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    ... than one in particular seen here lately... subtitled: The Invasion of the Possums. First, a nearly irrelevant picture - Mitters the Cat and a Deer[^]. This was taken a few weeks ago from my living room. The connection is the reason for the deer's visit - he was looking for cat food. Next, background - we live in SE Wyoming at an elevation of about 7000 feet, in the foothills (such as they are) of the Laramie Range, between Cheyenne and Laramie. Very rural. Our neighbors across the street moved out - he was transferred (USAF) to Japan. They abandoned one of their cats. He's pretty feral (lives in their barns), but nonetheless I was trying to get to be friends before winter, when he's sure to freeze without someplace to go. So I was leaving the garage door cracked at night with a dish of food inside, and sure enough, he was coming in and getting it. I left the light off because there are a lot coyotes and larger predators roaming the area at night and I didn't want to make a target of him. So to make a long story short, we ended up with more than a cat - a female possum, complete with a pouch full of little ones. We got her out of the garage, and she moved into the wood shed. (I stopped leaving the garage open, instead leaving the cat food outside and in the daytime only. Which is where the deer found it. I can't win.) We seem to have gotten her out of there, too, but I found something pretty cool there tonight. Opossums don't hibernate. Cold winters pretty well define the northern limit of their range, and it gets pretty damned cold here, so you gotta figure it's tough on them. Well, I'd apparently driven her out of the shed, but she's still using it as her storage area for winter. I went in to clean out the mess they'd left behind and noticed the smell of fresh grass, or plants. Looked around a bit and found what must be her stash for the winter - she'd almost completely filled an empty 60 gallon (I think) plastic garbage barrel with harvested flowers and grass! Mostly black-eyed susans and some kind of wild grain. An incredible amount, all harvested in the last few weeks. Think about it. Possums are supposed to be pretty smart (IQ between that of a dog and a pig). This girl is working months in advance to prepare for winter, selecting the most nutritous stuff, and even storing it in a barrel. (

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      ... than one in particular seen here lately... subtitled: The Invasion of the Possums. First, a nearly irrelevant picture - Mitters the Cat and a Deer[^]. This was taken a few weeks ago from my living room. The connection is the reason for the deer's visit - he was looking for cat food. Next, background - we live in SE Wyoming at an elevation of about 7000 feet, in the foothills (such as they are) of the Laramie Range, between Cheyenne and Laramie. Very rural. Our neighbors across the street moved out - he was transferred (USAF) to Japan. They abandoned one of their cats. He's pretty feral (lives in their barns), but nonetheless I was trying to get to be friends before winter, when he's sure to freeze without someplace to go. So I was leaving the garage door cracked at night with a dish of food inside, and sure enough, he was coming in and getting it. I left the light off because there are a lot coyotes and larger predators roaming the area at night and I didn't want to make a target of him. So to make a long story short, we ended up with more than a cat - a female possum, complete with a pouch full of little ones. We got her out of the garage, and she moved into the wood shed. (I stopped leaving the garage open, instead leaving the cat food outside and in the daytime only. Which is where the deer found it. I can't win.) We seem to have gotten her out of there, too, but I found something pretty cool there tonight. Opossums don't hibernate. Cold winters pretty well define the northern limit of their range, and it gets pretty damned cold here, so you gotta figure it's tough on them. Well, I'd apparently driven her out of the shed, but she's still using it as her storage area for winter. I went in to clean out the mess they'd left behind and noticed the smell of fresh grass, or plants. Looked around a bit and found what must be her stash for the winter - she'd almost completely filled an empty 60 gallon (I think) plastic garbage barrel with harvested flowers and grass! Mostly black-eyed susans and some kind of wild grain. An incredible amount, all harvested in the last few weeks. Think about it. Possums are supposed to be pretty smart (IQ between that of a dog and a pig). This girl is working months in advance to prepare for winter, selecting the most nutritous stuff, and even storing it in a barrel. (

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      LunaticFringe wrote:

      Mitters the Cat and a Deer

      Cat looks ready to go. I'll put $5 on the cat over the deer.

