Open letter to the president...
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The points Christan the points. Who presents them isn't important, addressing them is.
The trouble is, you're good at 'raising' points, but not at discussing or understanding them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The trouble is, you're good at 'raising' points, but not at discussing or understanding them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The trouble is, you're good at 'raising' points, but not at discussing or understanding them.
No, the trouble is that you can't address the points that Mr. Sheen laid out for Obama. You are not very intelligent.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The trouble is, you're good at 'raising' points, but not at discussing or understanding them.
No, the trouble is that you can't address the points that Mr. Sheen laid out for Obama. You are not very intelligent.
If Mr Sheen wants to call me, I will discuss them with him. The video is stupid. I mean, some dumbass on the ground says I didn't see a second plane, there was a bomb in the building. That proves it's true ? Or it proves he heard a bang and didn't see the plane ? Your problem, all of you nutballs, is that any 'eyewitness' you can see on video, who says something you like, you assume that they are an expert and what they say is true. You accept blindly, anything that supports your weird reality. And I'll talk to Sheen but not you, not because he's on TV, but because I don't know yet if he's capable of rational discussion, but I know you are not.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU[^] Charlie Sheen of Two and a Half Men requests and interview with Obama about opening an independent investigation into 9/11, in this open letter he lays out the facts and guesses what Obama will say. Charlie Sheen – Good afternoon Mr. President, thank you so much for taking time out of your demanding schedule. President Barack Obama – My pleasure, the content of your request seemed like something I should carve out a few minutes for. CS – I should point out that I voted for you, as your promises of hope and change, transparency and accountability, as well as putting government back into the hands of the American people, struck an emotional chord in me that I hadn’t felt in quite some time, perhaps ever. PBO – And I appreciate that Charlie. Big fan of the show, by the way. CS – Sir, I can’t imagine when you might find the time to actually watch my show given the measure of what you inherited. PBO – I have it Tivo’d on Air Force One. Nice break from the traveling press corps. (He glances at his watch) not to be abrupt or to rush you, but you have 19 minutes left. CS – I’ll take that as an invitation to cut to the chase. PBO – I’m all ears. Or so I’ve been told. CS – Sir, in the very near future we will be experiencing our first 9/11 anniversary with you as Commander in Chief. PBO – Yes. A very solemn day for our Nation. A day of reflection and yet a day of historical consciousness as well. CS – Very much so sir, very much so indeed…. Now; In researching your position regarding the events of 9/11 and the subsequent investigation that followed, am I correct to understand that you fully support and endorse the findings of the commission report otherwise known as the ‘official story’? PBO – Do I have any reason not to? Given that most of us are presumably in touch with similar evidence. CS – I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack? PBO – I am aware of certain “in fighting” during the course of their very thorough and tireless investigative process.
Steve
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ROTFL - I am pretty sure the bit about the $100 note was added since I last laughed my head off at this.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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If Mr Sheen wants to call me, I will discuss them with him. The video is stupid. I mean, some dumbass on the ground says I didn't see a second plane, there was a bomb in the building. That proves it's true ? Or it proves he heard a bang and didn't see the plane ? Your problem, all of you nutballs, is that any 'eyewitness' you can see on video, who says something you like, you assume that they are an expert and what they say is true. You accept blindly, anything that supports your weird reality. And I'll talk to Sheen but not you, not because he's on TV, but because I don't know yet if he's capable of rational discussion, but I know you are not.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The video is stupid. I mean, some dumbass on the ground says I didn't see a second plane, there was a bomb in the building.
You are stupid. Nobody said that there were no planes, Sheen did not say that there weren't two planes that hits the towers. You can't address his points, all you can do is make up stupid shit and call people dirty words. Pathetic.
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This isn't about a video about 9/11. This is about the points that Mr. Sheen raised that haven't been addressed. That is the problem with all of you rage filled hate-mongers, all you do is go wild at smearing and name calling.:thumbsdown:
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Christian Graus wrote:
The video is stupid. I mean, some dumbass on the ground says I didn't see a second plane, there was a bomb in the building.
You are stupid. Nobody said that there were no planes, Sheen did not say that there weren't two planes that hits the towers. You can't address his points, all you can do is make up stupid shit and call people dirty words. Pathetic.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Nobody said that there were no planes
I watched another 9/11 doco yesterday. And in that one, someone said there was no second plane, just an explosion.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You can't address his points, all you can do is make up stupid sh*t and call people dirty words. Pathetic.
Like I said, I can ( as you can see, I've done research on this ). I simply choose not to waste my time with a moron who asks me to debate something, then runs scared the moment I do. Waste of my time. If Charlie Sheen wants to debate those points with me, I'm there.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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This isn't about a video about 9/11. This is about the points that Mr. Sheen raised that haven't been addressed. That is the problem with all of you rage filled hate-mongers, all you do is go wild at smearing and name calling.:thumbsdown:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This isn't about a video about 9/11
So the videos are all lies, but because Charlie Sheen, who makes you laugh on TV, has a list of the same points, that just cannot be ignored ? If you had any integrity at all, we may bother to address your posts directly. As it stands, we know that doing so is a waste of our time and effort.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This isn't about a video about 9/11
So the videos are all lies, but because Charlie Sheen, who makes you laugh on TV, has a list of the same points, that just cannot be ignored ? If you had any integrity at all, we may bother to address your posts directly. As it stands, we know that doing so is a waste of our time and effort.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
has a list of the same points
He never mentioned the BS about there being no planes.
