant on the creation of a state of emergencies - meaning that there is a procedure, now having these procedures is not the problem just about every country has them the big issue is weather the govenment will missue them that my friend shows that you have the govenment you deserve it must misstrust you as much as you misstrust it
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is a constitutional republic, which means the minority is protected by the constitution. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Also the vaccines aren't safe, that is proven.
realy then you allready have a situation where the minority rule then so why you complain, or is it that it isnt your minority. Personnally I would want the state to protect the majority even if that meant a minority loosing out - rather than protecting the few at the expense of the many
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
Alex hogarth wrote:
that may work with the current mild flu virus but what if it was a plague?
Well first off it isn't (its fear mongering to maintain and acquire new powers), and if its a plague there is nothing the government can do but bunker down like everyone else. Surviving a plague involves getting out of town if possible, and locking your doors and surviving off of your canned food and bottled water. Its good to be prepared, but its not good to have cops (who may be infected themselves) burst in your door, haul you away into some concentrated camp full of sick people, destroying your property, and injecting you and your family with untested "vaccines". Anyone with a brain can understand that.
Alex hogarth wrote:
realy then you allready have a situation where the minority rule then so why you complain, or is it that it isnt your minority.
What I meant was that in a constitutional republic you cant vote yours or anyone else's rights away. Also in our constitution, there are suppose to be checks and balances for the government, and power comes from the bottom up, not the top down. The constitution is the supreme law of the land, which these days is constantly broken. If they can't obey the law, how can we trust them to do anything?
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Alex hogarth wrote:
what would you wish to happen if the guy next to you had a highly contagious and fatal disease but refused any treatment
I'd stay away from him, and wash my hands and all that commonsense stuff. I don't think he should be hauled away like a criminal. This has more to do with maintaining control over the people than it does about public health. When Bushes ratings were dropping around this time when he was elected, BAM 9/11 and his ratings went through the roof and he was able to progress many Bill of Rights shredding bills (patriot acts) and was able to start two wars that we are still fighting. Bio-threats is Obama's tool to maintain control, and it will be the excuse for all kinds of terrible things. For instance, everything thats in that Massachusetts bill I posted. I highly suggest that you go through that, or look over the summery on WorldNetDaily. This is like Nazi Germany or Stalin Russia where people were hauled away into camps and "dealt with". This is history repeating itself.
Alex hogarth wrote:
what if the majority want you to get injected - surely you belive in democracy and would therefore bow to the wishes of the many and be injected!
This is a constitutional republic, which means the minority and everyone else is protected by the constitution equally. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Also the vaccines aren't safe, that is proven.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This has more to do with maintaining control over the people than it does about public health.
You are so blind and stupid.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is like Nazi Germany or Stalin Russia where people were hauled away into camps and "dealt with". This is history repeating itself.
Stop jerking off, and start to look at reality instead of your sick fantasies.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is a constitutional republic, which means the minority and everyone else is protected by the constitution equally. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Gee, I wonder where you stole that quote from. Can you explain the difference ? How is it the case that you are not a democracy, and how is it the case that people are protected equally as a result ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Also the vaccines aren't safe, that is proven.
What utter drivel.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This has more to do with maintaining control over the people than it does about public health.
You are so blind and stupid.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is like Nazi Germany or Stalin Russia where people were hauled away into camps and "dealt with". This is history repeating itself.
Stop jerking off, and start to look at reality instead of your sick fantasies.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is a constitutional republic, which means the minority and everyone else is protected by the constitution equally. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Gee, I wonder where you stole that quote from. Can you explain the difference ? How is it the case that you are not a democracy, and how is it the case that people are protected equally as a result ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Also the vaccines aren't safe, that is proven.
What utter drivel.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
:laugh: You've turned into a complete troll.
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:laugh: You've turned into a complete troll.
LOL - I've reached a point where I realise you have nothing of value to say, no original thoughts, no signs of actual intelligence.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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LOL - I've reached a point where I realise you have nothing of value to say, no original thoughts, no signs of actual intelligence.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You fulfill every criteria for what psychiatrists claim classifies people like you as psychotics, ignoring hard evidence that contradicts your fairyland preconceptions while embracing the ludicrous theory that powerful men and governments do not conspire to advance their power.
