Fall of the Republic
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Fall of the Republic is a true documentary covering the fall of the republic. It is not a conspiracy film, I repeat, it is not a conspiracy film. Check out these two new trailers, the very first one is in my sig. This is truly hard-hitting. To get the widest possible audience, it will be available on youtube so this is not an advertisement. Two[^] Three[^][This one is the best]
modified on Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:04 PM
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Fall of the Republic is a true documentary covering the fall of the republic. It is not a conspiracy film, I repeat, it is not a conspiracy film. Check out these two new trailers, the very first one is in my sig. This is truly hard-hitting. To get the widest possible audience, it will be available on youtube so this is not an advertisement. Two[^] Three[^][This one is the best]
modified on Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:04 PM
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Three[^][This one is the best]
I think you got the wrong link. This one was all conspiracy theories about mind control. Sorry, you should get your links right, or people may think you're a nut job.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Three[^][This one is the best]
I think you got the wrong link. This one was all conspiracy theories about mind control. Sorry, you should get your links right, or people may think you're a nut job.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
his one was all conspiracy theories about mind control.
Such as? There were no conspiracy theories presented. Its all commonsense logic.
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Fall of the Republic is a true documentary covering the fall of the republic. It is not a conspiracy film, I repeat, it is not a conspiracy film. Check out these two new trailers, the very first one is in my sig. This is truly hard-hitting. To get the widest possible audience, it will be available on youtube so this is not an advertisement. Two[^] Three[^][This one is the best]
modified on Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:04 PM
This is not a forum post. I repeat, this is not a forum post. Funny how saying that doesn't make it true.
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This is not a forum post. I repeat, this is not a forum post. Funny how saying that doesn't make it true.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Funny how saying that doesn't make it true.
You are right, it does not make it true. Truth is absolute. I was simply stating a fact.
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Christian Graus wrote:
his one was all conspiracy theories about mind control.
Such as? There were no conspiracy theories presented. Its all commonsense logic.
You can't tell the difference any more, can you ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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You can't tell the difference any more, can you ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You're implying that there was a time when he could...
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You're implying that there was a time when he could...
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Oh - good point.
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You can't tell the difference any more, can you ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
You can't tell the difference any more, can you ?
Certainly, for instance space aliens invading the earth disguised as humans is one. Big Foot or Nessy is another. The Fall of the Republic is not that type of film. It is a factual documentary about recent times, how we got here, and where we are headed. It features accomplished scholars, respectable doctorates, MDs, top economists, professionals, various intelligent people, well-known famous individuals, and mainstream media coverage. Its going to be worth watching.
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Christian Graus wrote:
You can't tell the difference any more, can you ?
Certainly, for instance space aliens invading the earth disguised as humans is one. Big Foot or Nessy is another. The Fall of the Republic is not that type of film. It is a factual documentary about recent times, how we got here, and where we are headed. It features accomplished scholars, respectable doctorates, MDs, top economists, professionals, various intelligent people, well-known famous individuals, and mainstream media coverage. Its going to be worth watching.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Certainly, for instance space aliens invading the earth disguised as humans is one. Big Foot or Nessy is another.
The big trouble with conspiracy theorists is your inability to understand nuance. Yes, television is bad for people. Yes, it's used to deliver propaganda and advertising. That doesn't prove a conspiracy. It works the same as the internet. You are a nut job, and so you watch you tube videos that enforce your bizarre ideas. People choose their TV channels in the same way, by watching what re-enforces their bias. The Internet is probably worse, because there's more craziness, less control, and people are more accustomed to jumping from one thing to another and not every watching one channel loyally.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a factual documentary about recent times, how we got here, and where we are headed.
This is the other problem. Because things are presented as fact, you assume they are. This is sometimes true. Assuming they are all facts, you then assume that the presumptions these people bolt onto these facts, are equally proven, when it's not true. The best way to tell a lie, is to attach it to some truth and then parade the true part as proof that everything you said was accurate.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It features accomplished scholars, respectable doctorates, MDs, top economists, professionals, various intelligent people, well-known famous individuals, and mainstream media coverage.
Yes, there are nut jobs in every walk of life, not just amongst the unemployable.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Certainly, for instance space aliens invading the earth disguised as humans is one. Big Foot or Nessy is another.
