Home/Work Paradox
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Not homework, as in for school. I could only wish I was that young again. Things would be different, that's for sure... Anyway, I notice that I can think about problems at home easier when I'm at work and that I tend to think about problems at work more when I'm at home. Does this happen with anyone else? I'm sure it boils down to me not wanting to be where I am.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
Nope... Soon as I'm out of sight of the office and my coworkers, my brain automatically does a context switch into "home" mode, which, contrary to the Microsoft naming conventions, does not limit itself to three simultaneous thoughts :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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Not really, but sometimes I can dream about working. Like if I have a quite a lot of coding to do, I go to sleep and find myself dreaming about what I have to do the next day - now that can be annoying. But usually as soon as I walk out of work, my brain switches off and I forget about it. (Hey, I noticed from your sig that you develop code for industrial robots. What type of coding is that? Is it all PLC, or C? Just interested is all, never done any of that sort of work before (I do DCS systems) - just curious :-D ).
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I should update my sig. I don't write software for robots anymore. Now I'm writing windows applications for CNC style grinders. All the robots pretty much have their own proprietary language that is similar to a more mainstream one. I primarily worked with Fanuc. They use Karel, although the core OS is written in C. Karel is similar to Pascal with a lot of functions to access positions, I/O, and other sub-systems. ABB robots use Rapid, Kuka uses VB (I think .Net) surprisingly enough. Kukas use a version of WindowsCE so I think you might be able to use other languages with them (definitely if it's .Net). At my current company we use Epson scara robots. Their programming interface is very similar to VB6.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
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I should update my sig. I don't write software for robots anymore. Now I'm writing windows applications for CNC style grinders. All the robots pretty much have their own proprietary language that is similar to a more mainstream one. I primarily worked with Fanuc. They use Karel, although the core OS is written in C. Karel is similar to Pascal with a lot of functions to access positions, I/O, and other sub-systems. ABB robots use Rapid, Kuka uses VB (I think .Net) surprisingly enough. Kukas use a version of WindowsCE so I think you might be able to use other languages with them (definitely if it's .Net). At my current company we use Epson scara robots. Their programming interface is very similar to VB6.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
Hey cool, thanks for the info. I mainly do ABB DCS systems, so I'm well versed in 'proprietary' languages! Take it easy
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Nope... Soon as I'm out of sight of the office and my coworkers, my brain automatically does a context switch into "home" mode, which, contrary to the Microsoft naming conventions, does not limit itself to three simultaneous thoughts :)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
Ian Shlasko wrote:
three simultaneous thoughts
which would be????
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
three simultaneous thoughts
which would be????
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
Hint: the third one is "Rock-n-Roll!"
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Not homework, as in for school. I could only wish I was that young again. Things would be different, that's for sure... Anyway, I notice that I can think about problems at home easier when I'm at work and that I tend to think about problems at work more when I'm at home. Does this happen with anyone else? I'm sure it boils down to me not wanting to be where I am.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
when i'm at work i'm thinking about work problems when i'm at home, i'm still thinking about work problems which adds more problems at home...
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when i'm at work i'm thinking about work problems when i'm at home, i'm still thinking about work problems which adds more problems at home...
Same here.
John
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Hint: the third one is "Rock-n-Roll!"
That too... Come to think of it, I could use some Stones right now...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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Not really, but sometimes I can dream about working. Like if I have a quite a lot of coding to do, I go to sleep and find myself dreaming about what I have to do the next day - now that can be annoying. But usually as soon as I walk out of work, my brain switches off and I forget about it. (Hey, I noticed from your sig that you develop code for industrial robots. What type of coding is that? Is it all PLC, or C? Just interested is all, never done any of that sort of work before (I do DCS systems) - just curious :-D ).
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
(I do DCS systems)
What do you do/use? On our platforms we ran GEFanuc PLC's with Wonderware Intouch, but are in the process of migrating all our platforms in the field to Emerson DeltaV. It is in a league of its own, and no not the conference league, try the other end of the scale! oh, and sorry for stealing the thread.
