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    NOD[^]

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    +1 for NOD32.

    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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      Avast for antivirus. For firewalls I don't like bloat so generally stick with a combination of the windows firewall, IPSEC policies and my router.

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      How is Avast wrt to False Positive? Based on the feedback from my colleagues, it seems Avast is more popular. Their only concern was that User Interface was not so simple. I have no idea of judging that but I can live with that

      cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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        If it were me - Avast[^] for anti-virus, I'd probably just use the built-in Windows Firewall, but if I were to go a step further, I'd probably use the ZoneAlarm Free version[^] - that's what I used to use before I had a hardware solution.

        Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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        Stuart Dootson wrote:

        I'd probably use the ZoneAlarm Free version[

        Will look into it.. Somebody else suggested Online Armor[^] Any Idea about this?

        cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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          If it were me - Avast[^] for anti-virus, I'd probably just use the built-in Windows Firewall, but if I were to go a step further, I'd probably use the ZoneAlarm Free version[^] - that's what I used to use before I had a hardware solution.

          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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          Dalek Dave
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          Zone Alarm is ok, but a bit officious and interfery. I stopped using it a few years ago when it kept prompting for "Purchase the Professional Version".

          ------------------------------------ "I'm going to walk around a field dangling my keys on a bit of string until I hear whistling noises. " Steve Harris 2009

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            Hello CPians, I would be giving my old laptop(Windows XP,32 bit) to my wife. Since, she would only be browsing(facebook,orkut.. :-O ), chatting and listening to songs, I have removed most of my stuff from the laptop. Now I need to install a decent Anitvirus and Personal firewall. Freeware would be a better option but its not a deal breaker. Any sugesstion(especially Frewall)?

            cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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            urbane tiger
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            If all that's happening is as you say then the OS F/W is probably good enough. But if your wife likes to shop, eBay, Amazon, Paypal, pay bills etc then I'd set her up with the Trend Micro Suite - its robust, not as in-your-face or intrusive as the others and more intelligent/intuitive. My experience with their the support has been an eyeopener on 2 occasions. Once I had a tricky problem running multiple mail clients (Outlook & Pegasus), the phone support person was out her depth, but she got a very good person to call me back within 30 mins, he stuck with me for another 30-50 minutes until the problem was fixed - cost $0.00, all part of the service sir. BTW there was nothing wrong with TM s/w - I was making invalid assumptions, it was smarter that I thought smarter than me maybe. I use Eset NOD for malware protection and the On-Line Armour firewall, there's a lot of history there and I long term licences.

            "we shall patiently bear the trials that fate imposes on us" -- Anton Chekhov Uncle Vanya

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              Zone Alarm is ok, but a bit officious and interfery. I stopped using it a few years ago when it kept prompting for "Purchase the Professional Version".

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              Stuart Dootson
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              I stopped using it several years(7?) ago as well, when I got hardware between me and t'Internet.

              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                I stopped using it several years(7?) ago as well, when I got hardware between me and t'Internet.

                Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                Dalek Dave
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                Yeah, it kept prompting for permissions.

                ------------------------------------ "I'm going to walk around a field dangling my keys on a bit of string until I hear whistling noises. " Steve Harris 2009

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                  If all that's happening is as you say then the OS F/W is probably good enough. But if your wife likes to shop, eBay, Amazon, Paypal, pay bills etc then I'd set her up with the Trend Micro Suite - its robust, not as in-your-face or intrusive as the others and more intelligent/intuitive. My experience with their the support has been an eyeopener on 2 occasions. Once I had a tricky problem running multiple mail clients (Outlook & Pegasus), the phone support person was out her depth, but she got a very good person to call me back within 30 mins, he stuck with me for another 30-50 minutes until the problem was fixed - cost $0.00, all part of the service sir. BTW there was nothing wrong with TM s/w - I was making invalid assumptions, it was smarter that I thought smarter than me maybe. I use Eset NOD for malware protection and the On-Line Armour firewall, there's a lot of history there and I long term licences.

                  "we shall patiently bear the trials that fate imposes on us" -- Anton Chekhov Uncle Vanya

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                  She likes to do lot of window shopping in amazon and ebay but never actually buys from it(I hope so). She bookmarks it and I buy it. Anyway still I should assume the worst case scenario, because I may end up using this laptop again

                  cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                    what about firewall options? Should be part of comercial one right?

                    cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                    super wrote:

                    what about firewall options? Should be part of comercial one right?

                    I think so, but not 100% sure. There's a table somewhere on the site that shows what each version provides.

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                      Yeah, it kept prompting for permissions.

                      ------------------------------------ "I'm going to walk around a field dangling my keys on a bit of string until I hear whistling noises. " Steve Harris 2009

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                      super
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                      So "zone alarm" is out of the recommendation list. It should not end up, with my wife in phone with me 24/7 asking what to do. It beats the purpose of giving her a dedicated computer :rolleyes:

                      cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                        tidelgl wrote:

                        http://www.iobit.com/

                        Any personal experience? Looks good on the first impression

                        cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                        easy to use but good enough, and free :laugh:

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                          Stuart Dootson wrote:

                          I'd probably use the ZoneAlarm Free version[

                          Will look into it.. Somebody else suggested Online Armor[^] Any Idea about this?