The big trouble with conspiracy theorists is your inability to understand nuance. Yes, television is bad for people. Yes, it's used to deliver propaganda and advertising. That doesn't prove a conspiracy. It works the same as the internet. You are a nut job, and so you watch you tube videos that enforce your bizarre ideas. People choose their TV channels in the same way, by watching what re-enforces their bias. The Internet is probably worse, because there's more craziness, less control, and people are more accustomed to jumping from one thing to another and not every watching one channel loyally.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a factual documentary about recent times, how we got here, and where we are headed.
This is the other problem. Because things are presented as fact, you assume they are. This is sometimes true. Assuming they are all facts, you then assume that the presumptions these people bolt onto these facts, are equally proven, when it's not true. The best way to tell a lie, is to attach it to some truth and then parade the true part as proof that everything you said was accurate.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It features accomplished scholars, respectable doctorates, MDs, top economists, professionals, various intelligent people, well-known famous individuals, and mainstream media coverage.
Yes, there are nut jobs in every walk of life, not just amongst the unemployable.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The big trouble with conspiracy theorists is your
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I only take what is documented fact.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, television is bad for people. Yes, it's used to deliver propaganda and advertising.
Yes, indeed it is.
Christian Graus wrote:
It works the same as the internet.
Not quite, the internet is more like a library. On the internet, people have absolute control over what information that they pull up.
Christian Graus wrote:
Because things are presented as fact, you assume they are.
Nonsense. This is simply an outlandishly inadequate claim. I don't assume facts, I actually look at the source and compare my findings with the information presented. The information presented is fully capable of withstanding an thorough investigation.
Christian Graus wrote:
you then assume that the presumptions these people bolt onto these facts
I am fully capable of identifying and understanding extrapolations, as well as forming my own.
Christian Graus wrote:
The best way to tell a lie, is to attach it to some truth and then parade the true part as proof that everything you said was accurate.
This is exactly what climate change is. I suggest you reexamine Fall of the Republic because you are terribly mistaken in judgment of the documentary.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Funny how saying that doesn't make it true.
You are right, it does not make it true. Truth is absolute. I was simply stating a fact.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Truth is absolute
Ah thank you, I needed a good laugh.
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Fall of the Republic is a true documentary covering the fall of the republic. It is not a conspiracy film, I repeat, it is not a conspiracy film. Check out these two new trailers, the very first one is in my sig. This is truly hard-hitting. To get the widest possible audience, it will be available on youtube so this is not an advertisement. Two[^] Three[^][This one is the best]
modified on Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:04 PM
While I don't agree with, well just about everything you say I thought I'd be nice and throw you a bone. Your first and common mistake is that you dragged into the conspiracy theory argument, wether you or someone else starts it is irrelevant once that argument starts you've lost. Not because you're always wrong but because your arguements are too big you try to bludgeon your argument through, you need to select smaller factual points that you can back up and argue with data rather than just trying to drop massive theories on people. If they are interested in what you say then and only then will they gravitate to the sort of stuff that you are proposing they watch. Secondly programmers by nature are more mainstream and conservative. They are succesful functioning members of society. Your blunt forceful arguments are targetted more towards a dissafected youth and therefore unlikely to work on the target audience. Thirdly you're peddaling the wrong conspiracies for this site. If you were targetting Iran you would be much more successful getting people to agree with you. I'd suggest you read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine and have a look at http://www.medialens.org/[^] Both of which are based on the propostions that when given a certain set of circumstances such and such happens. It's not a conspiracy, its not a plan its just the outcome of a given set of political and economic decisions.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Funny how saying that doesn't make it true.
You are right, it does not make it true. Truth is absolute. I was simply stating a fact.
