Today was pretty quiet
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Look at the economic powerhouse this country has become.
:laugh: Look at the total collapse we have been led into.
And look how, with action from the Fed, we're recovering from it.
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And look how, with action from the Fed, we're recovering from it.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
Ian Shlasko wrote:
And look how, with action from the Fed, we're recovering from it.
You are in fantasy land.
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Wow - this counts as a response in your retarded universe ? Here are the facts. 1 - you asked me to go through a huge post of yours and respond, point by point 2 - I pointed out that you need to prove your claims are true, not vice versa, but I did indeed respond to the first paragraph. It was on vacinnations, fluoride and GM. 3 - you responded, but you didn't really answer most of the things I said 4 - I responded with more facts 5 - you started to talk about the federal reserve 6 - I did respond, but said I wanted to not change the subject 7 - you said you wouldn't talk about those things any more. 8 - I reminded that it was you who brought them up and insisted I discuss them 9 - you whined like a little girl 10 - goto 8 In other words, I spent time researching a subject, at your request, shot you down in flames, and you ran scared. You've been owned.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
4 - I responded with more facts
Insignificant opinions aren't facts.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
And look how, with action from the Fed, we're recovering from it.
You are in fantasy land.
If you can't make a logical argument, just concede and be done with it.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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Christian Graus wrote:
4 - I responded with more facts
Insignificant opinions aren't facts.
I posted with solid facts. I researched them online. I actually took time to understand them, rather than just copying and pasting paragraphs. If what I said was so easy to demolish, why did you run away ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Well if you are going to whine and bitch about my small summaries that don't take long to read, here is proof for the first fact. FACT #1: The Fed is a private for profit corporation. Below are excerpts from a court case proving the Federal Reserve system's status. As you will see, the court ruled that the Federal Reserve Banks are "independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations", and there is not sufficient "federal government control over 'detailed physical performance' and 'day to day operation'" of the Federal Reserve Bank for it to be considered a federal agency: Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982) John L. Lewis, Plaintiff/Appellant, v. United States of America, Defendant/Appellee. No. 80-5905 United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit. Submitted March 2, 1982. Decided April 19, 1982. As Amended June 24, 1982. Plaintiff, who was injured by vehicle owned and operated by a federal reserve bank, brought action alleging jurisdiction under the Federal Tort Claims Act. The United States District Court for the Central District of California, David W. Williams, J., dismissed holding that federal reserve bank was not a federal agency within meaning of Act and that the court therefore lacked subject-matter jurisdiction. Appeal was taken. The Court of Appeals, Poole, Circuit Judge, held that federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations. Affirmed. 1. United States There are no sharp criteria for determining whether an entity is a federal agency within meaning of the Federal Tort Claims Act, but critical factor is existence of federal government control over "detailed physical performance" and "day to day operation" of an entity. . . . 2. United States Federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of a Federal Tort Claims Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations in light of fact that direct supervision and control of each bank is exercised by board of directors, federal reserve banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks, banks are listed neither as "wholly owned" government corporations nor as "mixed ownership" corporations; federal reserve banks receive no appropriated funds from Congress and the banks are empowered to sue and be sued in their own names. . . . 3. United States Under the Federal Tort Claims Act, federal liabi
All that proves is that the Federal Reserve is a separate company which has ties to the US government. It isn't a governmental department, so I don't know that the governmental auditors would have jurisdiction. The overall methodology is somewhat similar to a trusted system process. The Federal Reserve's presence as a company might also explain why it keeps records secret. After all, most companies do, to stop other companies from stealing ideas or reducing their profits.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Those in the know about the Fed, realize that it does keep certain records secret. The soon-to-be-former Chairman of the House Banking Committee, Henry Gonzales, has spoken on record repeatedly about how the Fed at one point says it does not have certain requested records, and then it is found through investigation that it in fact does have those records, or at least used to.
So a large company lies. It's a shame, but not entirely unexpected.
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You are an idiot.
It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD
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Christian Graus wrote:
4 - I responded with more facts
Insignificant opinions aren't facts.
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All that proves is that the Federal Reserve is a separate company which has ties to the US government. It isn't a governmental department, so I don't know that the governmental auditors would have jurisdiction. The overall methodology is somewhat similar to a trusted system process. The Federal Reserve's presence as a company might also explain why it keeps records secret. After all, most companies do, to stop other companies from stealing ideas or reducing their profits.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Those in the know about the Fed, realize that it does keep certain records secret. The soon-to-be-former Chairman of the House Banking Committee, Henry Gonzales, has spoken on record repeatedly about how the Fed at one point says it does not have certain requested records, and then it is found through investigation that it in fact does have those records, or at least used to.
So a large company lies. It's a shame, but not entirely unexpected.
You don't understand the power that it has do you?
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You don't understand the power that it has do you?
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I can see where you're going with this. Feel free to fall off your trolley, just don't expect me to join you. If you can't provide proof that the Federal Reserve is evil, then I'm done here.
I take that is a no, but I didn't expect a queeny eurochum to look up at their masters.
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I guess I scared the retard back into his cave.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.