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You fulfill every criteria for what psychiatrists claim classifies people like you as psychotics, ignoring hard evidence that contradicts your fairyland preconceptions while embracing the ludicrous theory that powerful men and governments do not conspire to advance their power.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You fulfill every criteria for what psychiatrists claim classifies people like you as psychotics
I've had a lot of contact with psychiatrists and been deemed to be normal and well adjusted. Have you ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
ignoring hard evidence that contradicts your fairyland preconceptions
Like you did the other day when I provided evidence that the capacity of the earth to feed people is not infinite ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You fulfill every criteria for what psychiatrists claim classifies people like you as psychotics
I've had a lot of contact with psychiatrists and been deemed to be normal and well adjusted. Have you ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
ignoring hard evidence that contradicts your fairyland preconceptions
Like you did the other day when I provided evidence that the capacity of the earth to feed people is not infinite ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I've had a lot of contact with psychiatrists and been deemed to be normal and well adjusted. Have you ?
That is not surprising considering what passes as normal these days. :~ As far as your question, I've never subjected myself to the scrutiny of a licensed manipulative drug dealer, nor will I ever.
Christian Graus wrote:
Like you did the other day when I provided evidence that the capacity of the earth to feed people is not infinite ?
What you did was perform an act of psychological self-mutilation, a theory invented out of fresh air to release dopamine in your sick brain. I have hard evidence, government documents, MSM coverage, all hardcore proof of relevant real-world information. You have a bunch of eugenics freaks exclaiming that humans are an infection on the earth and that we all must die to save the planet. Here is another example of hardcore proof. National Security Study Memorandum 200, a 1974 geopolitical strategy document prepared by Rockefeller’s intimate friend and fellow Bilderberg member Henry Kissinger, which targeted thirteen countries for massive population reduction by means of creating food scarcity, sterilization and war.[^]
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Christian Graus wrote:
I've had a lot of contact with psychiatrists and been deemed to be normal and well adjusted. Have you ?
That is not surprising considering what passes as normal these days. :~ As far as your question, I've never subjected myself to the scrutiny of a licensed manipulative drug dealer, nor will I ever.
Christian Graus wrote:
Like you did the other day when I provided evidence that the capacity of the earth to feed people is not infinite ?
What you did was perform an act of psychological self-mutilation, a theory invented out of fresh air to release dopamine in your sick brain. I have hard evidence, government documents, MSM coverage, all hardcore proof of relevant real-world information. You have a bunch of eugenics freaks exclaiming that humans are an infection on the earth and that we all must die to save the planet. Here is another example of hardcore proof. National Security Study Memorandum 200, a 1974 geopolitical strategy document prepared by Rockefeller’s intimate friend and fellow Bilderberg member Henry Kissinger, which targeted thirteen countries for massive population reduction by means of creating food scarcity, sterilization and war.[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As far as your question, I've never subjected myself to the scrutiny of a licensed manipulative drug dealer, nor will I ever.
Yeah, I had you pegged as someone who would make sure they stayed undiagnosed and untreated.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
What you did was perform an act of psychological self-mutilation, a theory invented out of fresh air to release dopamine in your sick brain.
ROTFL !!! That's priceless.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have hard evidence, government documents, MSM coverage, all hardcore proof of relevant real-world information. You have a bunch of eugenics freaks exclaiming that humans are an infection on the earth and that we all must die to save the planet.
Your capacity for self delusion is matched only by your rank stupidity. Ignoring all the other proof, it's obvious that if you had a 5 acre farm, it would generate enough food for one family, but not enough for 20. Why is the whole earth any different ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
National Security Study Memorandum 200, a 1974 geopolitical strategy document prepared by Rockefeller’s intimate friend and fellow Bilderberg member Henry Kissinger, which targeted thirteen countries for massive population reduction by means of creating food scarcity, sterilization and war.[^]
So you found this webpage. Does that prove this document is what you claim it is ? How do you know it's not fake ? How do you know who wrote it ? From the same site: "This is a resource for people concerned about the societies in which they live. We will discuss global security issues and show how one small political entity, the Vatican, in pursuing its own interests, has managed to control US population policy and to thwart freedom of the press. It has also undermined not only our own national security but that of other countries and endangered the earth's environment and its inhabitants." In fact, this site talks about the problems of over population. It seems even your conspiracy nuts can do basic math.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As far as your question, I've never subjected myself to the scrutiny of a licensed manipulative drug dealer, nor will I ever.