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        ... than one in particular seen here lately... subtitled: The Invasion of the Possums. First, a nearly irrelevant picture - Mitters the Cat and a Deer[^]. This was taken a few weeks ago from my living room. The connection is the reason for the deer's visit - he was looking for cat food. Next, background - we live in SE Wyoming at an elevation of about 7000 feet, in the foothills (such as they are) of the Laramie Range, between Cheyenne and Laramie. Very rural. Our neighbors across the street moved out - he was transferred (USAF) to Japan. They abandoned one of their cats. He's pretty feral (lives in their barns), but nonetheless I was trying to get to be friends before winter, when he's sure to freeze without someplace to go. So I was leaving the garage door cracked at night with a dish of food inside, and sure enough, he was coming in and getting it. I left the light off because there are a lot coyotes and larger predators roaming the area at night and I didn't want to make a target of him. So to make a long story short, we ended up with more than a cat - a female possum, complete with a pouch full of little ones. We got her out of the garage, and she moved into the wood shed. (I stopped leaving the garage open, instead leaving the cat food outside and in the daytime only. Which is where the deer found it. I can't win.) We seem to have gotten her out of there, too, but I found something pretty cool there tonight. Opossums don't hibernate. Cold winters pretty well define the northern limit of their range, and it gets pretty damned cold here, so you gotta figure it's tough on them. Well, I'd apparently driven her out of the shed, but she's still using it as her storage area for winter. I went in to clean out the mess they'd left behind and noticed the smell of fresh grass, or plants. Looked around a bit and found what must be her stash for the winter - she'd almost completely filled an empty 60 gallon (I think) plastic garbage barrel with harvested flowers and grass! Mostly black-eyed susans and some kind of wild grain. An incredible amount, all harvested in the last few weeks. Think about it. Possums are supposed to be pretty smart (IQ between that of a dog and a pig). This girl is working months in advance to prepare for winter, selecting the most nutritous stuff, and even storing it in a barrel. (

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        I like this thread better than the Fed debate... And being a Slashdot geek, I feel obligated to say... "I, for one, welcome our new possum overlords."

        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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          ... than one in particular seen here lately... subtitled: The Invasion of the Possums. First, a nearly irrelevant picture - Mitters the Cat and a Deer[^]. This was taken a few weeks ago from my living room. The connection is the reason for the deer's visit - he was looking for cat food. Next, background - we live in SE Wyoming at an elevation of about 7000 feet, in the foothills (such as they are) of the Laramie Range, between Cheyenne and Laramie. Very rural. Our neighbors across the street moved out - he was transferred (USAF) to Japan. They abandoned one of their cats. He's pretty feral (lives in their barns), but nonetheless I was trying to get to be friends before winter, when he's sure to freeze without someplace to go. So I was leaving the garage door cracked at night with a dish of food inside, and sure enough, he was coming in and getting it. I left the light off because there are a lot coyotes and larger predators roaming the area at night and I didn't want to make a target of him. So to make a long story short, we ended up with more than a cat - a female possum, complete with a pouch full of little ones. We got her out of the garage, and she moved into the wood shed. (I stopped leaving the garage open, instead leaving the cat food outside and in the daytime only. Which is where the deer found it. I can't win.) We seem to have gotten her out of there, too, but I found something pretty cool there tonight. Opossums don't hibernate. Cold winters pretty well define the northern limit of their range, and it gets pretty damned cold here, so you gotta figure it's tough on them. Well, I'd apparently driven her out of the shed, but she's still using it as her storage area for winter. I went in to clean out the mess they'd left behind and noticed the smell of fresh grass, or plants. Looked around a bit and found what must be her stash for the winter - she'd almost completely filled an empty 60 gallon (I think) plastic garbage barrel with harvested flowers and grass! Mostly black-eyed susans and some kind of wild grain. An incredible amount, all harvested in the last few weeks. Think about it. Possums are supposed to be pretty smart (IQ between that of a dog and a pig). This girl is working months in advance to prepare for winter, selecting the most nutritous stuff, and even storing it in a barrel. (

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          That's a pretty neat little story. Put up on a block and I'd take it for some of the stories this guy in Alaska blogs about. He posts quite a bit of pictures of the wilderness up there for all to see. It's fun to see.

