I HATE Nvidia
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I have used ati cards since the mach64. And with the exception of a few driver releases for the rage128 and the original Radeon I have never had a problem. This comment applies to windows, as Linux driver support is pretty terrible.
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Trollslayer wrote:
Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.
How about your experience with their drivers on 64 bit operating systems? Stable too? I mean - I only have issues with Nvidia drivers only 64 bit operating systems. If ATI works good on 64 bit too, then I'll be sure that my next card is an ATI one.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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How about your experience with their drivers on 64 bit operating systems? Stable too? I mean - I only have issues with Nvidia drivers only 64 bit operating systems. If ATI works good on 64 bit too, then I'll be sure that my next card is an ATI one.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
I have used two different cards on XP 64 And have never encountered an issue. I haven't tried the 64 bit flavor of 7 yet.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Unpaid overtime is slavery.
Trollslayer wrote:
Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.
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I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
It's odd that you're not able to(?) roll back the drivers. Have you tried System Restore?
Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)
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I have used two different cards on XP 64 And have never encountered an issue. I haven't tried the 64 bit flavor of 7 yet.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Unpaid overtime is slavery.
Trollslayer wrote:
Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.
Yes, but the same NVidia card worked like a magic on this configuration while I ran Vista X64. OK, I'll wait for a while to see if I'll get a fix from NVidia. I'll keep ATI on mind while purchasing the next card. Thanks.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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It's odd that you're not able to(?) roll back the drivers. Have you tried System Restore?
Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)
It isn't that I cannot rollback to the old driver. It is just that rolling back won't resolve the issue. Like I said, it could be a time bomb bug, that hadn't been discovered yet. Or it could have to do something to do with something else I've done to this machine recently. Only NVidia can fix.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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Hi David, To be brutally honest, I have no idea if this was WHQL certified. But I was notified of this update by Windows update itself, so I assumed that it must have been certified by MS. I'll trust this updater utility no more! Thanks and I'll have it checked. Regards, Rajesh.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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My Dell laptop also has nVidia, and after I installed updated graphics drivers. I am having lot of trouble. main problem is sluggish Aero performance in vista ultimate (before that it was crashing now and then). This will go away if i open any graphics oriented apps (Games :-D ). looks like the graphics card goes to sleep mode (power saving) for some reason. I have done lots of efforts to make it stay awake, i.e. high performance settings, disable power saving mode etc... but no luck. and even funny is my gaming score is 4.2 and desktop graphics score is 3.4 (AND that makes even scrolling sluggish in web browser) one more thing... I have 'Quadro NVS' which is certified for many windows apps inlcuding 'Visual Studio'. :laugh: , and It is sluggish on all certified apps. I am happy with my ATI in desktop.
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Hmmm. I wasn't able to get the Windows Update driver to install when I installed W7-64 on my SLIed 260 system. I installed the latest from nVidia directly and have had no problems.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
I actually tried that, immediately after this problem started. The drivers that MS Update got for me and the drivers that I downloaded from nvidia seem to be identical and both are the same buggy stuff (100+ MB of nonsense).
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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Wow, you may have just firmed my opinion of what goes in my next build! I've been out of touch with hardware, particularly graphics cards, lately.
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Hmm... I'm not claiming to have profound knowledge of graphics cards. However, in my opinion, Nvidia drivers are crap. That's all I know about graphics cards. One more thing that I forgot to mention - Nvidia drivers are crap. :)
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
Try running NVidia on linux. I can't imagine writing drivers to work with Windows to be easy with there constant changing, etc.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Try running NVidia on linux. I can't imagine writing drivers to work with Windows to be easy with there constant changing, etc.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
I'm not sure what you mean. Last time I checked for the drivers (I had installed ubuntu), they were not even available for Linux. That said, I'll be primarily using Windows, so I may compromise if it doesn't work great on Linux. What's been your experience with Nvidia on Windows? Would you suggest it?
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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I'm not sure what you mean. Last time I checked for the drivers (I had installed ubuntu), they were not even available for Linux. That said, I'll be primarily using Windows, so I may compromise if it doesn't work great on Linux. What's been your experience with Nvidia on Windows? Would you suggest it?
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
I have the 8700mGT on Vista Ultimate and my laptop has not crashed in the year and a half I have owned it. Visual Studio hasn't crashed either. The only problem I have had is that I used to have to restart because of the Wifi refusing to connect but that was probably resolved in a patch a while ago. My suggestion to try linux was just Tongue in cheek (and I thought nVidia was the preferred card for linux) because I have seen a lot of the sample "codez" provided by Microsoft on MSDN that not only aren't complete, but are not even accurate or for obsolete versions. (Common examples, the old Windows GINA C++, Anything DirectX, GPS for C++) And if you can't get a good sample or documentation from the manufacture (MS) than any code you write is going to be arduous. Also, I have to take some pleasure in the unfortunate quality of software these days.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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Hi Harold, Is that a 32 bit or a 64 bit OS? If the 32 bit OS has less issues, then I'll probably switch to 32 bit OS and convince myself that the world is not yet 64 bit and may be run a 64 bit OS on a VM only to test.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
It varies. My two home systems had ATI graphics and never had a single problems. I upgraded one to an NVidia 9600GT, which is a very nice card, but it blue screens about once a month. It used to blue screen twice a month, so I consider that a leap forward. I replaced one of my home systems with a work surplus system. Every now and then the embedded ATI graphics whigs out. A full shut down solves the problem. Interestingly, my brother has an earlier version of the same computer and tried to put an ATI card in it and it would blue screen every time on shut down, but the low end NVidia card has no problems. I did make the mistake of buying a Neo4 motherboard which has a bug in the DMA/SATA controller software which will corrupt data on certain hard drives (one of which I unfortunately had); I will never again buy a computer with an NVidia chipset.