Yeah, I had you pegged as someone who would make sure they stayed undiagnosed and untreated.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
What you did was perform an act of psychological self-mutilation, a theory invented out of fresh air to release dopamine in your sick brain.
ROTFL !!! That's priceless.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I have hard evidence, government documents, MSM coverage, all hardcore proof of relevant real-world information. You have a bunch of eugenics freaks exclaiming that humans are an infection on the earth and that we all must die to save the planet.
Your capacity for self delusion is matched only by your rank stupidity. Ignoring all the other proof, it's obvious that if you had a 5 acre farm, it would generate enough food for one family, but not enough for 20. Why is the whole earth any different ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
National Security Study Memorandum 200, a 1974 geopolitical strategy document prepared by Rockefeller’s intimate friend and fellow Bilderberg member Henry Kissinger, which targeted thirteen countries for massive population reduction by means of creating food scarcity, sterilization and war.[^]
So you found this webpage. Does that prove this document is what you claim it is ? How do you know it's not fake ? How do you know who wrote it ? From the same site: "This is a resource for people concerned about the societies in which they live. We will discuss global security issues and show how one small political entity, the Vatican, in pursuing its own interests, has managed to control US population policy and to thwart freedom of the press. It has also undermined not only our own national security but that of other countries and endangered the earth's environment and its inhabitants." In fact, this site talks about the problems of over population. It seems even your conspiracy nuts can do basic math.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Your objective isn't to disprove my claims in a logical manner, its to denounce the messenger using convoluted and ham-fisted rhetoric that isn’t even applicable. The greatest purveyors of myths and “conspiracy theories” about political events have and always will be the authorities and governments, and moronic trolls such as you who seem to get off on it.
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Your objective isn't to disprove my claims in a logical manner, its to denounce the messenger using convoluted and ham-fisted rhetoric that isn’t even applicable. The greatest purveyors of myths and “conspiracy theories” about political events have and always will be the authorities and governments, and moronic trolls such as you who seem to get off on it.
I love how you use so bunch bandwidth to say nothing.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I love how you use so bunch bandwidth to say nothing.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I am beging to wonder if CSS would pass the Turing test. He is perfectly happy to sacrifice the majority to perserve his illusion of freedom. He keeps rabbiting on about the risks of the vaccine yet fails to understand that if everyone was forced to have the vaccine the death toll due to the vaccine would still be LOWER than that already achived by Swine flu - and as he has said the current infection is mild (although it is worth pointing out that just prior to the 1918 outbreak there was a mild outbreak too - so there is a possiblity that the worst is yet to come). also that the popluation as a whole is in favour of the vaccine - and he forgets that the consistution is a moving target any or all of it can be rewritten at anytime 9if he doubts it then why are there amendments?) and he can do nothing unless he wants to be come a terrorist in his own country - all it needs is the agreement of the majority
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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I am beging to wonder if CSS would pass the Turing test. He is perfectly happy to sacrifice the majority to perserve his illusion of freedom. He keeps rabbiting on about the risks of the vaccine yet fails to understand that if everyone was forced to have the vaccine the death toll due to the vaccine would still be LOWER than that already achived by Swine flu - and as he has said the current infection is mild (although it is worth pointing out that just prior to the 1918 outbreak there was a mild outbreak too - so there is a possiblity that the worst is yet to come). also that the popluation as a whole is in favour of the vaccine - and he forgets that the consistution is a moving target any or all of it can be rewritten at anytime 9if he doubts it then why are there amendments?) and he can do nothing unless he wants to be come a terrorist in his own country - all it needs is the agreement of the majority
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
Alex hogarth wrote:
also that the popluation as a whole is in favour of the vaccine
What have you used to draw this conclusion? I've read AP articles where polls indicated that most of the health professionals in Asian countries like China aren't concerned about the flu and don't plan on getting a shot. This despite the SARS and bird flu scare. msnbc bird flu 2005[^] I find it odd that health professionals wouldn't be the first to get the shots. It's been a few weeks since I've read the article, otherwise I would post a link. Then there's the interview I watched on ABC News from their doctor talking about Gardesil. He decided that he wasn't going to have his daughter take it now after all the reactions. A while ago I posted some links to the CDC's website about the 1976 swine flu vaccine and how they were able to duplicate the side effects in mice. I found the articles http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/emergency/swineflu.htm[^] It sounds like they learned from it, but not enough to talk about all the risks, no matter how small. GBS has been an issue with vaccines for years and it applies to all the vaccines, from what I can of the articles. Like the usual flu shots it should really go to the most susceptible and not just wide spectrum everyone with it.