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            I like this thread better than the Fed debate... And being a Slashdot geek, I feel obligated to say... "I, for one, welcome our new possum overlords."

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            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            "I, for one, welcome our new possum overlords."

            You work for a wall street hedge fund.

            Fall of the Republic[^]

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              I like this thread better than the Fed debate... And being a Slashdot geek, I feel obligated to say... "I, for one, welcome our new possum overlords."

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              I like this thread better than the Fed debate...

              I second that. I'd rather be discussing things from the discovery science channel or some other type of science related thing.

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                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                "I, for one, welcome our new possum overlords."

                You work for a wall street hedge fund.

                Fall of the Republic[^]

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                I write software for them, yes. I also write sci-fi/fantasy novels. What does any of that have to do with this thread? Get back in your cage.

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                  That's a pretty neat little story. Put up on a block and I'd take it for some of the stories this guy in Alaska blogs about. He posts quite a bit of pictures of the wilderness up there for all to see. It's fun to see.

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                  Glad you liked it. I occasionally get pretty cool pics from the living room. There's a pond (that's nearly completely hidden in this particular picture)that draws a lot of stuff in. There's even a stable breeding population of tiger salamanders in (and around) the pond, which is cool given the way amphibians are in so much trouble in most of their range.

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                    LunaticFringe wrote:

                    Mitters the Cat and a Deer

                    Cat looks ready to go. I'll put $5 on the cat over the deer.

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                    She's pretty familiar with deer. We used to live in the Sierra in California and had a lot of deer on our property. She'd play with them by hiding under the cars in the driveway, then charging out at them to try and spook them. They'd chase her back under the cars - we were always afraid some male would start beating up on one of the cars, but they never did.

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                      I like this thread better than the Fed debate... And being a Slashdot geek, I feel obligated to say... "I, for one, welcome our new possum overlords."

                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      I feel obligated to say... "I, for one, welcome our new possum overlords."

                      :laugh: :laugh: :-D

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                        I write software for them, yes. I also write sci-fi/fantasy novels. What does any of that have to do with this thread? Get back in your cage.

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        . I also write sci-fi/fantasy novels.

                        Lots of people write fiction, the important question is if you have sold any?

                        The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                          ... than one in particular seen here lately... subtitled: The Invasion of the Possums. First, a nearly irrelevant picture - Mitters the Cat and a Deer[^]. This was taken a few weeks ago from my living room. The connection is the reason for the deer's visit - he was looking for cat food. Next, background - we live in SE Wyoming at an elevation of about 7000 feet, in the foothills (such as they are) of the Laramie Range, between Cheyenne and Laramie. Very rural. Our neighbors across the street moved out - he was transferred (USAF) to Japan. They abandoned one of their cats. He's pretty feral (lives in their barns), but nonetheless I was trying to get to be friends before winter, when he's sure to freeze without someplace to go. So I was leaving the garage door cracked at night with a dish of food inside, and sure enough, he was coming in and getting it. I left the light off because there are a lot coyotes and larger predators roaming the area at night and I didn't want to make a target of him. So to make a long story short, we ended up with more than a cat - a female possum, complete with a pouch full of little ones. We got her out of the garage, and she moved into the wood shed. (I stopped leaving the garage open, instead leaving the cat food outside and in the daytime only. Which is where the deer found it. I can't win.) We seem to have gotten her out of there, too, but I found something pretty cool there tonight. Opossums don't hibernate. Cold winters pretty well define the northern limit of their range, and it gets pretty damned cold here, so you gotta figure it's tough on them. Well, I'd apparently driven her out of the shed, but she's still using it as her storage area for winter. I went in to clean out the mess they'd left behind and noticed the smell of fresh grass, or plants. Looked around a bit and found what must be her stash for the winter - she'd almost completely filled an empty 60 gallon (I think) plastic garbage barrel with harvested flowers and grass! Mostly black-eyed susans and some kind of wild grain. An incredible amount, all harvested in the last few weeks. Think about it. Possums are supposed to be pretty smart (IQ between that of a dog and a pig). This girl is working months in advance to prepare for winter, selecting the most nutritous stuff, and even storing it in a barrel. (

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                          Clearly the critter is too stupid to tell the difference between a hollow log, and a plastic barrel. :rolleyes:

                          The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            . I also write sci-fi/fantasy novels.