Dave Who am I?: http://www.bebo.com/daveauld/ or http://www.dave-auld.net/
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That too... Come to think of it, I could use some Stones right now...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
When did you last see yours? :-D
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When did you last see yours? :-D
Back in '74, when me and the fellas-- Wait, I wasn't alive back then... Umm... Before the wife took them and-- Err, not married... Ok, I can't think of a funny enough reply.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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Not homework, as in for school. I could only wish I was that young again. Things would be different, that's for sure... Anyway, I notice that I can think about problems at home easier when I'm at work and that I tend to think about problems at work more when I'm at home. Does this happen with anyone else? I'm sure it boils down to me not wanting to be where I am.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
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Not homework, as in for school. I could only wish I was that young again. Things would be different, that's for sure... Anyway, I notice that I can think about problems at home easier when I'm at work and that I tend to think about problems at work more when I'm at home. Does this happen with anyone else? I'm sure it boils down to me not wanting to be where I am.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
When I was working, it was fortunate that I was Schizophrenic. Work me, used to do the work while Home me used to think about home. When at home Home me used to do the home work, while Work me used still to be able to think about work. Now that I am retired, I am not so sure that it is any benefit because Work me, just sits around all day drinking, farting and snacking. The lazy bum. Whilst Home me still has just as much to do as ever, without the rest afforded by being at Work me's errrr...... work.
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Not homework, as in for school. I could only wish I was that young again. Things would be different, that's for sure... Anyway, I notice that I can think about problems at home easier when I'm at work and that I tend to think about problems at work more when I'm at home. Does this happen with anyone else? I'm sure it boils down to me not wanting to be where I am.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
I've been working at home all week supporting a release we are doing in China staying up till 3 AM and then working all day. I now feel like a caged monkey. Its been fun being around the family and my wife is really good about keeping the place quite so I can think. But I've got to get out of here.
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Not homework, as in for school. I could only wish I was that young again. Things would be different, that's for sure... Anyway, I notice that I can think about problems at home easier when I'm at work and that I tend to think about problems at work more when I'm at home. Does this happen with anyone else? I'm sure it boils down to me not wanting to be where I am.
Brad Deja Moo - When you feel like you've heard the same bull before.
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
(I do DCS systems)
What do you do/use? On our platforms we ran GEFanuc PLC's with Wonderware Intouch, but are in the process of migrating all our platforms in the field to Emerson DeltaV. It is in a league of its own, and no not the conference league, try the other end of the scale! oh, and sorry for stealing the thread.
Dave Who am I?: http://www.bebo.com/daveauld/ or http://www.dave-auld.net/
(Sorry for the late reply, went to bed!) Am developing ABB DCS systems, at the moment Advant Master (AC450s, Safeguard 415). But have done 800xA, MOD300 plus a few types of PLCs. I haven't used DeltaV, but have heard it's a cinch to develop on, and very robust. So that should be a good move for you guys. Currently out in Norway, working on platforms in the Norwegian half of the North Sea, but haven't done my safety cert yet, so haven't been offshore :sigh: In fact, only been doing Oil and Gas since this year, done a hell of a lot if pharmaceuticals before. Hopefully, I'll get to go offshore with this project (if I stay)! :-D
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
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Not really, but sometimes I can dream about working. Like if I have a quite a lot of coding to do, I go to sleep and find myself dreaming about what I have to do the next day - now that can be annoying. But usually as soon as I walk out of work, my brain switches off and I forget about it. (Hey, I noticed from your sig that you develop code for industrial robots. What type of coding is that? Is it all PLC, or C? Just interested is all, never done any of that sort of work before (I do DCS systems) - just curious :-D ).
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
Worked on Siemen's SIMATIC suite of "applications"? :mad: The stuff on the PLC itself is quite good, though a bit lacking in the "make life easier for the dev" department, but the supporting applications... :shudder:
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Worked on Siemen's SIMATIC suite of "applications"? :mad: The stuff on the PLC itself is quite good, though a bit lacking in the "make life easier for the dev" department, but the supporting applications... :shudder:
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Worked on Siemen's SIMATIC suite of "applications"?