Christian Graus wrote:
As it stands, we know that doing so is a waste of our time and effort.
Damn right, because you use deception and trickery to deny facts and spread disinfo.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Nobody said that there were no planes
I watched another 9/11 doco yesterday. And in that one, someone said there was no second plane, just an explosion.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You can't address his points, all you can do is make up stupid sh*t and call people dirty words. Pathetic.
Like I said, I can ( as you can see, I've done research on this ). I simply choose not to waste my time with a moron who asks me to debate something, then runs scared the moment I do. Waste of my time. If Charlie Sheen wants to debate those points with me, I'm there.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I watched another 9/11 doco yesterday
Watch Terorstorm[^] It was just uploaded recently in high quality. Its likely that you try to find UFO crap when you search for videos about 9/11.
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Christian Graus wrote:
has a list of the same points
He never mentioned the BS about there being no planes.
Christian Graus wrote:
As it stands, we know that doing so is a waste of our time and effort.
Damn right, because you use deception and trickery to deny facts and spread disinfo.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He never mentioned the BS about there being no planes
Right. But the same broad list of points factor into every conspiracy nut story on this. I watched a couple of videos and quoted the wrong one. Get over it. There's 9/11 videos on youtube that show people saying there was no plane at the Pentagon and no second plane at the WTC.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Damn right, because you use deception and trickery to deny facts and spread disinfo.
I use plain English to prove you wrong. And you can't handle it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He never mentioned the BS about there being no planes
Right. But the same broad list of points factor into every conspiracy nut story on this. I watched a couple of videos and quoted the wrong one. Get over it. There's 9/11 videos on youtube that show people saying there was no plane at the Pentagon and no second plane at the WTC.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Damn right, because you use deception and trickery to deny facts and spread disinfo.
I use plain English to prove you wrong. And you can't handle it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
But the same broad list of points factor into every conspiracy nut story on this.
Christian Graus wrote:
I use plain English to prove you wrong.
No, you try to inject fake issues to discredit real ones. That is the convoluted idiom that you maliciously spew out.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I watched another 9/11 doco yesterday
Watch Terorstorm[^] It was just uploaded recently in high quality. Its likely that you try to find UFO crap when you search for videos about 9/11.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its likely that you try to find UFO crap when you search for videos about 9/11.
I'm not sure what this means, but I certainly watched videos on 9/11. I've seen quite a few. Why would I watch another ? I've done the research, if you were not useless to talk to, and prone to running away, I'd happily discuss them with you.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
But the same broad list of points factor into every conspiracy nut story on this.
Christian Graus wrote:
I use plain English to prove you wrong.
No, you try to inject fake issues to discredit real ones. That is the convoluted idiom that you maliciously spew out.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, you try to inject fake issues to discredit real ones. That is the convoluted idiom that you maliciously spew out.
ROTFL - what a pointless discussion. You decided the issues, I addressed them, you ran. Were the issues you chose fake ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, you try to inject fake issues to discredit real ones. That is the convoluted idiom that you maliciously spew out.
ROTFL - what a pointless discussion. You decided the issues, I addressed them, you ran. Were the issues you chose fake ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I addressed them, you ran. Were the issues you chose fake ?
Transposing reality in an attempt to subsidize your ignorance is ineffective.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I addressed them, you ran. Were the issues you chose fake ?
Transposing reality in an attempt to subsidize your ignorance is ineffective.
Waffling on seems to be effective too, at least in your mind.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The top comment on youtube right now ( 3 minutes old ) was this: Here's what you want to know: Those of us with common sense don't need one. I have to swallow more garbage to believe this was a conspiracy, than what I have to to believe what I saw with my own eyes. Starting with this, how can Bush be such a dumbass as people say, then plan AND pull this off. How many people would have to keep this a secret when I can't get two people to keep a surprise bday party a secret! I saw the planes, the bldngs were designed to withstand a DC3, why would they need exp? I couldn't have said it better myself. I'd try to discuss this with you, because this is something I've looked into enough to be familiar with the theories, and why they are crap, but you've already shown you're incapable of any sort of discussion, so I'm not going to bother. I'll just laugh at you instead. Dumbass. I am half way through, where does this 'open letter' appear ? In any case, why are people so stupid that they think Charlie Sheen, because he is on TV, somehow has ANY right to claim to know anything about this ? He's probably holed up in a Hollywood hotel, watching the same youtube crap that you are. Ooops - Charlie Sheen just appeared. What a sad little wanker he is. He tries to look so serious, but, again, why on earth are we supposed to think that his opinion is worth any more than yours or mine ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Chris You forget that Charlie boy is the brother of one of the US most succesfull presidents - Jeb Barlet (so I guess he and alot of others think) so is "in the know". The fact that his show is failing in the ratings has nothing to do with his outburst, it is pure patiotism
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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Chris You forget that Charlie boy is the brother of one of the US most succesfull presidents - Jeb Barlet (so I guess he and alot of others think) so is "in the know". The fact that his show is failing in the ratings has nothing to do with his outburst, it is pure patiotism
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
Alex hogarth wrote:
The fact that his show is failing in the ratings has nothing to do with his outburst, it is pure patiotism
ROTFL !!!
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Alex hogarth wrote:
The fact that his show is failing in the ratings has nothing to do with his outburst, it is pure patiotism
ROTFL !!!
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Pretend you are writing a letter to charlie in reply to his points, knowing that he isn't going to reply back, address his points in a manner that does not require a two way conversation.