                          cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                          OA maybe overkill, I have it on four systems, great product but .... . Comodo is also probably overkill, and its not the most stable product - the relationship between the users and company is a bit iffy too, my experience is that you have to be a Comodo fanboy to get any support. Zone Alarm testing of OS changes has been slack in recent times, there were ZA nightmares when SP3 was released. Inevitably everyone blamed MS but it was entirely ZA's problem, they just did not do the testing. MS received almost no progress reports like they did from Symantec, OA, McCafe, Trend Micro etc - those reports are in the public domain somewhere. Two weeks ago I took ZA off a friends 3-4 year old laptop when its license expired - performance shot up remarkably, I've put Avast Free on for Malware protection, A lot of rebadging goes on in the security space. OA rebadge someone elses malware shields, it was going to be NOD but they went with ... maybe Kaspersky. I think the NOD guys rebadge someone elses f/w - not OA, maybe Jetico. And the rebadgers are apt to change their loyalties, which gives the likes of McCafe, Symantec, Trend Micro an edge, at least their stuff is their stuff and not someone elses stuff Outpost has a good reputation, but I've not used it.

                          "we shall patiently bear the trials that fate imposes on us" -- Anton Chekhov Uncle Vanya

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                            How is Avast wrt to False Positive? Based on the feedback from my colleagues, it seems Avast is more popular. Their only concern was that User Interface was not so simple. I have no idea of judging that but I can live with that

                            cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                            Ed Poore
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                            super wrote:

                            User Interface was not so simple

                            It's skinnable. I always run the OSX look-a-like, makes it much simpler.


                            I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                              Hello CPians, I would be giving my old laptop(Windows XP,32 bit) to my wife. Since, she would only be browsing(facebook,orkut.. :-O ), chatting and listening to songs, I have removed most of my stuff from the laptop. Now I need to install a decent Anitvirus and Personal firewall. Freeware would be a better option but its not a deal breaker. Any sugesstion(especially Frewall)?

                              cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

                              modified on Monday, October 5, 2009 5:24 AM

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                              Get a hardware firewall (not one of the consumer routers, but a decent firewall device. Then ALL of the machines on your LAN are protected. I would recommend a Zywall for this. As for A/V, check out Microsoft's recently released product. It's unobtrusive, and absolutely FREE. You have to be running a legal copy of Windows (XP-32 or any 32 or 64-bit version of Vista/Weven) to use it.

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                                Get a hardware firewall (not one of the consumer routers, but a decent firewall device. Then ALL of the machines on your LAN are protected. I would recommend a Zywall for this. As for A/V, check out Microsoft's recently released product. It's unobtrusive, and absolutely FREE. You have to be running a legal copy of Windows (XP-32 or any 32 or 64-bit version of Vista/Weven) to use it.

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                You have to be running a legal copy of Windows (XP-32 or any 32 or 64-bit version of Vista/Weven) to use it.

                                I have a Genunine Windows, so no problem with that. The only concern is that jury is still out there wrt to Windows recent released product. Just waiting for more reviews and personal experience

                                cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  You have to be running a legal copy of Windows (XP-32 or any 32 or 64-bit version of Vista/Weven) to use it.

                                  I have a Genunine Windows, so no problem with that. The only concern is that jury is still out there wrt to Windows recent released product. Just waiting for more reviews and personal experience

                                  cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                  I installed Weven/64 and MSE on my laptop. My wife uses it when she travels so I figured it should have a little more protection. It was a painless install and hasn't interfered with the use of the system.

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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    You have to be running a legal copy of Windows (XP-32 or any 32 or 64-bit version of Vista/Weven) to use it.

                                    I have a Genunine Windows, so no problem with that. The only concern is that jury is still out there wrt to Windows recent released product. Just waiting for more reviews and personal experience

                                    cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    Hi, I personally use ESET NOD32, but if you are wanting something for free, then I'll not hesitate to recommend MSE to you. You may want to read this post of mine[^]

                                    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                      Hello CPians, I would be giving my old laptop(Windows XP,32 bit) to my wife. Since, she would only be browsing(facebook,orkut.. :-O ), chatting and listening to songs, I have removed most of my stuff from the laptop. Now I need to install a decent Anitvirus and Personal firewall. Freeware would be a better option but its not a deal breaker. Any sugesstion(especially Frewall)?

                                      cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

                                      modified on Monday, October 5, 2009 5:24 AM

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                                      First you need from a good antispyware/adware application. The AV and the Firewall are on the second place. I believe you wife is reasonable enough to not start and download EXE files. So, good antispyware and Windows Firewall or/and your rooter should be enough protection. The AV programs, even the decent ones, gives you a fake sense of security.

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                                        +1 for NOD32.

                                        It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                        N a v a n e e t h
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                                        +1 for that present :)

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                                          +1 for that present :)

                                          Navaneeth How to use google | Ask smart questions

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                                          Ugh. I totally forgot about that and was thinking what were you talking about for a full minute. :)

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