Nah. But trust me, some of the DCS stuff isn't that much better. For example some the manuals that come with the some systems I've worked on are just plain wrong. I had to do a particular task quite a few years back, followed the instructions in the manual and shut the entire site down (which was about 4 production buildings) :wtf: X| My employers weren't pissed at me luckily - we had to rip that section out of the manuals and write our own!! :-D
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(Sorry for the late reply, went to bed!) Am developing ABB DCS systems, at the moment Advant Master (AC450s, Safeguard 415). But have done 800xA, MOD300 plus a few types of PLCs. I haven't used DeltaV, but have heard it's a cinch to develop on, and very robust. So that should be a good move for you guys. Currently out in Norway, working on platforms in the Norwegian half of the North Sea, but haven't done my safety cert yet, so haven't been offshore :sigh: In fact, only been doing Oil and Gas since this year, done a hell of a lot if pharmaceuticals before. Hopefully, I'll get to go offshore with this project (if I stay)! :-D
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We are seeing benefits of DeltaV already, partly because of its hardware architecture, we have designed our system with full redundancy (except the field devices) so, IO modules, cpu, power, etc. Also the fault diagnosis and event logging, really makes it easy to understand plant shutdowns and get to root cause quickly and allow prompt recovery and implementation of software mods quickly. One of the guys we use on the project has been with Emerson for 30+ years, and his roots are pharm's, and the DV system has high usage in this areas because of its batch capabilities (we don't use batch though in O&G). I love the offshore life. been in O&G for 20 years, and spent 17years in the Forties Field. Currently an OIM on the Forties Echo platform. We work 2 offshore/3 onshore rota, and that makes a huge difference. Well, hope you get offshore soon! Going to Offshore Europe next week (handy when you live in aberdeen!) to see whats new in the control systems side of things. Did like the ABB setup they had running, it has a triple OHP display system where the displays were all on the one screen and aligned as a continuous unbroken operator display, and it was pretty cool.
Dave Who am I?: http://www.bebo.com/daveauld/ or http://www.dave-auld.net/
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We are seeing benefits of DeltaV already, partly because of its hardware architecture, we have designed our system with full redundancy (except the field devices) so, IO modules, cpu, power, etc. Also the fault diagnosis and event logging, really makes it easy to understand plant shutdowns and get to root cause quickly and allow prompt recovery and implementation of software mods quickly. One of the guys we use on the project has been with Emerson for 30+ years, and his roots are pharm's, and the DV system has high usage in this areas because of its batch capabilities (we don't use batch though in O&G). I love the offshore life. been in O&G for 20 years, and spent 17years in the Forties Field. Currently an OIM on the Forties Echo platform. We work 2 offshore/3 onshore rota, and that makes a huge difference. Well, hope you get offshore soon! Going to Offshore Europe next week (handy when you live in aberdeen!) to see whats new in the control systems side of things. Did like the ABB setup they had running, it has a triple OHP display system where the displays were all on the one screen and aligned as a continuous unbroken operator display, and it was pretty cool.
Dave Who am I?: http://www.bebo.com/daveauld/ or http://www.dave-auld.net/
daveauld wrote:
Also the fault diagnosis and event logging, really makes it easy to understand plant shutdowns and get to root cause quickly and allow prompt recovery and implementation of software mods quickly.
Isn't that a beautiful thing?! (That is the one reason I'm not a massive fan of PLCs in these sorts of environments). What can also be handy is if you have graphics of the PSD/ESD shutdown levels, so you can see on the screen exactly what has tripped and follow it all the way up.
daveauld wrote:
Did like the ABB setup they had running, it has a triple OHP display system where the displays were all on the one screen and aligned as a continuous unbroken operator display, and it was pretty cool.
Yeah those screen set-ups are very impressive. We have one of those sitting down stairs ready to be shipped somewhere (not sure to whom yet) - but if they don't start packing it I'm gonna have it for my Xbox ;) Now, I wonder if it'll fit in my suitcase.... That Oil expo sounds cool, although I live "dawn saff", so won't be making it! Plus gonna pop off to Cyprus to get a few rays next week. Anyway - I need to get on with a job I'm working on at the moment. Lots of PCS/PSD logic to implement. So far I'm up to nearly 200 pages of code. Nearly up to about 3/4 of the way though me thinks. Take it easy :-D
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