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Has any programming language ever affected your thought process in real life?

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  • L leonej_dt

    Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

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    Lee Humphries
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    It seems the most common answer is that it's not a particular programming language that affects your thinking processes but doing programming itself. This is true for me too. On the communication side, you'll need to remember that others can't see the succession of thoughts you went through to reach a particular conclusion. So if you jump from point A to point Z, you will leave most people behind. Fill in enough of the blank spaces so that your audience can follow your thoughts and you'll have answered this problem. There's only one caveat to that statement - some people are just stupid and will never get it, even if you include every letter in the alphabet - avoid these kinds of people where possible. Don't go to a Psych*ist - they have the same problems as you do but with respect to their field of study. And as they haven't yet found a solution for themselves I don't think your wasting money on them will make your situation any better. What I would suggest is to learn ways in which to use your approach to understand the world to make things clearer for others. It's a very useful skill that people really appreciate (and pay a lot of money for).

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    • R Ray Cassick

      Not really any specific language in general, but rather the process of programming has done this to me. Once you learn programming you never look at the world, or a problem, the same way again. I tend to just think that everyone sees things the way I do now and it can be problematic.


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      • L leonej_dt

        Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

        If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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        Fabio Franco
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        Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. Everything I look has to have some logic. If I look at my desk I start thinking: if (weightOverDesk > deskSurfaceResistance) BreakDown(); For EVERYTHING, I think differently. If I don't think programming, I think physics. It is really wierd. It's very difficult to win a discussion against me if the person don't have strong and solid arguments. Everything I talk about (science, health, day-to-day, sports, etc) I tend to put logic in it. It's really weird sometimes. Maybe we all need shrinks.

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        • L leonej_dt

          Hello, everybody: First of all, excuse me for this extremely weird thing I'm going to say. I have the following problem: My favorite programming language, C++, is affecting the way I think in real life. I tend to assume other people have the ability (not to mention the willingness) to make huge abstractions when I talk to them. I expect them to be able to distinguish between a thing being referred and the reference itself. My ability to communicate my thoughts to the people I live, work and am supposed to have fun with is severely impaired by the fact most of these thoughts are "constructed" using concepts understandable only to C++ lawyers. Has anybody experienced a similar thing (not necessarily with C++)? Do I have to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Is my problem beyond repair? Thanks in advance, Eduardo León

          If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.

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          W Balboos GHB
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          People - abstractions - dumbing down? Welcome to my world. At this point, it's solid habit. I've come to observe that there is a (small) subset of humanity that is clearly more awake than the rest. They often (but not always) go into technical fields. I've even met a clergyman who's 'aware'. Nothing to worry about - as another responder noted, you get used to it all and adapt conversations automatically. Programming has done its damage on me (Answer a Yes/No question? true, false, don't-care states). Linear Algebra, too - and it did have one nice effect: accepting different philosophical views (for example) by assuming a different basis set. If the basis set is complete, then it describes everything - just in a different way. Also, a good way to approach problems. How often I get into trouble when I try to stop someone from explaining the obvious conclusion of their remarks - or worse - when they make a few simple statements and then feel the need to spell out to me the implications. Along with this comes the awareness that there are probably others further advanced in this (or some) direction coping with my state in much the same way.

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