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Alex hogarth wrote:
also that the popluation as a whole is in favour of the vaccine
What have you used to draw this conclusion? I've read AP articles where polls indicated that most of the health professionals in Asian countries like China aren't concerned about the flu and don't plan on getting a shot. This despite the SARS and bird flu scare. msnbc bird flu 2005[^] I find it odd that health professionals wouldn't be the first to get the shots. It's been a few weeks since I've read the article, otherwise I would post a link. Then there's the interview I watched on ABC News from their doctor talking about Gardesil. He decided that he wasn't going to have his daughter take it now after all the reactions. A while ago I posted some links to the CDC's website about the 1976 swine flu vaccine and how they were able to duplicate the side effects in mice. I found the articles http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/emergency/swineflu.htm[^] It sounds like they learned from it, but not enough to talk about all the risks, no matter how small. GBS has been an issue with vaccines for years and it applies to all the vaccines, from what I can of the articles. Like the usual flu shots it should really go to the most susceptible and not just wide spectrum everyone with it.
modified on Thursday, September 3, 2009 11:00 AM
from what I understand the reluctance is not about any side effects but a general understanding by the health profession that the vaccine is pretty useless in healthy individuals and as the heath care professionals tend to be in this group I would be surprised if they did take up the vaccine. but to reject all vaccines for all diseases like CSS does makes no sense what so ever, if the US (or any other government) makes the vaccine compulsory then based on the current evidence I might agree with you, but as yet I see no evidence of this, I do see governments taking steps to ensure that should this course of action be required then it can be taken, but no sign that it is its current intention. CSS seems to equate preparation with intent, in his mind the fact that they have plans to react should the problem become acute means that they intend to enact these plans regardless.
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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from what I understand the reluctance is not about any side effects but a general understanding by the health profession that the vaccine is pretty useless in healthy individuals and as the heath care professionals tend to be in this group I would be surprised if they did take up the vaccine. but to reject all vaccines for all diseases like CSS does makes no sense what so ever, if the US (or any other government) makes the vaccine compulsory then based on the current evidence I might agree with you, but as yet I see no evidence of this, I do see governments taking steps to ensure that should this course of action be required then it can be taken, but no sign that it is its current intention. CSS seems to equate preparation with intent, in his mind the fact that they have plans to react should the problem become acute means that they intend to enact these plans regardless.
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
I just updated my post a bit with some links. Don't get me wrong and think I'm agreeing with CSS on this. Being prepared is one thing and I do think he's overreacting, but then I think most of the whole swine flu pandemic is over blown too. I'd like to see people giving the shots forced to read the risks or make people sign something saying they've read them and acknowledge it. This way everyone understands what is being done and this risks involved. I'm not rejecting all vaccines. I'm just saying some thoughtfulness should be applied to this situation.
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I just updated my post a bit with some links. Don't get me wrong and think I'm agreeing with CSS on this. Being prepared is one thing and I do think he's overreacting, but then I think most of the whole swine flu pandemic is over blown too. I'd like to see people giving the shots forced to read the risks or make people sign something saying they've read them and acknowledge it. This way everyone understands what is being done and this risks involved. I'm not rejecting all vaccines. I'm just saying some thoughtfulness should be applied to this situation.