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Install a program that uses your GPU to crunch data on so that it never goes into idle mode.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
Dan Neely wrote:
Install a program
Oh... I read 'Write a program' :-D There is a options for 'Power Saving' mode. If I uncheck it, then I runs smooooth on battery, but not when plugged in, also my battery only last for 1 hr after that. so looks like it is not applying settings when plugged in. So what I am doing is open apple.com and open one HD trailer, then play it for few sec. and then I can use the laptop, again after a while, if its sluggish. run the trailer again for few sec... besides this is the only down-side, this is what I have to do after buying a $1500.00 Dell Latitude E6500. :thumbsdown:
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phannon86 wrote:
Hijacking hopingToCode's idea!
It wasn't my idea... someone else gave it to me and it's not going to great at the moment. Lots of Jewish festivals and there fore lots of eating and not much time for gym!... oh well all over now and can start again!
Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [30/Sep/2009] 103.7kg Target weight : 80kg Only 23.7 to go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!
Yea I remember someone else suggesting it to you, but I couldn't remember who, but I recalled you doing it, so thought I'd jump on the (albeit small) bandwagon! :) Good luck to you!
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Hijacking hopingToCode's idea! Current Weight: 16st. 2lbs Target Weight : 14st. Weight lost : 0lbs (just started!)
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I have the 8700mGT on Vista Ultimate and my laptop has not crashed in the year and a half I have owned it. Visual Studio hasn't crashed either. The only problem I have had is that I used to have to restart because of the Wifi refusing to connect but that was probably resolved in a patch a while ago. My suggestion to try linux was just Tongue in cheek (and I thought nVidia was the preferred card for linux) because I have seen a lot of the sample "codez" provided by Microsoft on MSDN that not only aren't complete, but are not even accurate or for obsolete versions. (Common examples, the old Windows GINA C++, Anything DirectX, GPS for C++) And if you can't get a good sample or documentation from the manufacture (MS) than any code you write is going to be arduous. Also, I have to take some pleasure in the unfortunate quality of software these days.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
IIRC nVidia doesn't have GPL drivers for linux. Intel and ATI have been doing them for several years. In Intel's case the only exception has been with the occasional licensed GPU. The GMA500 (Z5xx atoms) being the most recent example. It's a powerVR part and only buggy binary linux drivers are available. With it being the embedded GPU in the forthcoming 32nm atoms things are going to get ugly in penguinland if a better driver isn't made available. In Intel's shoes I'd write a GPL version in house to make sure it was available at release.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
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I really do HATE them to the core. They were the ones that wrote the driver which caused VS 2008 to crash when a find dialog is opened. Or when the add member wizard is opened. Or when any dialog is opened at all. They were responsible for nearly 30%[^] of Vista crashes. Not that I'm supporting Vista, but such godawful drivers contributed even more to the bad reputation of Vista. The user would only know "Vista crashed", while the real culprit is Nvidia. I work for an animation company and that's got a whole lot of thing to do with graphics, and I know how much crap Nvidia rolls out. I don't know about other GPU vendors. May be they're equally terrible. But Nvidia writes crap software and they do it every now and then. And their crap affects a lot of other applications and sometimes can bring the OS down on its knees. Such is not a pretty sight. The repugnant era of Vista is over and I'm a happy man on 7. Well, I *was*. Until the Nvidia updates were done. The desktop window manager service will automatically be stopped every now and then. I must open "services.msc" and start it. This happens like 12 times in a minute. Rolling back to the old driver won't solve the issue (probably a time bomb bug that was never discovered until now). Searching the web reveals that I'm not alone. Now, I'll have to wait for them to resolve it. I've now turned off Aero (which won't "work properly" without the DWM), but I might as well trash this GPU if I can't even have some pleasing looks turned on. Don't Nvidia test their software? EVER?! Especially given that they are writing something crucial? I'm not buying another Nvidia.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
Now you mention it, I'm posting this from an NVidia chipset laptop, and when it had Vista it was almost unusable. My Acer under Vista ran perfectly.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I have all nVidia cards at home (even my laptop), and three of those boxes are running Weven64. (Another is running FreeBSD, and another is running XP32.)
Evertything else is fine, but I'm not sure about the W7 64 bit. That is the only place I have problem. May be you should try to update the driver on it? ;)
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
I'm set for auto updates, and nothing has gone wrong yet.
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I have the 8700mGT on Vista Ultimate and my laptop has not crashed in the year and a half I have owned it. Visual Studio hasn't crashed either. The only problem I have had is that I used to have to restart because of the Wifi refusing to connect but that was probably resolved in a patch a while ago. My suggestion to try linux was just Tongue in cheek (and I thought nVidia was the preferred card for linux) because I have seen a lot of the sample "codez" provided by Microsoft on MSDN that not only aren't complete, but are not even accurate or for obsolete versions. (Common examples, the old Windows GINA C++, Anything DirectX, GPS for C++) And if you can't get a good sample or documentation from the manufacture (MS) than any code you write is going to be arduous. Also, I have to take some pleasure in the unfortunate quality of software these days.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I have the 8700mGT on Vista Ultimate and my laptop has not crashed in the year and a half I have owned it. Visual Studio hasn't crashed either.
That's a 64 bit OS? I've never had any problem with 32 bit operating systems. It's the 64 bit ones that keep crumbling with Nvidia updates.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