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While I don't agree with, well just about everything you say I thought I'd be nice and throw you a bone. Your first and common mistake is that you dragged into the conspiracy theory argument, wether you or someone else starts it is irrelevant once that argument starts you've lost. Not because you're always wrong but because your arguements are too big you try to bludgeon your argument through, you need to select smaller factual points that you can back up and argue with data rather than just trying to drop massive theories on people. If they are interested in what you say then and only then will they gravitate to the sort of stuff that you are proposing they watch. Secondly programmers by nature are more mainstream and conservative. They are succesful functioning members of society. Your blunt forceful arguments are targetted more towards a dissafected youth and therefore unlikely to work on the target audience. Thirdly you're peddaling the wrong conspiracies for this site. If you were targetting Iran you would be much more successful getting people to agree with you. I'd suggest you read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine and have a look at http://www.medialens.org/[^] Both of which are based on the propostions that when given a certain set of circumstances such and such happens. It's not a conspiracy, its not a plan its just the outcome of a given set of political and economic decisions.
pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]
pseudonym67 wrote:
programmers by nature are more mainstream and conservative. They are succesful functioning members of society
:laugh: :laugh: Cute. Highly inacurate, but cute. We are barely socially functional; that's why we're here and not in the real world. ;P
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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While I don't agree with, well just about everything you say I thought I'd be nice and throw you a bone. Your first and common mistake is that you dragged into the conspiracy theory argument, wether you or someone else starts it is irrelevant once that argument starts you've lost. Not because you're always wrong but because your arguements are too big you try to bludgeon your argument through, you need to select smaller factual points that you can back up and argue with data rather than just trying to drop massive theories on people. If they are interested in what you say then and only then will they gravitate to the sort of stuff that you are proposing they watch. Secondly programmers by nature are more mainstream and conservative. They are succesful functioning members of society. Your blunt forceful arguments are targetted more towards a dissafected youth and therefore unlikely to work on the target audience. Thirdly you're peddaling the wrong conspiracies for this site. If you were targetting Iran you would be much more successful getting people to agree with you. I'd suggest you read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine and have a look at http://www.medialens.org/[^] Both of which are based on the propostions that when given a certain set of circumstances such and such happens. It's not a conspiracy, its not a plan its just the outcome of a given set of political and economic decisions.
pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Personal Music Player[^]
pseudonym67 wrote:
Secondly programmers by nature are more mainstream and conservative.
Not in the 60s when we were innovators. :) Alas, 'tis now the Lego programming generation. :sigh:
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Christian Graus wrote:
The big trouble with conspiracy theorists is your
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I only take what is documented fact.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, television is bad for people. Yes, it's used to deliver propaganda and advertising.
Yes, indeed it is.
Christian Graus wrote:
It works the same as the internet.
Not quite, the internet is more like a library. On the internet, people have absolute control over what information that they pull up.
Christian Graus wrote:
Because things are presented as fact, you assume they are.
Nonsense. This is simply an outlandishly inadequate claim. I don't assume facts, I actually look at the source and compare my findings with the information presented. The information presented is fully capable of withstanding an thorough investigation.
Christian Graus wrote:
you then assume that the presumptions these people bolt onto these facts
I am fully capable of identifying and understanding extrapolations, as well as forming my own.
Christian Graus wrote:
The best way to tell a lie, is to attach it to some truth and then parade the true part as proof that everything you said was accurate.
This is exactly what climate change is. I suggest you reexamine Fall of the Republic because you are terribly mistaken in judgment of the documentary.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I only take what is documented fact.
Not quite, you take YouTube videos as fact.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
On the internet, people have absolute control over what information that they pull up.
What utter rubbish! Have you ever used a search engine?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I don't assume facts, I actually look at the source and compare my findings with the information presented.
No, you still look at YouTube videos... Sorry, lost the will to go on ...
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pseudonym67 wrote:
programmers by nature are more mainstream and conservative. They are succesful functioning members of society
:laugh: :laugh: Cute. Highly inacurate, but cute. We are barely socially functional; that's why we're here and not in the real world. ;P
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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pseudonym67 wrote:
programmers by nature are more mainstream and conservative. They are succesful functioning members of society
:laugh: :laugh: Cute. Highly inacurate, but cute. We are barely socially functional; that's why we're here and not in the real world. ;P
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
We are barely socially functional; that's why we're here and not in the real world.
Speak for yourself. I'm here 'cos I'm retired, at home, and it's lunchtime. And I have done more than enough functioning socially for this life.
Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
We are barely socially functional; that's why we're here and not in the real world.
Speak for yourself. I'm here 'cos I'm retired, at home, and it's lunchtime. And I have done more than enough functioning socially for this life.
Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.
Bob Emmett wrote:
I'm retired, at home, and it's lunchtime.
Sorry, I'm confused surely
retired+lunchtime = pub? When I was unemployed resting, lunch often took four or five hours.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.