                            Lots of people write fiction, the important question is if you have sold any?

                            The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                            Actually yes... I think about 20-30 copies so far, but my first novel has only been out for two months with almost no marketing, and available on Amazon/B&N/etc for a bit less. See the link in my sig.

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                              Actually yes... I think about 20-30 copies so far, but my first novel has only been out for two months with almost no marketing, and available on Amazon/B&N/etc for a bit less. See the link in my sig.

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                              Self publishing doesn't count. ;P

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                                Self publishing doesn't count. ;P

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                                Why not? Traditional publishing: I find a big company that will buy my manuscript and pay me royalties... They do the work, they own my story, I just collect microscopic royalties. Self-publishing: I find a small company that will publish and print it for me. I pay them to set it up, I get a larger piece of the pie, and most importantly I retain ownership and control. The bolded part is the reason I went this route :)

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                                  Clearly the critter is too stupid to tell the difference between a hollow log, and a plastic barrel. :rolleyes:

                                  The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                                  :laugh: I doubt these have ever seen a hollow log - it's pretty much open prairie in the immediate vicinity. Whatever the container they choose to store their stuff, it's still pretty neat, the amount of industry and foresight that goes into it. [edit] Besides, I swear I saw one of them checking out barrels in a Home Depot flier... ;) [/edit] I'm still trying to decide what to do about it. I don't want to cut them off from all the food they've stored, but I really don't want to have to deal with a pissed-off possum when I go to get wood in the middle of the winter. I mean you can be a total dink about it and poison them or something, or you can try to co-exist. Question is just how far you're willing to go to co-exist.

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                                    Why not? Traditional publishing: I find a big company that will buy my manuscript and pay me royalties... They do the work, they own my story, I just collect microscopic royalties. Self-publishing: I find a small company that will publish and print it for me. I pay them to set it up, I get a larger piece of the pie, and most importantly I retain ownership and control. The bolded part is the reason I went this route :)

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                                    Is there any way that a company will publish your work without them charging you an upfront fee? I could write an excellent novel, but all I have is a penny.

                                    Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                      Is there any way that a company will publish your work without them charging you an upfront fee? I could write an excellent novel, but all I have is a penny.

                                      Fall of the Republic[^]

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                                      Yes. A traditional publisher will not charge you anything. You send them your manuscript, and they either offer you a contract or they don't. Only self-publishers charge, because you're not giving up ownership of the work (In effect, you're hiring them).

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                                        :laugh: I doubt these have ever seen a hollow log - it's pretty much open prairie in the immediate vicinity. Whatever the container they choose to store their stuff, it's still pretty neat, the amount of industry and foresight that goes into it. [edit] Besides, I swear I saw one of them checking out barrels in a Home Depot flier... ;) [/edit] I'm still trying to decide what to do about it. I don't want to cut them off from all the food they've stored, but I really don't want to have to deal with a pissed-off possum when I go to get wood in the middle of the winter. I mean you can be a total dink about it and poison them or something, or you can try to co-exist. Question is just how far you're willing to go to co-exist.

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                                        LunaticFringe wrote:

                                        Question is just how far you're willing to go to co-exist.

                                        You moved into their territory. Be a good neighbor.

                                        You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                                          LunaticFringe wrote:

                                          Question is just how far you're willing to go to co-exist.

                                          You moved into their territory. Be a good neighbor.

                                          You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                                          Oh, for sure. I'm just trying to decide on the best option. I don't want to try to relocate her because it's getting too close to winter. I really don't mind if she's using the shed for storage, I just don't want her nesting there. (Their hygiene habits are pretty bad. Imagine something with the habits of a mouse, but a couple of orders of magnitude larger. X| ) There are a bunch of old rabbit burrows under and around the shed - I think she may have moved into those. It was no problem coaxing her out of the garage and the shed - they really don't want to have anything to do with people. We just went in and started banging around, and then left the door open day and night to sort of ruin her sense of security. Within a couple of days she was gone. Although not far, apparently.

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